jeff smith

I didn't care for hawkings and I sure didn't like or trust obumer . but I do not like or agree with the --/-/-// idiots in those pictures . that IS racist and no need for such crap in this day and age .

JW

I don't think you caught the essence of my posting. It was about hatred being directed at anyone who disagrees with you. You are the people making such a commotion about not inciting hatred, I am just curious as to why you seem so eager to escalate the level of hatred. You claim to be opposed to it yet you never miss an opportunity to promote it.

JW

Hate is hate, Kevy. Your anticipated attempt to bifurcate it is the signal essence of hypocrisy.

JW

It is vile and disgusting no matter who does it. It is even vile and disgusting if I do it which is why you will not see such hatred in my writings.

I did slip once and call someone here a moron but I felt justified since the posting I was responding to did reflect a clinical IQ somewhere around a large shoe size. Still, that would reflect disdain more than hatred but I was warned and won't repeat that infraction.

JW

No, not exactly, unless it is your position that a society has no right to a general comfort level in interpersonal actions/relations. If that is what you are proposing, what right do you have to any level of social comfort?

To deliberately provoke a segment of society by trashing their values does not fall under protected speech. It is a form of assault.

As for Doctors informing women of all of their health options, I am familiar with no limitations placed on doctors other than by their own consciences.

JW

That is pretty much how I see it too...

Hemiman Loc: Communist California

The weasel couldn’t care less,he sucks this country dry and then does nothing for it.

American Vet

That's an artificial construct - and is an assault of free speech.

American Vet

Clinics that take federal Title X family planning funding are adjusting to a new set of rules that limit what health care providers can say to their patients about abortion.

Though Planned Parenthood pulled out of the program in August rather than comply with the rules, thousands of other clinics continue to use grants from the federal program for family planning and sexual health services. These clinics are now under pressure to make sure their staff comply.

Planned Parenthood Withdraws From Title X Program Over Trump Abortion Rule
The new regulations prohibit doctors in Title X-funded primary care clinics from referring pregnant patients for abortions, and also state that health care providers cannot "perform, promote, or support abortion as a method of family planning."

Though the Department of Health and Human Services issued guidance that the regulations are not a "gag rule" and that doctors are still allowed to provide information about abortion, organizations that represent physicians are concerned that the ambiguity of the language in the rules will leave some doctors forgoing conversations about abortion entirely.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/09/09/756103421/doctors-say-federal-rules-on-discussing-abortions-inhibit-relationships-with-pat

JW

So, tell me what in the realm of human civilization is not an artificial construct - and deliberate antagonism reduces the concept of free speech to "I can say anything I want cuz my daddy is bigger than your daddy." If that is your point of view, you best get the cosmoline off of your AR 15 cuz you're gonna need it.

American Vet

Your comment about 'provoking'...I have heard of people being 'provoked' to violence by a red hat with words they didn't like.

You don't like what you hear? Ignore it.

Respecting free speech is paramount to freedom.

woodguru

You do realize that your president consistently attacks everyone and everything that disagrees with him...right? You sound severely ignorant when you accuse the other side of exactly what it is trump does in spades. Every time he opens his mouth it is to attack someone or something that disagrees with him.

American Vet

Yep, he's a fighter. For too long the Republicans have been too nice, thinking that if they are nice, the liberals will also be nice - never happened.

President Trump is a New York brawler...like I said, his election was, in essence, a revolution. Perhaps a new type of Republican who will dish ir right back to liberals.

JW

Important, yes, paramount, no. Paramount to freedom is respecting your fellow citizens. Deliberate provocation conveys the greatest possible disrespect. There is a world of difference between carrying a sign and spitting in someone's face.

JW

The bottom line is always that he who pays the Piper calls the toon. Don't take government money and say whatever you like about abortion. There are no limits on what is relayed on the subject other than those chosen by the doctor.