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Feb 13, 2020 19:02:34   #
Mikeyavelli
 
kemmer wrote:
Ah, right. His shoe lifts.


😉

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Feb 13, 2020 19:03:12   #
Mikeyavelli
 
kemmer wrote:
Vindman got a standing ovation at a rally last week. Not to worry about Vindman.


Prison orientation?

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Feb 13, 2020 20:52:19   #
kemmer
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Prison orientation?

Hahaha... Why don’t you forget Vindman because nothing’s going to happen to him, and go back to bleating about putting Comey And Brennan in jail.

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Feb 13, 2020 22:29:49   #
Mikeyavelli
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahaha... Why don’t you forget Vindman because nothing’s going to happen to him, and go back to bleating about putting Comey And Brennan in jail.


Honestly, ain't nuthin gonna happen to them either.
Not with Attorney General Bush Boy Barr as top cop.

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Feb 13, 2020 23:35:02   #
rafterman Loc: South Florida
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Honestly, ain't nuthin gonna happen to them either.
Not with Attorney General Bush Boy Barr as top cop.


“We teach them: don’t follow an illegal order,” Kelly said. “And if you’re ever given one, you’ll raise it to whoever gives it to you that this is an illegal order, and then tell your boss.” See: https://tinyurl.com/Illegal-Order from Americanmilitarynews.com in an article "Gen. John Kelly: Vindman ‘did exactly what we teach;’ was right to testify in Trump impeachment".

The problem I have here is - What was Trumps order that was illegal that he gave to Vindman? Did he (Vindman) actually confront Trump identifying it as an illegal order? AND, who is Vindman's boss that he raised it with? If Gen Kelly is correct, Vindman didn't even follow established procedures.

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Feb 13, 2020 23:57:16   #
Mikeyavelli
 
rafterman wrote:
“We teach them: don’t follow an illegal order,” Kelly said. “And if you’re ever given one, you’ll raise it to whoever gives it to you that this is an illegal order, and then tell your boss.” See: https://tinyurl.com/Illegal-Order from Americanmilitarynews.com in an article "Gen. John Kelly: Vindman ‘did exactly what we teach;’ was right to testify in Trump impeachment".

The problem I have here is - What was Trumps order that was illegal that he gave to Vindman? Did he (Vindman) actually confront Trump identifying it as an illegal order? AND, who is Vindman's boss that he raised it with? If Gen Kelly is correct, Vindman didn't even follow established procedures.
“We teach them: don’t follow an illegal order,” Ke... (show quote)


Adam Schiff is Benedict Arnold Vindman's boss.

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Feb 14, 2020 00:47:35   #
kemmer
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Adam Schiff is Benedict Arnold Vindman's boss.


Cute.

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Feb 14, 2020 11:59:31   #
promilitary
 
debeda wrote:
My understanding is that military officers are required to be nonpartisan.



Not just officers. Or that's the way it used to be. When I was a sergeant in the Army it
was understood that the only time we could be non partisan was when we voted.

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Feb 14, 2020 12:00:20   #
promilitary
 
BigMike wrote:
Yes. Insubordination. Period. Easy.



Leave it up to the military.....but definitely never to come near the White House again.

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Feb 14, 2020 12:11:25   #
kemmer
 
promilitary wrote:
....but definitely never to come near the White House again.

That’s what most of the WH staff think first thing in the morning.

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Feb 14, 2020 12:47:27   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Honestly, ain't nuthin gonna happen to them either.
Not with Attorney General Bush Boy Barr as top cop.


Trump changes people like I change sox. Each for a specific purpose, then he gets someone else. I'm not making a judgment until the 31st of next month.

Then we'll see what Barr has to say.

I see theater in all this. On one hand Giuliani who really has the goods and on the other, people like Fitton yelling publicly about how screwed this has all been but privately, despite all the opposition, making big legal inroads.

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Feb 14, 2020 12:51:07   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
kemmer wrote:
That’s what most of the WH staff think first thing in the morning.


Dude! Is projection the best you can do?

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Feb 14, 2020 12:53:28   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
promilitary wrote:
Leave it up to the military.....but definitely never to come near the White House again.


Yes...a lot of these people don't need to be locked up so much as not let NEAR employment by the government or lobbying the government.

Not saying that's the case with Vindman.

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Feb 14, 2020 13:00:45   #
kemmer
 
BigMike wrote:
Trump changes people like I change sox. Each for a specific purpose, then he gets someone else. I'm not making a judgment until the 31st of next month.

Trump wishes this was like Kim Jung Un Land, where anyone saying anything against him would be taken out and shot.
Quote:
On one hand Giuliani who really has the goods

If Giuliani knows what’s good for him, he’ll keep his mouth shut and drop out of sight.

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Feb 14, 2020 13:01:54   #
Mikeyavelli
 
BigMike wrote:
Trump changes people like I change sox. Each for a specific purpose, then he gets someone else. I'm not making a judgment until the 31st of next month.

Then we'll see what Barr has to say.

I see theater in all this. On one hand Giuliani who really has the goods and on the other, people like Fitton yelling publicly about how screwed this has all been but privately, despite all the opposition, making big legal inroads.


I see no legal in roads being made by Barr. In fact, Tom Fitton is criticizing Barr for his lack of action and his inability to reign in his traitorous justice Department.
Trump needs to appoint Tom Fitton as Attorney General, then we'll see justice.

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