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Jun 1, 2020 14:55:18   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
So what was it?


Don't be surprised if Georgie is living it up in a pent-house somewhere! This whole thing could have been staged? They have proven that the perpetrator and George worked quite often together at some strip club!

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Jun 1, 2020 14:58:40   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
frogdog wrote:
No matter the knowledge of the failing health of the suspect, the actions, and later inaction, to remove his knee from the suspects neck and throat area, will be of most concern for any criminal indictment of the officer. Cause of death will be a defense matter for trial.


I beg to differ, the hold did not cause death. The officer's knee was not even close to Floyd's throat. The hold was a taught procedure at the police academy. So he employed a city sanctioned/approved method to restrain an individual who could, according to his preacher, carry up to 30 folding chairs at one time... weighing up to 11 pounds each. A behemoth of a man who eyewitness say was resisting arrest.

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Jun 1, 2020 15:07:11   #
DonaldR Loc: Florida
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
He had some heart issues and other medical problems that the actions of the police officer caused to intensify causing death.

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Then why hasn't that been made public before?

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Jun 1, 2020 15:07:37   #
DASHY
 
Pennylynn wrote:
He completed the transaction and departed the store. Read the first line of the complaint narrative; https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6933328-27-CR-20-12646-Complaint.html#document/p2


The follow-up to the alleged complaint of a $20 purchase reveals how white cops treat black suspects. Officer Lane did not tell Mr. Floyd why he was pulling him out of the car. The white officer handcuffed Mr. Floyd without explaining why he was doing it. The white cop never asked Mr. Floyd if he had been in Cup Foods or if he had made a purchase.
When Chauvin arrived at the scene he did not discuss the alleged purchase at Cup Foods. It is not mentioned anywhere in the report that at any time did any of the white cops make any attempt whatsoever to help the defeated, handcuffed black man lying on the ground and begging for his life. Chauvin completed the arrest with a gladiator pose showing off his success by holding his knee on the neck of a dead man for several seconds. Black Lives Matter. No wonder people are pissed off and burning cop cars.

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Jun 1, 2020 15:10:06   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Yes, that is factual, what is not accurate in your statement; "the actions of the police officer caused to intensify causing death." What the preliminary report says; "The autopsy revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation. Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease. The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.

The key phase is likely contributed, not that any action taken by law enforcement was the direct cause of Floyd's death. Let's put this in other terms... hypothetical only...you make a contribution to your hospital to build a new wing...does that mean you had it built? If one single individual made a contribution, to include a single penny...it is impossible for you to have built the wing. Now, back to Floyd...how big of a part did his coronary artery disease coupled with his hypertension and any chemicals (prescription or illegal substances) play in his death? Next, could the officers reasonably have known of his failing health?
Yes, that is factual, what is not accurate in you... (show quote)


And the fact that he was caught, yet again!!! Could cause the heart to palpitate!

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Jun 1, 2020 15:26:51   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
He had some heart issues and other medical problems that the actions of the police officer caused to intensify causing death.


My guess is that they induced a stroke from the traumatic angle of the neck twisting and possibly tearing the vertebral artery. He might have also had a carotid blockage which was released or caused by the torsion/twisting of the neck.

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Jun 1, 2020 15:39:53   #
frogdog
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I beg to differ, the hold did not cause death. The officer's knee was not even close to Floyd's throat. The hold was a taught procedure at the police academy. So he employed a city sanctioned/approved method to restrain an individual who could, according to his preacher, carry up to 30 folding chairs at one time... weighing up to 11 pounds each. A behemoth of a man who eyewitness say was resisting arrest.


People that care about law enforcement in this country need to stop saying that using the knee on the throat of a suspect is a "taught procedure an the police academy." Keeping the knee on the neck and throat area of an unconscious and possibly dead suspect was NEVER a trained procedure at any police academy, ever.

Law enforcement does not need the public to believe that they are trained to use that type of restraint on a downed suspect. Those beliefs only enrage and garner further mistrust for officers trying to do a job with too many regulations already in place.

Believe me when I tell you that it is much easier to kick the living snot out of someone and keep them down than it is to restrain and hand cuff them without hurting them. That is why it takes more than one regular officer to handcuff a resisting suspect of almost any size, even a struggling juvenile.

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Jun 1, 2020 15:57:42   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Autopsy is in...the death correspondent rules homicide. Apparently Floyd's carotid artery ran up his shoulder rather than in the throat. ""Sustained pressure on the right side of Mr Floyd's carotid artery impeded blood flow to the brain, and weight on his back impeded his ability to breathe." Looks like he had no underlying conditions or toxins in his body. https://www.the-sun.com/news/917041/george-floyd-death-autopsy-results-independent/


I was wrong.

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Jun 1, 2020 16:00:46   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
frogdog wrote:
No matter the knowledge of the failing health of the suspect, the actions, and later inaction, to remove his knee from the suspects neck and throat area, will be of most concern for any criminal indictment of the officer. Cause of death will be a defense matter for trial.


Cities on fire and riots across the nation may play a part in any jury trial also. Just saying the public gets a vote with the jury. I believe jury nullification is about to come back in style. Most judges don't advise juries of that any longer. Some have even arrested private citizens on a public sidewalk for handing out leaflets and telling people about it. Many judges have been manipulating the system for a long time, like Sullivan with Flynn.

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Jun 1, 2020 16:05:23   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Autopsy is in...the death correspondent rules homicide. Apparently Floyd's carotid artery ran up his shoulder rather than in the throat. ""Sustained pressure on the right side of Mr Floyd's carotid artery impeded blood flow to the brain, and weight on his back impeded his ability to breathe." Looks like he had no underlying conditions or toxins in his body. https://www.the-sun.com/news/917041/george-floyd-death-autopsy-results-independent/


I was wrong.


This is an isolated incident and these types of incidents are on the decline; they are being fixed. It's clear and documented.

Covid couldn't get Trump so this is the new dance of the Trump haters. The media can claim it's all because of Trump. And when this passes, and it will, they will come up with another "something."

http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-185236-1.html#3299034

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Jun 1, 2020 16:07:07   #
frogdog
 
DASHY wrote:
The follow-up to the alleged complaint of a $20 purchase reveals how white cops treat black suspects. Officer Lane did not tell Mr. Floyd why he was pulling him out of the car. The white officer handcuffed Mr. Floyd without explaining why he was doing it. The white cop never asked Mr. Floyd if he had been in Cup Foods or if he had made a purchase.
When Chauvin arrived at the scene he did not discuss the alleged purchase at Cup Foods. It is not mentioned anywhere in the report that at any time did any of the white cops make any attempt whatsoever to help the defeated, handcuffed black man lying on the ground and begging for his life. Chauvin completed the arrest with a gladiator pose showing off his success by holding his knee on the neck of a dead man for several seconds. Black Lives Matter. No wonder people are pissed off and burning cop cars.
The follow-up to the alleged complaint of a $20 pu... (show quote)


Try doing the job of a good police officer for one year and see if you explain every move you make to someone you believe may have committed a crime. Chauvin completely screw up. For whatever reason, he can not justify what has been seen on television. ALL live matter, so you need to go tell that to the black people that routinely murder their own black people, in mass every day, without fail.

Protesting Floyd's death is a constitutional right and if it pisses you off, fine. Nothing gives anyone the right to loot and riot. There will be a lot of innocent people of every race hurt by the actions of looters and rioters.

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Jun 1, 2020 16:20:34   #
frogdog
 
Peewee wrote:
Cities on fire and riots across the nation may play a part in any jury trial also. Just saying the public gets a vote with the jury. I believe jury nullification is about to come back in style. Most judges don't advise juries of that any longer. Some have even arrested private citizens on a public sidewalk for handing out leaflets and telling people about it. Many judges have been manipulating the system for a long time, like Sullivan with Flynn.


Jury decisions are SUPOSED to be only decided on the facts presented. (Like politicians are supposed to fulfill their campaign promises) Cities on fire and riots are not supposed to be a factor in the jury's decision. Yeah.

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Jun 1, 2020 16:49:31   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Autopsy is in...the death correspondent rules homicide. Apparently Floyd's carotid artery ran up his shoulder rather than in the throat. ""Sustained pressure on the right side of Mr Floyd's carotid artery impeded blood flow to the brain, and weight on his back impeded his ability to breathe." Looks like he had no underlying conditions or toxins in his body. https://www.the-sun.com/news/917041/george-floyd-death-autopsy-results-independent/


I was wrong.


Maybe Not...from The-Sun The independent autopsy, conducted by Michael Baden and Allecia Wilson, was determined to be "homicide."...

And Michael Baden was also involved in Jeffry Epsteins Autopsy
https://www.reportdoor.com/george-floyds-family-to-release-their-own-autopsy-results-on-monday/

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Jun 1, 2020 18:48:34   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Crayons wrote:
Maybe Not...from The-Sun The independent autopsy, conducted by Michael Baden and Allecia Wilson, was determined to be "homicide."...

And Michael Baden was also involved in Jeffry Epsteins Autopsy
https://www.reportdoor.com/george-floyds-family-to-release-their-own-autopsy-results-on-monday/


It is as if the ME and Baden examined two different bodies. Now I have bigger questions....

Yes, Baden examined Grainer as well as Brown...He also gave testimony in the OJ trial and the JFK hearings. He said Grainer was chocked to death--homicide. Brown did not have drugs in his body--homicide. OJ could not have killed his wife and her friend. And there had to be several gunmen on the grassy knoll...And of course, Epstein was murdered.... On his tv program, more than 90 percent of his cases were homicide. He has been around for a long time...I think he is in his late 80s.

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Jun 1, 2020 18:49:40   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Pennylynn wrote:
It is as if the ME and Baden examined two different bodies. Now I have bigger questions....

Yes, Baden examined Grainer as well as Brown...He also gave testimony in the OJ trial and the JFK hearings. He said Grainer was chocked to death--homicide. Brown did not have drugs in his body--homicide. OJ could not have killed his wife and her friend. And there had to be several gunmen on the grassy knoll...And of course, Epstein was murdered.... On his tv program, more than 90 percent of his cases were homicide. He has been around for a long time...I think he is in his late 80s.
It is as if the ME and Baden examined two differen... (show quote)


Another paid liar!

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