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Feb 27, 2020 15:19:35   #
Lonewolf
 
jimpack123 wrote:
Again what if the Electoral College did not vote yet? in theory they could vote for anyone.


I think it would call for another election as he was never president

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Feb 27, 2020 16:17:13   #
Sicilianthing
 
American Vet wrote:
Question:

What happens if the President Elect dies after the election but before being sworn in January 20?

PS: I know - just wanting to start conversation...


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the Zionist Pig loving Rat Pence will take over and then probably get whacked by a mad man, Good Riddance !

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Feb 27, 2020 16:47:33   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
[quote=jimpack123]yes the VP does become President, if after the electoral college votes, if before I don't know that would be the grey area.[/quote

So the VP elect would be sworn in as president on inauguration day? Interesting. I'm wondering if the president elect dies before the electoral college vote; would the electoral college vote for the other candidate?

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Feb 27, 2020 18:03:04   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
[quote=nwtk2007][quote=jimpack123]yes the VP does become President, if after the electoral college votes, if before I don't know that would be the grey area.[/quote

So the VP elect would be sworn in as president on inauguration day? Interesting. I'm wondering if the president elect dies before the electoral college vote; would the electoral college vote for the other candidate?[/quote]

I believe that they could vote for anyone it is a gray area as not all states have the same rule

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Feb 28, 2020 05:55:42   #
Idaho
 
Logic suggests that the current VP becomes President on the expiry of the current President’s term. The current President is not eligible to carry on. To remove him would require an impeachment and conviction. The VP elect is nothing without the President elect.

That’s my vote. If there is a ‘right’ answer I’ll be interested in hearing it. You can bank on this already being a settled question.

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Feb 28, 2020 06:03:21   #
American Vet
 
jimpack123 wrote:
American Vet what happens in your opinion if the President elect dies before the Electoral college votes?


I looked at several articles, etc: This one seems to sum it up quite well. Bottom line: It's a grey area....


Before The Electoral College Has Met
If the president-elect dies between Election Day in November and the official Electoral College vote, things get a bit complicated.
Quite a few states — including Arizona, Arkansas, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and West Virginia — do not have laws binding their electors, which means that in the event that the president-elect dies, those electors could cast their vote for someone else.
As far as the 29 remaining states (plus Washington, D.C.) are concerned, federal law does not dictate that they must continue to cast their vote for the deceased president-elect. Nor does it say that these 29 states must vote for the vice president-elect in the president-elect’s stead. Technically, these electors could vote for whomever they wanted — and that’s where some serious questions arise.

As legal scholar Richard Pildes told The Washington Post, in this circumstance “the issue is how an elector should or can cast their vote. Should the elector vote for the dead winner of the election, if the elector otherwise would be obligated to do so? Should he or she vote for the vice-presidential candidate of that party instead? How would these votes be tallied in Congress?”
If that sounds muddy, that’s because it is — and thankfully, this has only happened once in history before. In 1872, Republican candidate Horace Greeley died after the general election but before the meeting of the electors. The electors slated to vote for Greeley ended up splitting their votes up between four Republican presidential hopefuls and eight vice president candidates. Some even voted for Greeley, despite his condition.
Unfortunately for “Zombie” Greeley, the House passed a resolution that discounted Greeley’s posthumous support. His opponent, Ulysses S. Grant, who had already won the popular vote in a landslide as well, ventured on to the White House.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/president-elect-die

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Feb 28, 2020 07:30:31   #
PJT
 
In these crazy times Pelosi and her hateful bunch would attempt anything to get control.

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Feb 28, 2020 09:08:46   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
American Vet wrote:
I looked at several articles, etc: This one seems to sum it up quite well. Bottom line: It's a grey area....


Before The Electoral College Has Met
If the president-elect dies between Election Day in November and the official Electoral College vote, things get a bit complicated.
Quite a few states — including Arizona, Arkansas, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and West Virginia — do not have laws binding their electors, which means that in the event that the president-elect dies, those electors could cast their vote for someone else.
As far as the 29 remaining states (plus Washington, D.C.) are concerned, federal law does not dictate that they must continue to cast their vote for the deceased president-elect. Nor does it say that these 29 states must vote for the vice president-elect in the president-elect’s stead. Technically, these electors could vote for whomever they wanted — and that’s where some serious questions arise.

As legal scholar Richard Pildes told The Washington Post, in this circumstance “the issue is how an elector should or can cast their vote. Should the elector vote for the dead winner of the election, if the elector otherwise would be obligated to do so? Should he or she vote for the vice-presidential candidate of that party instead? How would these votes be tallied in Congress?”
If that sounds muddy, that’s because it is — and thankfully, this has only happened once in history before. In 1872, Republican candidate Horace Greeley died after the general election but before the meeting of the electors. The electors slated to vote for Greeley ended up splitting their votes up between four Republican presidential hopefuls and eight vice president candidates. Some even voted for Greeley, despite his condition.
Unfortunately for “Zombie” Greeley, the House passed a resolution that discounted Greeley’s posthumous support. His opponent, Ulysses S. Grant, who had already won the popular vote in a landslide as well, ventured on to the White House.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/president-elect-die
I looked at several articles, etc: This one seems ... (show quote)

yes I read that also but not good at copy and paste. The glue gets stuck to my fingers lol. Lets hope that this never happens again.

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Feb 28, 2020 13:10:52   #
Kazudy
 
American Vet wrote:
Question:

What happens if the President Elect dies after the election but before being sworn in January 20?

PS: I know - just wanting to start conversation...


That is guaranteed to happen if Hillary is the V.P.

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Feb 28, 2020 13:26:20   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Kazudy wrote:
That is guaranteed to happen if Hillary is the V.P.


Kazudy you must not have read the posts read all of the posts before throwing out baseless comments as it would not pertain to the VP period

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Feb 28, 2020 13:50:33   #
Radiance3
 
American Vet wrote:
Question:

What happens if the President Elect dies after the election but before being sworn in January 20?

PS: I know - just wanting to start conversation...


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Presidential line of succession. When president dies, impeached, removed, or vacate for health reasons.
Article II, Section 1, Clause 6, as well as the 12th Amendment, 20th Amendment, and 25th Amendment. The vice president of the United States is designated as first in the presidential line of succession by the Article II succession clause, which also authorizes Congress to provide for a line of succession beyond the vice president; The current Presidential Succession Act was adopted in 1947, and last revised in 2006.
Here are the the line of succession.
1. Vice president takes over, until the term of the president expires, or when not able,
2. The Speaker of the House, until the term of the president expires, or when not able,
3. The President Pro Tempore of the Senate, until the term of the president expires.

Note that in the absence of the VP who took over the President's seat, the Senate president Pro-tempor acts the rule of the VP. However, the President Pro Tempore is also given role in the line of presidential succession.

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Feb 28, 2020 13:54:32   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Presidential line of succession. When president dies, impeached, removed, or vacate for health reasons.
Article II, Section 1, Clause 6, as well as the 12th Amendment, 20th Amendment, and 25th Amendment. The vice president of the United States is designated as first in the presidential line of succession by the Article II succession clause, which also authorizes Congress to provide for a line of succession beyond the vice president; The current Presidential Succession Act was adopted in 1947, and last revised in 2006.
Here are the the line of succession.
1. Vice president takes over, until the term of the president expires, or when not able,
2. The Speaker of the House, until the term of the president expires, or when not able,
3. The President Pro Tempore of the Senate, until the term of the president expires.

Note that in the absence of the VP who took over the President's seat, the Senate president Pro-tempor acts the rule of the VP. However, the President Pro Tempore is also given role in the line of presidential succession.
================= br i Presidential line of succe... (show quote)


But this is about the president elect dying before the electoral college has voted. Different!

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Feb 28, 2020 13:56:09   #
Radiance3
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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the Zionist Pig loving Rat Pence will take over and then probably get whacked by a mad man, Good Riddance !


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If a winning Presidential candidate dies or becomes incapacitated between the counting of electoral votes in the Congress and the inauguration, the Vice President elect will become President, according to Section 3 of the 20th Amendment.

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Feb 28, 2020 13:58:30   #
Radiance3
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
But this is about the president elect dying before the electoral college has voted. Different!

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Please refer to this:
If a winning Presidential candidate dies or becomes incapacitated between the counting of electoral votes in the Congress and the inauguration, the Vice President elect will become President, according to Section 3 of the 20th Amendment.

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Feb 28, 2020 14:03:44   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Please refer to this:
If a winning Presidential candidate dies or becomes incapacitated between the counting of electoral votes in the Congress and the inauguration, the Vice President elect will become President, according to Section 3 of the 20th Amendment.


Yes but, what if the electoral college doesn't want to vote for the VP-elect??

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