MR Mister Loc: Washington DC

Claims that CV-19 was engineered by the Chinese. Not good.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bXWGxhd7ic&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3fk8cz77NGn4unIuUYfGnJBJHYKuerDK2L__1oO3kNiMD65bI3gBnFbQk

kemmer

The virus came from the live animal market in Wuhan.

Patriot1

I think it came from a military biological laboratory.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Not the beginning of the story. It had to get there somehow. Many possibilities exist.

kemmer

Most theorize it came from bats sold for food.

kemmer

Already discounted.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Inter-species, trans-species mutation of a virus. You don't know that for sure because that answer is still speculative.

kemmer

Most scientists say it’s not lab created.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Most scientist once said the earth was the center of the universe

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

At one point, I did believe it came from the wet markets, I do not believe it any longer. I have read everything I can find and even some Aisian blogs. They seem to agree that China's patient zero was a lab worker who has since "disappeared."

A memo from the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology is seen as a tacit admission that some kind of incident may have occurred at the Wuhan lab. The ministry issued a directive mandating more stringent handling of viruses and bioagents by all labs and research institutes. The document alluded to the slack oversight and management rampant at some facilities, and stressed that protection and decontamination must be beefed up now that more labs across the nation are intensifying their efforts to develop medicines to treat it and a vaccine to prevent it. https://asiatimes.com/2020/02/coronavirus-lab-leakage-rumors-spreading

Another Asian source explains, after the 2003 SARS epidemic, the government of China initiated a plan to construct a national high-level biosafety laboratory system to prepare for and respond to future infectious disease outbreaks.

This led to the establishment of the Biosafety Level 4 laboratory -- the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory (Level 4). The move was part of a plan to build between five and seven biosafety level-4 (BSL-4) labs across the Chinese mainland by 2025.

Laboratories are classified into biocontainment levels 1 to 4, depending on the pathogenicity of microbes investigated. Biosafety Level 4 (BSL-4) laboratories investigate the most dangerous pathogens and have maximum biocontainment levels.

Over the last two decades, numerous infectious diseases, including Ebola, Marburg Hemorrhagic Fever, Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever, Lassa Fever, SARS, Avian Influenza A (H5N1), Rift Valley Fever, and Nipah and Hendra viral diseases, have emerged and re-emerged, posing serious threats to public health.

Within the framework of the Sino-French Cooperation Agreement on Emerging Infectious Diseases Prevention and Control, signed in October 2004, China constructed its first BSL-4 laboratory in 2015 in Wuhan.

From the lab's website: "In 2003, SARS virus broke out in our country, the state and the Chinese Academy of Sciences promoted the prevention and control of newly emerging diseases to a new strategic height, Wuhan Institute of Virology adjusted the discipline layout in a timely manner, on the one hand it was to have the advantage integration for the traditional preponderant disciplines such as insect virology, aquatic animal virology, biological control, analysis of biotechnology etc.; on the other hand, through the training and the introduction of talents, it was to lay out a series of medical virus-related discipline groups, engaged in the researches of HIV, influenza virus, hepatitis virus, tumor virus and zoonotic virus and virus replication and antiviral drugs etc. In 2004, the Chinese and French governments signed a cooperation agreement on fighting and preventing new diseases, stressing the active cooperation between China and France in the construction of high-level biosafety laboratories and the system construction of biosafety laws and regulations etc." https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=lp_2858778011_nav_em_t1_0_4_5_1__aiv?rh=i%3ainstant-video%2cn%3a2858778011&ie=utf8&node=2858778011

It would also seem that research on bats was taking place at this lab. See abstract titled Bat origin of human coronaviruses. Virol J., December, 2016...."Moreover, intermediate hosts are believed to play an important role in the transmission and emergence of these coronaviruses from bats to humans. Understanding the bat origin of human coronaviruses is helpful for the prediction and prevention of another pandemic emergence in the future." Notice the date. https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=lp_2858778011_nav_em_t1_0_4_5_1__aiv?rh=i%3ainstant-video%2cn%3a2858778011&ie=utf8&node=2858778011

Do take some time on the list provided, china has been aware of the coronavirus, COVID-19, for years.

So, did China make the coronavirus....probably as they tried to understand how the bat virus crossed over to human. Did they intentionally release it on their own people, probably not.

kemmer

Interesting. But that’s about all.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Okay, so the alternative is bats in November 2019, which were not sold as food in the wet market, had a SARS-like virus somehow got into the market and sneezed on a dead chicken and that a person with Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS), without cooking the chicken, ate it and got sick. And that gave birth to the coronavirus that the lab has been studying for years.

Do note, the Horseshoe Bat lives throughout China.....Horseshoe bats are carriers of a SARS-like virus....yet, the outbreak of this virus centered in the location of a biohazard lab....and that is just "interesting?" China reported a single case of MERS, yet the lab has samples. Just "interesting?" Further, the coronavirus is an RNA virus....interesting as the "lab' produced a paper in 2017 regarding Scientists report on the first synthesis of a baculovirus aka Artificially creating RNA virus. Just "interesting?"

How do you think the virus jumped?

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

This is from the lab's website....also just "interesting." Notice the date: December 2015

The emergence of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS)-CoV underscores the threat of cross-species transmission events leading to outbreaks in humans.


Recently, Prof. Zhengli Shi and Xingyi Ge from WIV, in cooperation with researchers from University of North Carolina, Harvard Medical School, Bellinzona Institute of Microbiology and etc, examine the disease potential of a SARS-like virus, SHC014-CoV, which is currently circulating in Chinese horseshoe bat populations. Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system, the scientists generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild-type backbone can efficiently use multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV. Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein.

On the basis of these findings, they synthetically re-derived an infectious full-length SHC014 recombinant virus and demonstrate robust viral replication both in vitro and in vivo. The work suggests a potential risk of SARS-CoV re-emergence from viruses currently circulating in bat populations.

Second on their list: https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=lp_2858778011_nav_em_t1_0_4_5_1__aiv?rh=i%3ainstant-video%2cn%3a2858778011&ie=utf8&node=2858778011

kemmer

There were 100s if not 1000s of Americans and foreigners in Wuhan; last year I was one of them.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

We are not talking about hundreds or millions, we are talking about patient zero and how they were infected.