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Feb 12, 2020 19:01:46   #
rafterman Loc: South Florida
 
Will Lt. Col. Vindman be punished? Here’s what Trump said
Army Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman, Director for European Affairs at the National Security Council, arrives at a closed session before the House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight committees on October 29, 2019, at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C. (Alex Wong/Getty Images/TNS)
February 12, 2020 Ryan Morgan

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Lt. Col. Vindman is a disgrace to the uniform and should be punished severely.

United States Army Lt. Col Alexander Vindman’s fallout with the Trump administration may not have ended with his removal last week from the White House National Security Council (NSC).

President Donald Trump suggested on Tuesday that the Pentagon may consider further disciplinary action against Vindman, after Vindman testified for Democratic lawmakers working to impeach Trump, Fox News reported. Trump removed Vindman from the NSC on Friday and the officer is expected to be reassigned back to the Pentagon.

Asked by reporters if he favored disciplinary actions against Vindman, Trump said he would allow the military to “handle him any way they want” before adding that he expected commanders would provide some form of review of Vindman’s conduct.

“That’s going to be up the military,” Trump said. “We’ll have to see. They are certainly, I imagine, going to take a look at that.”

In a Saturday tweet, Trump claimed Vindman’s conduct within the NSC had concerned his direct superior, and Trump alleged Vindman had “problems with judgement [sic], adhering to the chain of command and leaking information.”
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In November, Vindman testified that he felt Trump had acted “inappropriately” in a July phone call with the Ukrainian president. Vindman’s testimony helped advance Democratic allegations Trump pressured Ukraine to take up politically motivated investigations of former Vice President Joe Biden.

Trump was acquitted of the impeachment charges by the Senate. Vindman’s removal from the White House came just days later. Critics of the decision quickly characterized Vindman’s removal as an act of retaliation by Trump.

On Monday, Democratic Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer called for 74 federal investigators general to investigate Vindman’s removal.

Schumer said the firing was part of a “growing pattern of retaliation against those who report wrongdoing only to find themselves targeted by the President and subjected to his wrath and vindictiveness.”

National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien said Vindman’s removal was not retaliation, though Vindman’s twin brother Lt. Col. Yevgeny Vindman, who was also on the NSC, was also removed.

O’Brien’s characterized the firings as part of a broader effort to shrink the NSC, and on Monday O’Brien approved the firing of some 70 more NSC staffers, according to the Washington Examiner.

Ahead of Vindman’s removal from the White House, Defense Secretary Mark Esper also laid out assurances that the Pentagon would protect its service members from retaliation.

“We welcome back all of our service members wherever they served, to any assignment they are given,” Esper said.

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Feb 12, 2020 19:13:27   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rafterman wrote:
Will Lt. Col. Vindman be punished? Here’s what Trump said
Army Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman, Director for European Affairs at the National Security Council, arrives at a closed session before the House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight committees on October 29, 2019, at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C. (Alex Wong/Getty Images/TNS)
February 12, 2020 Ryan Morgan

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Lt. Col. Vindman is a disgrace to the uniform and should be punished severely.

United States Army Lt. Col Alexander Vindman’s fallout with the Trump administration may not have ended with his removal last week from the White House National Security Council (NSC).

President Donald Trump suggested on Tuesday that the Pentagon may consider further disciplinary action against Vindman, after Vindman testified for Democratic lawmakers working to impeach Trump, Fox News reported. Trump removed Vindman from the NSC on Friday and the officer is expected to be reassigned back to the Pentagon.

Asked by reporters if he favored disciplinary actions against Vindman, Trump said he would allow the military to “handle him any way they want” before adding that he expected commanders would provide some form of review of Vindman’s conduct.

“That’s going to be up the military,” Trump said. “We’ll have to see. They are certainly, I imagine, going to take a look at that.”

In a Saturday tweet, Trump claimed Vindman’s conduct within the NSC had concerned his direct superior, and Trump alleged Vindman had “problems with judgement [sic], adhering to the chain of command and leaking information.”
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In November, Vindman testified that he felt Trump had acted “inappropriately” in a July phone call with the Ukrainian president. Vindman’s testimony helped advance Democratic allegations Trump pressured Ukraine to take up politically motivated investigations of former Vice President Joe Biden.

Trump was acquitted of the impeachment charges by the Senate. Vindman’s removal from the White House came just days later. Critics of the decision quickly characterized Vindman’s removal as an act of retaliation by Trump.

On Monday, Democratic Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer called for 74 federal investigators general to investigate Vindman’s removal.

Schumer said the firing was part of a “growing pattern of retaliation against those who report wrongdoing only to find themselves targeted by the President and subjected to his wrath and vindictiveness.”

National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien said Vindman’s removal was not retaliation, though Vindman’s twin brother Lt. Col. Yevgeny Vindman, who was also on the NSC, was also removed.

O’Brien’s characterized the firings as part of a broader effort to shrink the NSC, and on Monday O’Brien approved the firing of some 70 more NSC staffers, according to the Washington Examiner.

Ahead of Vindman’s removal from the White House, Defense Secretary Mark Esper also laid out assurances that the Pentagon would protect its service members from retaliation.

“We welcome back all of our service members wherever they served, to any assignment they are given,” Esper said.
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Yes. Insubordination. Period. Easy.

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Feb 12, 2020 19:22:40   #
debeda
 
rafterman wrote:
Will Lt. Col. Vindman be punished? Here’s what Trump said
Army Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman, Director for European Affairs at the National Security Council, arrives at a closed session before the House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight committees on October 29, 2019, at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C. (Alex Wong/Getty Images/TNS)
February 12, 2020 Ryan Morgan

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Lt. Col. Vindman is a disgrace to the uniform and should be punished severely.

United States Army Lt. Col Alexander Vindman’s fallout with the Trump administration may not have ended with his removal last week from the White House National Security Council (NSC).

President Donald Trump suggested on Tuesday that the Pentagon may consider further disciplinary action against Vindman, after Vindman testified for Democratic lawmakers working to impeach Trump, Fox News reported. Trump removed Vindman from the NSC on Friday and the officer is expected to be reassigned back to the Pentagon.

Asked by reporters if he favored disciplinary actions against Vindman, Trump said he would allow the military to “handle him any way they want” before adding that he expected commanders would provide some form of review of Vindman’s conduct.

“That’s going to be up the military,” Trump said. “We’ll have to see. They are certainly, I imagine, going to take a look at that.”

In a Saturday tweet, Trump claimed Vindman’s conduct within the NSC had concerned his direct superior, and Trump alleged Vindman had “problems with judgement [sic], adhering to the chain of command and leaking information.”
- ADVERTISEMENT -

In November, Vindman testified that he felt Trump had acted “inappropriately” in a July phone call with the Ukrainian president. Vindman’s testimony helped advance Democratic allegations Trump pressured Ukraine to take up politically motivated investigations of former Vice President Joe Biden.

Trump was acquitted of the impeachment charges by the Senate. Vindman’s removal from the White House came just days later. Critics of the decision quickly characterized Vindman’s removal as an act of retaliation by Trump.

On Monday, Democratic Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer called for 74 federal investigators general to investigate Vindman’s removal.

Schumer said the firing was part of a “growing pattern of retaliation against those who report wrongdoing only to find themselves targeted by the President and subjected to his wrath and vindictiveness.”

National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien said Vindman’s removal was not retaliation, though Vindman’s twin brother Lt. Col. Yevgeny Vindman, who was also on the NSC, was also removed.

O’Brien’s characterized the firings as part of a broader effort to shrink the NSC, and on Monday O’Brien approved the firing of some 70 more NSC staffers, according to the Washington Examiner.

Ahead of Vindman’s removal from the White House, Defense Secretary Mark Esper also laid out assurances that the Pentagon would protect its service members from retaliation.

“We welcome back all of our service members wherever they served, to any assignment they are given,” Esper said.
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My understanding is that military officers are required to be nonpartisan.

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Feb 12, 2020 19:45:42   #
Mikeyavelli
 
debeda wrote:
My understanding is that military officers are required to be nonpartisan.


They should arrest Benedict Arnold Vindman at 4AM, Mueller style. I'd love it.

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Feb 12, 2020 19:48:50   #
debeda
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
They should arrest Benedict Arnold Vindman at 4AM, Mueller style. I'd love it.


Yep. That was absolutely shameful the expensive show the FBI put on for CNN with Roger Stone. All that for a little old man and his deaf wife

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Feb 12, 2020 19:57:55   #
Hug
 
He should face a court martial and sent to Levenworth.

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Feb 12, 2020 19:59:27   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
debeda wrote:
My understanding is that military officers are required to be nonpartisan.


And to keep their mouths shut outside of the chain of command. As a Seaman Recruit I understood that necessity.

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Feb 12, 2020 20:00:25   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
They should arrest Benedict Arnold Vindman at 4AM, Mueller style. I'd love it.


He will be court martialed. Never fear!

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Feb 12, 2020 20:01:22   #
debeda
 
BigMike wrote:
And to keep their mouths shut outside of the chain of command. As a Seaman Recruit I understood that necessity.



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Feb 12, 2020 20:07:11   #
Hug
 
BigMike wrote:
He will be court martialed. Never fear!


Yes, he should be court martial, but don't look for that to happen

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Feb 12, 2020 20:12:44   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
rafterman wrote:
Will Lt. Col. Vindman be punished? Here’s what Trump said
Army Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman, Director for European Affairs at the National Security Council, arrives at a closed session before the House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight committees on October 29, 2019, at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C. (Alex Wong/Getty Images/TNS)
February 12, 2020 Ryan Morgan

view the below at: https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/02/will-lt-col-vindman-be-punished-heres-what-trump-said/?utm_campaign=DailyEmails&utm_source=AM_Email&utm_medium=email

Lt. Col. Vindman is a disgrace to the uniform and should be punished severely.

United States Army Lt. Col Alexander Vindman’s fallout with the Trump administration may not have ended with his removal last week from the White House National Security Council (NSC).

President Donald Trump suggested on Tuesday that the Pentagon may consider further disciplinary action against Vindman, after Vindman testified for Democratic lawmakers working to impeach Trump, Fox News reported. Trump removed Vindman from the NSC on Friday and the officer is expected to be reassigned back to the Pentagon.

Asked by reporters if he favored disciplinary actions against Vindman, Trump said he would allow the military to “handle him any way they want” before adding that he expected commanders would provide some form of review of Vindman’s conduct.

“That’s going to be up the military,” Trump said. “We’ll have to see. They are certainly, I imagine, going to take a look at that.”

In a Saturday tweet, Trump claimed Vindman’s conduct within the NSC had concerned his direct superior, and Trump alleged Vindman had “problems with judgement [sic], adhering to the chain of command and leaking information.”
- ADVERTISEMENT -

In November, Vindman testified that he felt Trump had acted “inappropriately” in a July phone call with the Ukrainian president. Vindman’s testimony helped advance Democratic allegations Trump pressured Ukraine to take up politically motivated investigations of former Vice President Joe Biden.

Trump was acquitted of the impeachment charges by the Senate. Vindman’s removal from the White House came just days later. Critics of the decision quickly characterized Vindman’s removal as an act of retaliation by Trump.

On Monday, Democratic Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer called for 74 federal investigators general to investigate Vindman’s removal.

Schumer said the firing was part of a “growing pattern of retaliation against those who report wrongdoing only to find themselves targeted by the President and subjected to his wrath and vindictiveness.”

National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien said Vindman’s removal was not retaliation, though Vindman’s twin brother Lt. Col. Yevgeny Vindman, who was also on the NSC, was also removed.

O’Brien’s characterized the firings as part of a broader effort to shrink the NSC, and on Monday O’Brien approved the firing of some 70 more NSC staffers, according to the Washington Examiner.

Ahead of Vindman’s removal from the White House, Defense Secretary Mark Esper also laid out assurances that the Pentagon would protect its service members from retaliation.

“We welcome back all of our service members wherever they served, to any assignment they are given,” Esper said.
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He should be given a metal for having the balls to speak up... trump should be given what ever is appropriate for his fearsome fight to avoid STD in New York which he insists is the same as going to Vietnam.. the bastard..

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Feb 12, 2020 20:17:27   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
rafterman wrote:
Will Lt. Col. Vindman be punished? Here’s what Trump said
Army Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman, Director for European Affairs at the National Security Council, arrives at a closed session before the House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight committees on October 29, 2019, at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C. (Alex Wong/Getty Images/TNS)
February 12, 2020 Ryan Morgan

view the below at: https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/02/will-lt-col-vindman-be-punished-heres-what-trump-said/?utm_campaign=DailyEmails&utm_source=AM_Email&utm_medium=email

Lt. Col. Vindman is a disgrace to the uniform and should be punished severely.

United States Army Lt. Col Alexander Vindman’s fallout with the Trump administration may not have ended with his removal last week from the White House National Security Council (NSC).

President Donald Trump suggested on Tuesday that the Pentagon may consider further disciplinary action against Vindman, after Vindman testified for Democratic lawmakers working to impeach Trump, Fox News reported. Trump removed Vindman from the NSC on Friday and the officer is expected to be reassigned back to the Pentagon.

Asked by reporters if he favored disciplinary actions against Vindman, Trump said he would allow the military to “handle him any way they want” before adding that he expected commanders would provide some form of review of Vindman’s conduct.

“That’s going to be up the military,” Trump said. “We’ll have to see. They are certainly, I imagine, going to take a look at that.”

In a Saturday tweet, Trump claimed Vindman’s conduct within the NSC had concerned his direct superior, and Trump alleged Vindman had “problems with judgement [sic], adhering to the chain of command and leaking information.”
- ADVERTISEMENT -

In November, Vindman testified that he felt Trump had acted “inappropriately” in a July phone call with the Ukrainian president. Vindman’s testimony helped advance Democratic allegations Trump pressured Ukraine to take up politically motivated investigations of former Vice President Joe Biden.

Trump was acquitted of the impeachment charges by the Senate. Vindman’s removal from the White House came just days later. Critics of the decision quickly characterized Vindman’s removal as an act of retaliation by Trump.

On Monday, Democratic Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer called for 74 federal investigators general to investigate Vindman’s removal.

Schumer said the firing was part of a “growing pattern of retaliation against those who report wrongdoing only to find themselves targeted by the President and subjected to his wrath and vindictiveness.”

National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien said Vindman’s removal was not retaliation, though Vindman’s twin brother Lt. Col. Yevgeny Vindman, who was also on the NSC, was also removed.

O’Brien’s characterized the firings as part of a broader effort to shrink the NSC, and on Monday O’Brien approved the firing of some 70 more NSC staffers, according to the Washington Examiner.

Ahead of Vindman’s removal from the White House, Defense Secretary Mark Esper also laid out assurances that the Pentagon would protect its service members from retaliation.

“We welcome back all of our service members wherever they served, to any assignment they are given,” Esper said.
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Facing a structurally similar situation in 1998 and 1999, Clinton secured not only acquittal but a clear political triumph over his adversaries — emerging from impeachment very popular even though his underlying conduct was sordid at best. Trump, by contrast, is truly skating by with underwater approval ratings and a path to reelection that’s built on Electoral College bias rather than popularity.

But while Trump’s standing remains ambiguous, impeachment and acquittal did generate a few other clear winners and losers.

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Feb 12, 2020 20:17:57   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Hug wrote:
Yes, he should be court martial, but don't look for that to happen


I will and I'm reasonably sure it will happen. I hope people realize this is not politics as usual. The perps haven't done the walk yet, but if anyone thinks this will go unanswered they're dead wrong.

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Feb 12, 2020 20:39:02   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
BigMike wrote:
Yes. Insubordination. Period. Easy.


Actually BigMike he should be charged with Conduct Unbecoming of an Officer!!!!! He should at the very least lose rank and fined severely!!!!!
Semper Fi
Mike

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Feb 12, 2020 21:05:10   #
Hug
 
BigMike wrote:
I will and I'm reasonably sure it will happen. I hope people realize this is not politics as usual. The perps haven't done the walk yet, but if anyone thinks this will go unanswered they're dead wrong.

Hope you are right.

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