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Apr 5, 2020 13:25:40   #
EmilyD
 
kemmer wrote:
Right. 4600 sailors hated the captain for looking out for them. He should have just minded his own business and let the virus run its course.
Now I’ll tell one.

Acting US navy secretary Thomas Modly said the Navy had been working for several days to get the sailors off the ship in Guam. He said Guam did not have enough beds and the Navy was in talks with the local government to use hotels and set up tents when Crozier pulled his stunt. That's just one of the many reasons why Modly fired Crozier.

You just don't know everything, kemmer...and to just make things up - about the Navy, no less (!!!!!) - just shows what a jerk you are. If you didn't serve as a commanding officer in the Navy, you have no weight to your claims that you know exactly what was going on there.

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Apr 5, 2020 13:54:05   #
kemmer
 
EmilyD wrote:
Acting US navy secretary Thomas Modly said the Navy had been working for several days to get the sailors off the ship in Guam. He said Guam did not have enough beds and the Navy was in talks with the local government to use hotels and set up tents when Crozier pulled his stunt.

“Talks with local governments”. Doesn’t sound like there was any sense of urgency. Crozier did the right thing.
Do you think Trump will intervene like he did for that Navy Seal convicted of a war crime?

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Apr 5, 2020 14:20:59   #
Wickedestoldwolf
 
Quit lying. Trump didn't do squat. The Navy takes care of there own

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Apr 5, 2020 14:47:24   #
EmilyD
 
kemmer wrote:
“Talks with local governments”. Doesn’t sound like there was any sense of urgency. Crozier did the right thing.
Do you think Trump will intervene like he did for that Navy Seal convicted of a war crime?

They were trying to figure out where to get enough beds for potentially sick crew because Guam has limited hospital facilities. What else did you think they should have done with the crewmen? Do you think they should have been evacuated using EA-18G Growlers? Or 18A-EF Super Hornets? American Airlines cannot land their planes on aircraft carriers.....

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Apr 5, 2020 15:50:35   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
Wickedestoldwolf wrote:
Quit lying. Trump didn't do squat. The Navy takes care of there own


To repeat what I have often said, ... without lies and bull$hit, the left has nothing to add to any discussion.

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Apr 5, 2020 16:17:56   #
Flyinhoss Loc: Texas
 
Trooper745 wrote:
Why don't you educate yourself, Airfart? Crosier flucked up in his partisan rush to score some brownie points with some leftist anti-Trumpers, and put the security of a whole carrier battle group in jeapordy. The leftist political-hack dumbass should be stripped of his rank and kicked out of the Navy.


DANG! I wish I had written that, Trooper 745! Airfart, obviously never served in the military. Breaking security protocol, is something only a moron would do.

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Apr 5, 2020 16:26:16   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
kemmer wrote:
Right. Trump told us during the 2016 campaign that he knew more about ISIS than the generals. And the goober goofballs believed him. He knows NOTHING about military matters that are not explained to him in dumbed down terms and pictures.


Obama Is More Responsible For ISIS Than Trump
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2017/02/16/are-the-democrats-helping-isis-recruit/#56d0173a26ff

The United States Has Brought the Leader of ISIS to Justice
NATIONAL SECURITY & DEFENSE
Issued on: October 27, 2019
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/united-states-brought-leader-isis-justice/

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Apr 5, 2020 16:49:21   #
saltwind78
 
Airforceone wrote:
Captain Brett Crozier of the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt has become a symbol of AMERICAN resilience and determination in a time of crisis.

Trump had him removed from the ship and his command.

Captain Crosier knew exactly what he was doing and put his career on the line to expose Trump for what he is.

In an attempt to inform the AMERICAN people Crozier made the brave and risky decision to share his letter to Navy Officials through Non classified channels that the defense department was leaving uninfected sailors aboard ship and was putting over 3000 sailors at risk. This seems to be the Trump agenda keep the count down put other people at risk to save his political ass. He did it to the AMERICAN people for 2 1/2 months and Trump still hasn’t learned.

Trump was not satisfied with just firing him. Trump had to smear him and paint him as being emotionally unfit for command.

As admitted by the Navy after the Trump comments Crozier has had an absolutely incredible career but Donald Trump (CAPTAIN BONE SPURS) had to try and destroy a man that served this country.

As Trump (Captain Bone Spurs) was denigrating Crozier his sailors certainly appreciate Crozier for stepping over the line to raise the alarm, as evidence by there raucous send off that they gave there beloved Captain who put his career on the line for trying to keep his sailors safe. It is a sad day for our military when The safety of these sailors is deemed less important than adherence to regulations put in place to protect Trumps political Ass.

(I HOPE THE SO CALLED TRUMP FAKE NEWS WILL PLAY THAT VIDEO EVERYDAY TILL THE ELECTION OF HOW THOSE SAILORS FELT ABOUT THERE CAPTAIN THAT WAS CLASSIFIED AS UNFIT BY CAPTAIN BONE Spurs. IT WAS AN AMAZING AND TRULY AND INSPIRATIONAL SENDOFF.

(GOD BLESS YOU CAPTAIN BRETT CROZIER AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE YOU CAN HANG YOUR HEAD HIGH KNOWING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THOS 3000 SAILORS AND THERE FAMILIES NO LONGER LISTEN TO A PRESIDENT THAT CHOOSE TO DENIGRATE YOU AND HE NEVER SACRIFICED ANYTHING FOR THIS COUNTRY AND USED BONE SPURS TO AVOID THE DRAFT.)

STAY SAFE CAPTAIN CROZIER YOU ARE A TRUE AMERICAN.
Captain Brett Crozier of the U.S.S. Theodore Roose... (show quote)


I would sail with Captain Crozier any time, any place. A Navy Captain that is willing to put his career on the line to protect his men is my kind of skipper!

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Apr 5, 2020 16:50:57   #
saltwind78
 
Flyinhoss wrote:
DANG! I wish I had written that, Trooper 745! Airfart, obviously never served in the military. Breaking security protocol, is something only a moron would do.


I served in the Navy in Nam, and I wish my skipper would have had that kind of courage.

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Apr 5, 2020 16:56:54   #
EmilyD
 
saltwind78 wrote:
I would sail with Captain Crozier any time, any place. A Navy Captain that is willing to put his career on the line to protect his men is my kind of skipper!

Hmmmm....since the virus was threatening the ship, and this man broke the chain of command to send a letter, attached it to an unclassified email, and shotgunned it out to ~30 people including folks who aren’t even in the Navy, to report the seriousness of the virus on the ship and the lack of commanding officers caring about it..... and Since he was trying to keep the crewmen safe from the awful, highly contageous virus...why were all those cheering sailors all bunched together in a crowd? Doesn't seem like they were awfully concerned about contracting the virus to me.

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Apr 5, 2020 17:05:37   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
EmilyD wrote:
Hmmmm....since the virus was threatening the ship, and this man broke the chain of command to send a letter, attached it to an unclassified email, and shotgunned it out to ~30 people including folks who aren’t even in the Navy, to report the seriousness of the virus on the ship and the lack of commanding officers caring about it..... and Since he was trying to keep the crewmen safe from the awful, highly contageous virus...why were all those cheering sailors all bunched together in a crowd? Doesn't seem like they were awfully concerned about contracting the virus to me.
Hmmmm....since the virus was threatening the ship,... (show quote)


An old navy saying, loose lips sink ships.

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Apr 5, 2020 17:49:31   #
kemmer
 
Trooper745 wrote:
To repeat what I have often said, ... without lies and bull$hit, the left has nothing to add to any discussion.

Lies and bullshit is how Trump got to be president.

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Apr 5, 2020 17:59:56   #
EmilyD
 
kemmer wrote:
Lies and bullshit is how Trump got to be president.


That is a lie....and you are full of bullshit.

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Apr 5, 2020 18:09:00   #
Radiance3
 
Airforceone wrote:
Captain Brett Crozier of the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt has become a symbol of AMERICAN resilience and determination in a time of crisis.

Trump had him removed from the ship and his command.

Captain Crosier knew exactly what he was doing and put his career on the line to expose Trump for what he is.

In an attempt to inform the AMERICAN people Crozier made the brave and risky decision to share his letter to Navy Officials through Non classified channels that the defense department was leaving uninfected sailors aboard ship and was putting over 3000 sailors at risk. This seems to be the Trump agenda keep the count down put other people at risk to save his political ass. He did it to the AMERICAN people for 2 1/2 months and Trump still hasn’t learned.

Trump was not satisfied with just firing him. Trump had to smear him and paint him as being emotionally unfit for command.

As admitted by the Navy after the Trump comments Crozier has had an absolutely incredible career but Donald Trump (CAPTAIN BONE SPURS) had to try and destroy a man that served this country.

As Trump (Captain Bone Spurs) was denigrating Crozier his sailors certainly appreciate Crozier for stepping over the line to raise the alarm, as evidence by there raucous send off that they gave there beloved Captain who put his career on the line for trying to keep his sailors safe. It is a sad day for our military when The safety of these sailors is deemed less important than adherence to regulations put in place to protect Trumps political Ass.

(I HOPE THE SO CALLED TRUMP FAKE NEWS WILL PLAY THAT VIDEO EVERYDAY TILL THE ELECTION OF HOW THOSE SAILORS FELT ABOUT THERE CAPTAIN THAT WAS CLASSIFIED AS UNFIT BY CAPTAIN BONE Spurs. IT WAS AN AMAZING AND TRULY AND INSPIRATIONAL SENDOFF.

(GOD BLESS YOU CAPTAIN BRETT CROZIER AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE YOU CAN HANG YOUR HEAD HIGH KNOWING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THOS 3000 SAILORS AND THERE FAMILIES NO LONGER LISTEN TO A PRESIDENT THAT CHOOSE TO DENIGRATE YOU AND HE NEVER SACRIFICED ANYTHING FOR THIS COUNTRY AND USED BONE SPURS TO AVOID THE DRAFT.)

STAY SAFE CAPTAIN CROZIER YOU ARE A TRUE AMERICAN.
Captain Brett Crozier of the U.S.S. Theodore Roose... (show quote)

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AF1, your standard operating procedure is a complete dishonesty,lies, and twisting of facts.

The removal of Capt. Crozier has nothing to do with president Trump. It was the acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly who he described Crozier’s firing this week as the "hardest thing that I've ever had to do."
As a protocol, Modly informed the president about the firing. The president is the Commander-in-Chief and gets relevant messages from the US military. President Trump had nothing to do with the firing. It was the immediate officer the Acting Navy Secretary who did the firing. You are a CHRONIC LIAR AF1.


https://www.defenseone.com/politics/2020/04/it-doesnt-add-me-current-and-former-navy-officials-question-captains-abrupt-dismissal/164363/

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Apr 5, 2020 18:14:06   #
Flyinhoss Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
Lies and bullshit is how Trump got to be president.


LOL! Kindly tell us the name of a Democrat president since 1900, didn't use Lies & Bullshit to get elected, except the least effective, but honorable Jimmy Carter. Just one... oh, Truman, of course. He moved up from V.P. when FDR died in his 4th term.

His temper was worse than Trumps. He wanted to punch out a newspaper critic, for a negative review of his soprano daughter's singing ability.

He fired General Mac Arthur and dropped two atomic bombs on the Japanese. I am not finding fault with his decisions. He could have been a Republican, today.

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