lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Egadsssssssssssss you are off your rocker... Did you not see the pictures Penny put up?? Who voted for those beautiful women???

rafterman Loc: South Florida

My grandfather told me that it's racist to envy or be jealous of what another group of people do or have. Growing up in the 60's, there was Miss Italian-American, Miss German-American, Miss Irish-American, Miss Asian-American et all, (plus the Asians were further refined with Miss Japanese-American, Miss Chinese-American). Essentially, there was a Miss America for every ethnic group you could think off. To my knowledge, in addition to all the ethnic "Miss Somethings", today there is also a Miss Pick-your-nose, Miss Low Tide, Miss Nebraska, Miss Connecticut, etc. So, what's the problem with Miss Black-San Antonio or Miss Black-Anywhere-USA? Or, Miss African-American or Miss Haitian-American? The question is "Why all the jealousy and envy?" It’s been my experience in 73 years that once I stopped the jealousy and envy my racist tendencies disappeared.

My grandfather was a very good teacher of life and I applied many of his teachings. There was one life learning lesson from him that has had a profound effect on my life. When I was about 12, he said (in his broken Italian) to fill up a basket with the hams, salamis, vegetables, and other food stuffs, plus go down to the basement and "getta me two jugga vino ana putta ina da back seat ofa da car". (He made his own Dago Red.)

When I got to car, the basket was in the back and he said, "Getta ina da fronta." At our destination, he said "You cumma witha me now." At the front door, he removed his hat as he rang the doorbell. The front door was opened by the biggest and blackest woman I'd ever seen.
Entering the house, my grandfather said, "My name Mike Romano. Disa my granda son. Ima knowa your husband longa time. He waza gooda man. Ima have someating fora you ana da family." He and the lady talked while me and a black boy about my age went to the car to get the basket and vino.
When I returned, I heard him tell the lady that he was a barber and to have all the males in her family to, "Comea toa da shoppa tomorrow ana I cutta alla da hair ana I no charge." They conversed for a few more minutes before we left.
As we drove home, the only words he said where "Tomorrow youa comea witha me toa da shoppa. Youa gonna helpa me."
The next day about 15 male family members (ranging in age from about 12 to 60) were waiting for us to arrive. My grandfather cut their hair without charge and made small talk about the man who died.
That day, I learned from Grandpa that there is no room in my life for racism. It was a good lesson I applied during my 20-year Navy career (well my entire life actually).
Going through life, it has become more and more apparent to me that jealousy and envy lead to hate, something that has infested and diseased our politics, and therefore how we view and interact with each other. It isn't realistic to think all hate will be eliminated; however, our country would be an even better place if there was much less of it.
Being jealous and envious of what others have or how they got it is a useless. If I want what others have, I work for it or hope I get it gifted to me (which occasionally happens).
One of the saddest days in my life was when I was 18, my grandfather died. I smile and feel good when I think of him, and I hope he would be proud knowing that I still apply the many lesson in life in taught me. Grandpa never sat me down to say he was going to teach me a life lesson. He lived what I learned from him. Sadly, for the younger generation of today, there is a lack of national leaders (in politics, sports, Hollywood, etc.), as well as local communities, whose actions and behavior they can learn from.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

you always do, I wouldn't have it any other way WCS

Everyone votes in their self interests, regardless of any BS saying otherwise....one has to have skin in the game to give a rats ass....everybody, every fringe gathering on both sides votes in their own interest.....don't you? everybody wants something.

Liberals are more apt to bow to the pressures of a minority group( not color) want, at least until they get the vote....and give the man a fish for the day, or every day.

Conservative would prefer to teach that man to fish, so he can fish for himself.

Pariahjf

TOTALLY CORRECT....

Pariahjf

Now let's look at the ENTIRE list of Miss America winners from the beginning, and what do you see? I don't see the entire spectrum of America represented there, AND not in representative percentages, either. That's the point I am trying to make, but you're missing it.

Pariahjf

AND----my last post on this for the day. Other topics to look at now.

American Vet

No - you're trying to make a racist point - and it isn't there.

The Miss America first contest was 1921. Things have changed since then - you just seem to not recognize that.

American Vet

Out in the country, we cll that "tuck tail and run"......

Pariahjf

Yes, things have changed, and I DO recognize that. Why won't anyone break down the percentages? Are you afraid of what you'll find as being true. And you know what they say: "....the more things change, the more they remain the same...."

rafterman Loc: South Florida

Yes, that would place a lot of pressure on the black community (as well as the Hispanic and Asians) to not cry racism if there were a contest for Whites only. But, for the immediate future, I don't see a White only ANYTHING happening because of the outrage it would cause. I think Whites, like myself, just don't want to put up with and don't think it's worth, all the jealousy, envy and hate that would result from such an endeavor. The thought of how race enters everything in our lives is sometimes overwhelming and something as a society we may never have the answer for.
There has always been an emphasis and finger pointing on Whites and how they deal with their racism. This is usually been a huge talking point by the MSM and intensified by our Black and Hispanic leaders. (When was the last time you heard a White politician get up in Congress and call for equal rights for Whites?). The question is, will there ever be a time when other ethnic groups will be vilified, disparaged or libeled for their jealousy, envy and hate towards Whites as Whites have toward other ethnic groups? I don’t see that happening before I die.

American Vet

You feel free to break down the percentage all you want - unless there is a quota of some sort, it doesn't mean much.

But I will help you a bit. Here is some info from the 2019 Miss America Pageant based on what I observed: (I forced myself to look at all the photos). Again, this is based on their 'appearance'....

51 contestants

6 were African American

2 were Oriental

1 was of India/Pakistan/MidEast heritage.

Is that diverse enough for you?

bylm1-Bernie

Maybe you should ask them.

Pariahjf

Of course it is. That's for ONE year, and no Hispanics were on the list.

bylm1-Bernie

I think you're being argumentative now, Pariah.

Pariahjf

Numbers don't lie. Thank you.