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Mar 17, 2020 05:53:51   #
Tug484
 
JW wrote:
Apparently the governor of Ohio thinks Ohio has as many as 100,000 undiagnosed cases. I don't think anyone knows for sure.


That got walked back.

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Mar 17, 2020 15:14:59   #
Daredevil
 
saltwind78 wrote:
Liberty, Trump was very slow to respond to this pandemic. Your outrageous statement that Dems want a higher death rate is crazy. While it is true that younger people have fewer problems than we geezers, they still get very sick. I'm seventy five years old. Mt wife is in her seventies and has asthma. We are the most endangered part of the population. We are staying home and only going out when absolutely necessary. We follow all the rules about hygiene like washing hands and stuff from outside. With all that, without intervention this pandemic could effect hundreds of thousands of America, if not millions.
Liberty, Trump was very slow to respond to this pa... (show quote)



Yes, thank you. I'm not that age but I have a condition that could very severely affect me too. I agree that maybe people are panicking, but no one should be acting like this is nothing.

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Mar 17, 2020 15:16:49   #
Daredevil
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
That is the number who were diagnosed with the coronavirus in the USA who have already recovered. The WHO says most who contract the virus have mild symptoms and recover in about two weeks. Democrats wish the death rate was higher so they could blame it on Trump.


I think that's a crock, sir. The media is going too far and fear mongering (what else is new) but, just no.

And you may not be concerned, sir, but if you were in my place or any of the older folks getting it, it wouldnt seem too extreme.

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Mar 17, 2020 16:43:38   #
hdjimv Loc: South Dakota
 
Daredevil wrote:
I think that's a crock, sir. The media is going too far and fear mongering (what else is new) but, just no.

And you may not be concerned, sir, but if you were in my place or any of the older folks getting it, it wouldnt seem too extreme.


I think you are correct on the media fear mongering Dd! this is from the first link Blade Runner provided. It shows the number of times COVID-19 has been mentioned compared to other large medical issues.



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Mar 17, 2020 17:10:08   #
Daredevil
 
hdjimv wrote:
I think you are correct on the media fear mongering Dd! this is from the first link Blade Runner provided. It shows the number of times COVID-19 has been mentioned compared to other large medical issues.


Yeah. Is anyone surprised

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Mar 17, 2020 17:33:20   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
saltwind78 wrote:
Liberty, Trump was very slow to respond to this pandemic. Your outrageous statement that Dems want a higher death rate is crazy. While it is true that younger people have fewer problems than we geezers, they still get very sick. I'm seventy five years old. Mt wife is in her seventies and has asthma. We are the most endangered part of the population. We are staying home and only going out when absolutely necessary. We follow all the rules about hygiene like washing hands and stuff from outside. With all that, without intervention this pandemic could effect hundreds of thousands of America, if not millions.
Liberty, Trump was very slow to respond to this pa... (show quote)


Trump's response was adequate and appropriate. His earliest response was met with cries of over reaction and racism. His response was certainly faster and better than previous administrations.

And you're right, this thing COULD effect millions of Americans, but it just doesn't have that look to it. At any rate, our response is in full gear as it always has. People act like Trump runs the CDC and it the sole decision maker regarding things like this. Not true in the least. He's been criticized for getting rid of Obama's Pandemic response team. Well why not, they had obviously done nothing. H1N1 started in 2009 and they had plenty of time to get ready for the next pandemic but they did nothing. It isn't even they who continue to modify the flu vaccines to help them stay effective. They should have stockpiled ventilators by the hundreds of thousands. They should have done much more in terms of patient and public education but no. Nothing or as we can now see, very, very little. And still, Trump has responded and is responding as needs be.

The media has hyped this up and scared the public to death. Just look at how that is going. Pure ignorance and it's killing the economy. Just plain stupid.

You should thank Trump for his efforts.

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Mar 17, 2020 17:57:30   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Trump's response was adequate and appropriate. His earliest response was met with cries of over reaction and racism. His response was certainly faster and better than previous administrations.

And you're right, this thing COULD effect millions of Americans, but it just doesn't have that look to it. At any rate, our response is in full gear as it always has. People act like Trump runs the CDC and it the sole decision maker regarding things like this. Not true in the least. He's been criticized for getting rid of Obama's Pandemic response team. Well why not, they had obviously done nothing. H1N1 started in 2009 and they had plenty of time to get ready for the next pandemic but they did nothing. It isn't even they who continue to modify the flu vaccines to help them stay effective. They should have stockpiled ventilators by the hundreds of thousands. They should have done much more in terms of patient and public education but no. Nothing or as we can now see, very, very little. And still, Trump has responded and is responding as needs be.

The media has hyped this up and scared the public to death. Just look at how that is going. Pure ignorance and it's killing the economy. Just plain stupid.

You should thank Trump for his efforts.
Trump's response was adequate and appropriate. Hi... (show quote)


Yup, while Trump was responding with border closings and such, the house managers and Senate were holding his impeachment trial. And Joe O'biden-bama was calling this xenophobic. The Democrats are so very out of touch with reality and the American people. Whoever Joe picks for his VP will become President because Biden will no longer be mentally competent. Even Bolshevik Bernie still has a chance to turn the race around in his favor for the nomination as more people realize that Biden has completely lost it, or, he is faking it so that he can't be put on trial for quid pro quo shenanigans in Ukraine.

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Mar 17, 2020 18:07:55   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Yup, while Trump was responding with border closings and such, the house managers and Senate were holding his impeachment trial. And Joe O'biden-bama was calling this xenophobic. The Democrats are so very out of touch with reality and the American people. Whoever Joe picks for his VP will become President because Biden will no longer be mentally competent. Even Bolshevik Bernie still has a chance to turn the race around in his favor for the nomination as more people realize that Biden has completely lost it, or, he is faking it so that he can't be put on trial for quid pro quo shenanigans in Ukraine.
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LOL! I think he'd have to be shown to be crazy at the time of his shenanigans.

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Mar 17, 2020 18:37:13   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
LOL! I think he'd have to be shown to be crazy at the time of his shenanigans.


But we know he wasn't. It was all routine business as usual for the syndicate-family using his position in the government to garner favor and money from anyone they could sucker. That's how they earned nearly all of their money.

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Mar 17, 2020 18:54:05   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
dtucker300 wrote:
But we know he wasn't. It was all routine business as usual for the syndicate-family using his position in the government to garner favor and money from anyone they could sucker. That's how they earned nearly all of their money.


I know! Can't wait till they get him.

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Mar 17, 2020 18:54:28   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
saltwind78 wrote:
Liberty, Trump was very slow to respond to this pandemic. Your outrageous statement that Dems want a higher death rate is crazy. While it is true that younger people have fewer problems than we geezers, they still get very sick. I'm seventy five years old. Mt wife is in her seventies and has asthma. We are the most endangered part of the population. We are staying home and only going out when absolutely necessary. We follow all the rules about hygiene like washing hands and stuff from outside. With all that, without intervention this pandemic could effect hundreds of thousands of America, if not millions.
Liberty, Trump was very slow to respond to this pa... (show quote)


No he wasn't China was slow to tell anybody first case that we knew of didn't come around until October and the CDC didn't tell Trump about it's until December 30th. January 7th President Trump bans all flights to and from China! January 30th Trump puts a travel ban on Iran, South Korea, and Italy. When he did that travel ban the China everybody in the news media excoriated him because they called him xenophobe so what else was he supposed to do especially when China is suppressing all the data we don't even really know when the very first case really was they claimed it was in October I believe it was a lot sooner than that! This was totally perpetuated by China to cause the most damage to the West because their stock market is tanking because of the tariffs that Trump is put on them! China is the real threat China deserves all the blame in this not President Trump so get your facts straight

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Mar 17, 2020 19:10:13   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
77Reaganite wrote:
No he wasn't China was slow to tell anybody first case that we knew of didn't come around until October and the CDC didn't tell Trump about it's until December 30th. January 7th President Trump bans all flights to and from China! January 30th Trump puts a travel ban on Iran, South Korea, and Italy. When he did that travel ban the China everybody in the news media excoriated him because they called him xenophobe so what else was he supposed to do especially when China is suppressing all the data we don't even really know when the very first case really was they claimed it was in October I believe it was a lot sooner than that! This was totally perpetuated by China to cause the most damage to the West because their stock market is tanking because of the tariffs that Trump is put on them! China is the real threat China deserves all the blame in this not President Trump so get your facts straight
No he wasn't China was slow to tell anybody first ... (show quote)


Yes, and China has long relied on the president’s critics in the U.S. to pick up messaging critical of the White House and push it through the domestic anti-Trump megaphone. For example, when U.S. officials started referring to COVID-19 as the “Wuhan Virus,” (a name earlier propagated by the media), the regime in Beijing objected that the term was somehow “racist.” Some on the American left — including members of the media who had used the term themselves — quickly picked up and repeated the accusation.

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Mar 17, 2020 19:12:38   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Yes, and China has long relied on the president’s critics in the U.S. to pick up messaging critical of the White House and push it through the domestic anti-Trump megaphone. For example, when U.S. officials started referring to COVID-19 as the “Wuhan Virus,” (a name earlier propagated by the media), the regime in Beijing objected that the term was somehow “racist.” Some on the American left — including members of the media who had used the term themselves — quickly picked up and repeated the accusation.
Yes, and China has long relied on the president’s ... (show quote)

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Mar 17, 2020 19:13:56   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Yes, and China has long relied on the president’s critics in the U.S. to pick up messaging critical of the White House and push it through the domestic anti-Trump megaphone. For example, when U.S. officials started referring to COVID-19 as the “Wuhan Virus,” (a name earlier propagated by the media), the regime in Beijing objected that the term was somehow “racist.” Some on the American left — including members of the media who had used the term themselves — quickly picked up and repeated the accusation.
Yes, and China has long relied on the president’s ... (show quote)


Because we have a parroting media they repeat everything the government tells them verbatim and everybody in here is to the governmental tow Line! That's why I hope after this election I hope somebody creates a different news organization in wipes out the rest of mainstream media I hope these lawsuits going through these courts put these people out of business especially CNN and MSNBC or should I say mslsd

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Mar 17, 2020 19:16:06   #
Tug484
 
77Reaganite wrote:
Because we have a parroting media they repeat everything the government tells them verbatim and everybody in here is to the governmental tow Line! That's why I hope after this election I hope somebody creates a different news organization in wipes out the rest of mainstream media I hope these lawsuits going through these courts put these people out of business especially CNN and MSNBC or should I say mslsd


Amen.

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