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Apr 11, 2020 16:34:56   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
TYPICAL......Crickets!!!!

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Apr 11, 2020 17:43:54   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Pennylynn wrote:
TYPICAL......Crickets!!!!


Pennylynn, you're wasting your time trying to talk about anything with kemmer. He isn't a thinker. He doesn't put up anything worthwhile on OPP. His posts consist mostly of one-liner denunciations of anything that makes sense. He acts like a troll. They live for the reaction they can get out of people and nothing else. Don't feed the trolls.

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Apr 11, 2020 20:26:52   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Pennylynn, you're wasting your time trying to talk about anything with kemmer. He isn't a thinker. He doesn't put up anything worthwhile on OPP. His posts consist mostly of one-liner denunciations of anything that makes sense. He acts like a troll. They live for the reaction they can get out of people and nothing else. Don't feed the trolls.


Thank you, my friend, for the reminder!

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Apr 12, 2020 11:29:28   #
EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast
 
Pennylynn wrote:
We are not talking about hundreds or millions, we are talking about patient zero and how they were infected.


Nice try Penny. Too bad you haven't concluded that to try to put facts and reason to the likes of Kemmer ain't gonna work. they missed the gift understanding.

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Apr 12, 2020 11:30:06   #
EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast
 
kemmer wrote:
There were 100s if not 1000s of Americans and foreigners in W***n; last year I was one of them.


Why didn't you stay?

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Apr 12, 2020 15:36:35   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Patriot1 wrote:
I think it came from a military biological laboratory.


I guess I'm the only one who heard it was stolen from Canadian lab by a female Chinese doctor who was k**led. We all seem to agree it went to China.

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Apr 12, 2020 16:08:05   #
Ricktloml
 
Pennylynn wrote:
At one point, I did believe it came from the wet markets, I do not believe it any longer. I have read everything I can find and even some Aisian blogs. They seem to agree that China's patient zero was a lab worker who has since "disappeared."

A memo from the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology is seen as a tacit admission that some kind of incident may have occurred at the W***n lab. The ministry issued a directive mandating more stringent handling of v***ses and bioagents by all labs and research institutes. The document alluded to the slack oversight and management rampant at some facilities, and stressed that protection and decontamination must be beefed up now that more labs across the nation are intensifying their efforts to develop medicines to treat it and a v*****e to prevent it. https://asiatimes.com/2020/02/c****av***s-lab-leakage-rumors-spreading

Another Asian source explains, after the 2003 SARS epidemic, the government of China initiated a plan to construct a national high-level biosafety laboratory system to prepare for and respond to future infectious disease outbreaks.

This led to the establishment of the Biosafety Level 4 laboratory -- the W***n National Biosafety Laboratory (Level 4). The move was part of a plan to build between five and seven biosafety level-4 (BSL-4) labs across the Chinese mainland by 2025.

Laboratories are classified into biocontainment levels 1 to 4, depending on the pathogenicity of microbes investigated. Biosafety Level 4 (BSL-4) laboratories investigate the most dangerous pathogens and have maximum biocontainment levels.

Over the last two decades, numerous infectious diseases, including Ebola, Marburg Hemorrhagic Fever, Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever, Lassa Fever, SARS, Avian Influenza A (H5N1), Rift Valley Fever, and Nipah and Hendra v***l diseases, have emerged and re-emerged, posing serious threats to public health.

Within the framework of the Sino-French Cooperation Agreement on Emerging Infectious Diseases Prevention and Control, signed in October 2004, China constructed its first BSL-4 laboratory in 2015 in W***n.

From the lab's website: "In 2003, SARS v***s broke out in our country, the state and the Chinese Academy of Sciences promoted the prevention and control of newly emerging diseases to a new strategic height, W***n Institute of V******y adjusted the discipline layout in a timely manner, on the one hand it was to have the advantage integration for the traditional preponderant disciplines such as insect v******y, aquatic animal v******y, biological control, analysis of biotechnology etc.; on the other hand, through the training and the introduction of talents, it was to lay out a series of medical v***s-related discipline groups, engaged in the researches of HIV, influenza v***s, hepatitis v***s, tumor v***s and zoonotic v***s and v***s replication and antiv***l drugs etc. In 2004, the Chinese and French governments signed a cooperation agreement on fighting and preventing new diseases, stressing the active cooperation between China and France in the construction of high-level biosafety laboratories and the system construction of biosafety laws and regulations etc." https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=lp_2858778011_nav_em_t1_0_4_5_1__aiv?rh=i%3ainstant-video%2cn%3a2858778011&ie=utf8&node=2858778011

It would also seem that research on bats was taking place at this lab. See abstract titled Bat origin of human c****av***ses. Virol J., December, 2016...."Moreover, intermediate hosts are believed to play an important role in the t***smission and emergence of these c****av***ses from bats to humans. Understanding the bat origin of human c****av***ses is helpful for the prediction and prevention of another p******c emergence in the future." Notice the date. https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=lp_2858778011_nav_em_t1_0_4_5_1__aiv?rh=i%3ainstant-video%2cn%3a2858778011&ie=utf8&node=2858778011

Do take some time on the list provided, china has been aware of the c****av***s, C****-**, for years.

So, did China make the c****av***s....probably as they tried to understand how the bat v***s crossed over to human. Did they intentionally release it on their own people, probably not.
At one point, I did believe it came from the wet m... (show quote)



As usual, a well researched and thoughtful response. Thanks for going to the effort to educate. I hope you and yours are safe and well.

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Apr 12, 2020 16:16:19   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Ricktloml wrote:
As usual, a well researched and thoughtful response. Thanks for going to the effort to educate. I hope you and yours are safe and well.


You are most kind!

I am well and my family are in good health. I hope you can report the same!

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Apr 12, 2020 18:52:33   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 


THAT was an awesome informative and all too true many have suspected it was engineered v***s thanks for posting

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Apr 12, 2020 20:14:26   #
WEBCO
 
kemmer wrote:
The v***s came from the live animal market in W***n.


Which is less than 200 meters from the lab. How is it that no one outside of W***n was infected? Sounds like an intentional release to me. If not then China is still lying about the disease and it's effects.

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Apr 12, 2020 20:57:32   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
EN Submarine Qualified wrote:
Why didn't you stay?


So it was YOU!

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Apr 13, 2020 06:56:29   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Pennylynn wrote:
At one point, I did believe it came from the wet markets, I do not believe it any longer. I have read everything I can find and even some Aisian blogs. They seem to agree that China's patient zero was a lab worker who has since "disappeared."

A memo from the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology is seen as a tacit admission that some kind of incident may have occurred at the W***n lab. The ministry issued a directive mandating more stringent handling of v***ses and bioagents by all labs and research institutes. The document alluded to the slack oversight and management rampant at some facilities, and stressed that protection and decontamination must be beefed up now that more labs across the nation are intensifying their efforts to develop medicines to treat it and a v*****e to prevent it. https://asiatimes.com/2020/02/c****av***s-lab-leakage-rumors-spreading

Another Asian source explains, after the 2003 SARS epidemic, the government of China initiated a plan to construct a national high-level biosafety laboratory system to prepare for and respond to future infectious disease outbreaks.

This led to the establishment of the Biosafety Level 4 laboratory -- the W***n National Biosafety Laboratory (Level 4). The move was part of a plan to build between five and seven biosafety level-4 (BSL-4) labs across the Chinese mainland by 2025.

Laboratories are classified into biocontainment levels 1 to 4, depending on the pathogenicity of microbes investigated. Biosafety Level 4 (BSL-4) laboratories investigate the most dangerous pathogens and have maximum biocontainment levels.

Over the last two decades, numerous infectious diseases, including Ebola, Marburg Hemorrhagic Fever, Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever, Lassa Fever, SARS, Avian Influenza A (H5N1), Rift Valley Fever, and Nipah and Hendra v***l diseases, have emerged and re-emerged, posing serious threats to public health.

Within the framework of the Sino-French Cooperation Agreement on Emerging Infectious Diseases Prevention and Control, signed in October 2004, China constructed its first BSL-4 laboratory in 2015 in W***n.

From the lab's website: "In 2003, SARS v***s broke out in our country, the state and the Chinese Academy of Sciences promoted the prevention and control of newly emerging diseases to a new strategic height, W***n Institute of V******y adjusted the discipline layout in a timely manner, on the one hand it was to have the advantage integration for the traditional preponderant disciplines such as insect v******y, aquatic animal v******y, biological control, analysis of biotechnology etc.; on the other hand, through the training and the introduction of talents, it was to lay out a series of medical v***s-related discipline groups, engaged in the researches of HIV, influenza v***s, hepatitis v***s, tumor v***s and zoonotic v***s and v***s replication and antiv***l drugs etc. In 2004, the Chinese and French governments signed a cooperation agreement on fighting and preventing new diseases, stressing the active cooperation between China and France in the construction of high-level biosafety laboratories and the system construction of biosafety laws and regulations etc." https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=lp_2858778011_nav_em_t1_0_4_5_1__aiv?rh=i%3ainstant-video%2cn%3a2858778011&ie=utf8&node=2858778011

It would also seem that research on bats was taking place at this lab. See abstract titled Bat origin of human c****av***ses. Virol J., December, 2016...."Moreover, intermediate hosts are believed to play an important role in the t***smission and emergence of these c****av***ses from bats to humans. Understanding the bat origin of human c****av***ses is helpful for the prediction and prevention of another p******c emergence in the future." Notice the date. https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=lp_2858778011_nav_em_t1_0_4_5_1__aiv?rh=i%3ainstant-video%2cn%3a2858778011&ie=utf8&node=2858778011

Do take some time on the list provided, china has been aware of the c****av***s, C****-**, for years.

So, did China make the c****av***s....probably as they tried to understand how the bat v***s crossed over to human. Did they intentionally release it on their own people, probably not.
At one point, I did believe it came from the wet m... (show quote)



Several Chinese scientists posted videos but have long since been deleted.
The level IV bio lab had been trying to understand why bats carry deadly v***ses and yet are not infected, meaning their i****e s****ms are bullet proof. This C***d ** (W***n V***s) was designed to breakthrough the bats i****e s****m. The idea is, crack the i****e s****m code of creating a v***s that will make a bat sick, gives deeper understanding of the i****e s****m with hopes in protecting humans i****e s****ms from deadly diseases.
It was said that this was created in a United States laboratory and smuggled by a Chinese National to China. The smuggling scientist had hopes to plagiarize existing research for personal credit, publishing advanced American research.
While I tend to believe this scenario it's likely the t***h will be buried along with any descending scientists of the C*******t China narrative.
I don't believe in "Karma" but it would seem the scientists lusting for fame and glory by stealing and lying may disagree with my unbelief in karma...

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Apr 13, 2020 07:29:30   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Pennylynn wrote:
At one point, I did believe it came from the wet markets, I do not believe it any longer. I have read everything I can find and even some Aisian blogs. They seem to agree that China's patient zero was a lab worker who has since "disappeared."

A memo from the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology is seen as a tacit admission that some kind of incident may have occurred at the W***n lab. The ministry issued a directive mandating more stringent handling of v***ses and bioagents by all labs and research institutes. The document alluded to the slack oversight and management rampant at some facilities, and stressed that protection and decontamination must be beefed up now that more labs across the nation are intensifying their efforts to develop medicines to treat it and a v*****e to prevent it. https://asiatimes.com/2020/02/c****av***s-lab-leakage-rumors-spreading

Another Asian source explains, after the 2003 SARS epidemic, the government of China initiated a plan to construct a national high-level biosafety laboratory system to prepare for and respond to future infectious disease outbreaks.

This led to the establishment of the Biosafety Level 4 laboratory -- the W***n National Biosafety Laboratory (Level 4). The move was part of a plan to build between five and seven biosafety level-4 (BSL-4) labs across the Chinese mainland by 2025.

Laboratories are classified into biocontainment levels 1 to 4, depending on the pathogenicity of microbes investigated. Biosafety Level 4 (BSL-4) laboratories investigate the most dangerous pathogens and have maximum biocontainment levels.

Over the last two decades, numerous infectious diseases, including Ebola, Marburg Hemorrhagic Fever, Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever, Lassa Fever, SARS, Avian Influenza A (H5N1), Rift Valley Fever, and Nipah and Hendra v***l diseases, have emerged and re-emerged, posing serious threats to public health.

Within the framework of the Sino-French Cooperation Agreement on Emerging Infectious Diseases Prevention and Control, signed in October 2004, China constructed its first BSL-4 laboratory in 2015 in W***n.

From the lab's website: "In 2003, SARS v***s broke out in our country, the state and the Chinese Academy of Sciences promoted the prevention and control of newly emerging diseases to a new strategic height, W***n Institute of V******y adjusted the discipline layout in a timely manner, on the one hand it was to have the advantage integration for the traditional preponderant disciplines such as insect v******y, aquatic animal v******y, biological control, analysis of biotechnology etc.; on the other hand, through the training and the introduction of talents, it was to lay out a series of medical v***s-related discipline groups, engaged in the researches of HIV, influenza v***s, hepatitis v***s, tumor v***s and zoonotic v***s and v***s replication and antiv***l drugs etc. In 2004, the Chinese and French governments signed a cooperation agreement on fighting and preventing new diseases, stressing the active cooperation between China and France in the construction of high-level biosafety laboratories and the system construction of biosafety laws and regulations etc." https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=lp_2858778011_nav_em_t1_0_4_5_1__aiv?rh=i%3ainstant-video%2cn%3a2858778011&ie=utf8&node=2858778011

It would also seem that research on bats was taking place at this lab. See abstract titled Bat origin of human c****av***ses. Virol J., December, 2016...."Moreover, intermediate hosts are believed to play an important role in the t***smission and emergence of these c****av***ses from bats to humans. Understanding the bat origin of human c****av***ses is helpful for the prediction and prevention of another p******c emergence in the future." Notice the date. https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=lp_2858778011_nav_em_t1_0_4_5_1__aiv?rh=i%3ainstant-video%2cn%3a2858778011&ie=utf8&node=2858778011

Do take some time on the list provided, china has been aware of the c****av***s, C****-**, for years.

So, did China make the c****av***s....probably as they tried to understand how the bat v***s crossed over to human. Did they intentionally release it on their own people, probably not.
At one point, I did believe it came from the wet m... (show quote)


LINK CORRECTION TO LAB: HTTPS://english.whiov.cas.cn/Research/Research_Progress/201603/t20160311_160487.html

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Apr 13, 2020 09:51:51   #
EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast
 
Pennylynn wrote:
LINK CORRECTION TO LAB: HTTPS://english.whiov.cas.cn/Research/Research_Progress/201603/t20160311_160487.html
Just found this link
https://rawconservativeopinions.com/2020/04/13/global-bombshell-china-admits-to-harvesting-testing-c****-**-like-c****av***ses-at-w***n-lab/

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Apr 13, 2020 22:27:34   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 


Had read a report about this yesterday but it did not say WE help fund this so in a way when china says we created this their right how could any responsible person a president approve of this may be the report that Trump fired Fusi is right all this time he KNEW what we were facing and said nothing

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