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Senata Fails to Move Forward Coronavirus Bill Amid Dems' Opposition
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Mar 25, 2020 01:34:58   #
Tug484
 
Peewee wrote:
I forgot to thank you for another post! Thanks, Tug!


You're welcome and no problem.

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Mar 25, 2020 07:14:39   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Tug484 wrote:



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Mar 25, 2020 07:26:36   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Tug484 wrote:
I think they may have to do it that way to keep from having everybody coming in to vote.


They certainly should do it that way... Safer for everyone...👍✨

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Mar 25, 2020 07:38:22   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I have reservations about a whole lot of people out there supposedly working on this virus. I posted Fauci's comments simply to give some of these leftist progs a hint that president Trump and his admin do not in any way fit the mold they create for him.


Oh, I know why you posted Fauci’s comments and agree... Trump is getting advice from a large number of people and then has to make a decision.. Difficult when dealing with the unknown of this virus, the silent enemy as he correctly defines it..

Also evetyone bitching over Trumps lack of action is BS.. He puts it in motion and then has to deal with the Bureaucratic time delays of others... I mean it’s not like he’s out there running those ships he’s sent to the hot points, or standing there distributing the masks, the ventilators and protective gear etc. He says get it out now and then has to rely on others to do so.

And of course then we have to remember our president has many other things going on, not just the virus...Most of it countering the roadblocks being thrown up by the left and you can bet that’s exactly what they are doing!!!!

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Mar 25, 2020 08:13:25   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JimMe wrote:
A "Voice Vote" is very often used, and the Speaker/Pres of Senate calls "How many in favor of the Bill say "Yea", and after all the "Yeas" are heard, they ask for the "Nays", and then the Speaker/Pres of Senate decides who they believe has the most votes and declares whichever side was in the Majority...

Usually, a Member of the House or Senate who doesn't think the Voting Result was accurate requests an individual vote, and the Speaker/Pres of Senate is obliged to have the Members cast their votes either electronically, or by "Roll-Call", the votes are then tallied and the Speaker/Pres Senate declares whichever side was in the Majority...
A "Voice Vote" is very often used, and t... (show quote)


You are speaking of the Senate voting.. We know how the Senate will vote holding the majority.... I was speaking of Congress knowing how they do not ever agree on anything and if voice vote is done how often they revert to specific roll call votes and especially with people on both sides out right now..

If we need to get Technical over this there are 4 ways Congress can vote, : voice vote, division vote, yea and nay (or roll call) vote, and recorded vote. In the Committee of the Whole, the forms are voice vote, division vote, and recorded vote..

Yea and Nay Vote
Yay and nay votes provide a record of how each Member voted. These votes are taken by electronic device unless the computerized voting system malfunctions, in which case standby procedures outlined in Rule XX, clause 2(b), are used to conduct the votes.
The Constitution (Article I, Section 5) states that “the Yeas and Nays of the Members ... on any question” shall be obtained “at the Desire of one fifth of those present.” Under this provision, it does not matter if a quorum of the House (218 Members when the House has no vacancies) is not present to conduct business, because any Member can say, “Mr. [or Madam] Speaker, on that vote, I demand the yeas and nays.” If the demand is supported by one-fifth of those present, the Speaker will say that “the yeas and nays” are ordered.
Rule XX, clause 6, provides another type of yea and nay vote. If it is evident to a lawmaker that a quorum is not present in the chamber, he or she may object to a voice vote on that ground. Assuming the chair sustains the point of order, the chair will order a yea and nay vote. To make a quorum point of order, a Member says, “I object to the vote on the ground that a quorum is not present, and I make a point of order that a quorum is not present.” The actual vote will then simultaneously determine both issues: the presence of a quorum and the vote on the pending question.
House Voting Procedures: Forms and Requirements
Congressional Research Service 98-228 · VERSION 14 · UPDATED 1

de novo (as if new) to the House.
House Voting Procedures: Forms and Requirements
In addition, clause 10 of Rule XX states that the “yeas and nays shall be considered as ordered” on final passage of a limited number of measures or matters, such as concurrent budget resolutions. The Constitution requires that votes to override presidential vetoes shall be determined by the yeas and nays.
Recorded Vote
Recorded votes also identify how each Member voted and are taken by electronic device.

Don’t believe me, read it from the Senate.gov itself....

https://www.senate.gov/CRSpubs/b79ade62-94d9-4e91-9883-70b00f76a708.pdf

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Mar 25, 2020 09:15:10   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
lindajoy wrote:
You are speaking of the Senate voting.. We know how the Senate will vote holding the majority.... I was speaking of Congress knowing how they do not ever agree on anything and if voice vote is done how often they revert to specific roll call votes and especially with people on both sides out right now..

If we need to get Technical over this there are 4 ways Congress can vote, : voice vote, division vote, yea and nay (or roll call) vote, and recorded vote. In the Committee of the Whole, the forms are voice vote, division vote, and recorded vote..

Yea and Nay Vote
Yay and nay votes provide a record of how each Member voted. These votes are taken by electronic device unless the computerized voting system malfunctions, in which case standby procedures outlined in Rule XX, clause 2(b), are used to conduct the votes.
The Constitution (Article I, Section 5) states that “the Yeas and Nays of the Members ... on any question” shall be obtained “at the Desire of one fifth of those present.” Under this provision, it does not matter if a quorum of the House (218 Members when the House has no vacancies) is not present to conduct business, because any Member can say, “Mr. [or Madam] Speaker, on that vote, I demand the yeas and nays.” If the demand is supported by one-fifth of those present, the Speaker will say that “the yeas and nays” are ordered.
Rule XX, clause 6, provides another type of yea and nay vote. If it is evident to a lawmaker that a quorum is not present in the chamber, he or she may object to a voice vote on that ground. Assuming the chair sustains the point of order, the chair will order a yea and nay vote. To make a quorum point of order, a Member says, “I object to the vote on the ground that a quorum is not present, and I make a point of order that a quorum is not present.” The actual vote will then simultaneously determine both issues: the presence of a quorum and the vote on the pending question.
House Voting Procedures: Forms and Requirements
Congressional Research Service 98-228 · VERSION 14 · UPDATED 1

de novo (as if new) to the House.
House Voting Procedures: Forms and Requirements
In addition, clause 10 of Rule XX states that the “yeas and nays shall be considered as ordered” on final passage of a limited number of measures or matters, such as concurrent budget resolutions. The Constitution requires that votes to override presidential vetoes shall be determined by the yeas and nays.
Recorded Vote
Recorded votes also identify how each Member voted and are taken by electronic device.

Don’t believe me, read it from the Senate.gov itself....

https://www.senate.gov/CRSpubs/b79ade62-94d9-4e91-9883-70b00f76a708.pdf
You are speaking of the Senate voting.. We know ho... (show quote)


Well done!

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Mar 25, 2020 10:40:25   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
The situation looked promising with Dems and GOP working together and appears they were so close to finishing the deal when Speaker Pelosi walked and squashed the whole deal. Looks like those payments of around $12,000 will be delayed because Pelosi has thrown a wrench into the whole deal. Maybe we won't be getting those checks as soon expected. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-fails-move-foward-coronavirus-phase-three-rescue-bill


I does seem the Democrats are allied with the Chinese Virus.

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Mar 25, 2020 11:00:28   #
trashbaum
 
Peewee wrote:
Well done!


Very well done!

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Mar 25, 2020 11:31:00   #
JIM BETHEA
 
Numbers correct but the names are wrong ~ 30% of the Dems are in support of Trump's work on the Coronavirus issues ~ Thousands are Democrats are tired of the Deep States fraud and doing their "Walkaways" from the failing Dem/Socialist Party I welcome them all...

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Mar 25, 2020 11:34:42   #
JIM BETHEA
 
eagleye13 wrote:
I does seem the Democrats are allied with the Chinese Virus.


Pigliosi is "Toast"

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Mar 25, 2020 11:38:57   #
trashbaum
 
JIM BETHEA wrote:
Pigliosi is "Toast"


Yes dried unsmeared toast.

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Mar 25, 2020 11:53:08   #
fullspinzoo
 
JIM BETHEA wrote:
Pigliosi is "Toast"


Van you believe it? She's holding up the Bill as we speak. Latest news is that the "House will not do anything about this CV Relief Bill until tomorrow. People are in desperate need of a cash infusion and Piglosi is concerned about the "performing arts". What a complete POS she is. And her district in San Fran is suffering. One good thing about it is the American electorate have had enough of this pathetic excuse for a human being. No priest has enough 'Hail Marys' in his bag to absolve this woman of her sins. At least she's "prayerful".

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Mar 25, 2020 12:01:26   #
bahmer
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
Van you believe it? She's holding up the Bill as we speak. Latest news is that the "House will not do anything about this CV Relief Bill until tomorrow. People are in desperate need of a cash infusion and Piglosi is concerned about the "performing arts". What a complete POS she is. And her district in San Fran is suffering. One good thing about it is the American electorate have had enough of this pathetic excuse for a human being. No priest has enough 'Hail Marys' in his bag to absolve this woman of her sins. At least she's "prayerful".
Van you believe it? She's holding up the Bill as ... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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Mar 25, 2020 12:06:24   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:


someone named laura...



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Mar 25, 2020 12:11:53   #
fullspinzoo
 
permafrost wrote:
someone named laura...


Your favorite POS Piglosi is screwing around with lives, holding up this urgent Bill with pet projects like the JFK Performance Arts allocation while people are dying. Hope you're proud of your POS party. Let's see how you 'spin' this?

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