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Jan 19, 2020 05:47:13   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
Global warming can't be fixed by throwing money to any government. It doesn't matter if it's man made or natural causes or fake science . Only a retard would think we can fix it with money. Luckily we don't have to worry about it because the planet is starting. to go through a cooking phase. So quit worrying about something we can't cibtrol

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Jan 19, 2020 07:24:01   #
Seth
 
permafrost wrote:
Nearly the only ones clinging to the tails of trumpdom are his orange based cult members..

The proportion of Americans who are "alarmed" by global warming tripled over the last five years and is now at an all-time high, a new survey shows.

Almost 6 in 10 Americans are either "alarmed" or "concerned" by global warming, marking what researchers say is a major shift in public perception of the issue.
The survey was conducted by the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication and George Mason University's Center for Climate Change Communication, which together have tracked Americans' views on climate change since 2008.

As recently as 2014, the percentage of Americans categorized as "dismissive" of global warming was roughly the same as those who were "alarmed" -- around 11 to 12%.
But in the years since, the ranks of the "dismissive" -- those who believe global warming is not happening or caused by humans -- has fallen to just 10%.
Over the same time, the "alarmed" group -- people who are most worried about global warming and support measures to reduce heat-trapping carbon pollution -- grew to 31% of those surveyed, and today outnumber the dismissive crowd by more than 3-to-1.
The findings show that as the global climate changes rapidly, a growing proportion of Americans view the climate crisis as an actual crisis.
This new urgency felt my many Americans stands in sharp contrast to the policies of the Trump administration, which has rolled back dozens of environmental regulations, many of which were aimed at curbing climate change.

As for what could be behind the shift, Leiserowitz says there are a number of likely factors.

One, he says, is the science.
"The reports from the scientific community have become ever more dire," he said, pointing to the alarming United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 2018 report that showed the window to stem catastrophic climate change is rapidly closing as one example.
Another reason is that political leaders are talking about the issue more, and polls have shown that tackling climate change is now a top issue for many Democratic voters.
Nearly the only ones clinging to the tails of trum... (show quote)


When more than 90% of the "news" media and "education" system become a propaganda ministry for socio-political deviants, what can you expect?

A man your age posting this sort of rubbish (when we still had real journalists and an education system that educated back in our day), on a daily basis is reminiscent of the old sobriquet, "there's no fool like an old fool."

Shame on you.

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Jan 19, 2020 07:47:24   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
permafrost wrote:
Nearly the only ones clinging to the tails of trumpdom are his orange based cult members..

The proportion of Americans who are "alarmed" by global warming tripled over the last five years and is now at an all-time high, a new survey shows.

Almost 6 in 10 Americans are either "alarmed" or "concerned" by global warming, marking what researchers say is a major shift in public perception of the issue.
The survey was conducted by the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication and George Mason University's Center for Climate Change Communication, which together have tracked Americans' views on climate change since 2008.

As recently as 2014, the percentage of Americans categorized as "dismissive" of global warming was roughly the same as those who were "alarmed" -- around 11 to 12%.
But in the years since, the ranks of the "dismissive" -- those who believe global warming is not happening or caused by humans -- has fallen to just 10%.
Over the same time, the "alarmed" group -- people who are most worried about global warming and support measures to reduce heat-trapping carbon pollution -- grew to 31% of those surveyed, and today outnumber the dismissive crowd by more than 3-to-1.
The findings show that as the global climate changes rapidly, a growing proportion of Americans view the climate crisis as an actual crisis.
This new urgency felt my many Americans stands in sharp contrast to the policies of the Trump administration, which has rolled back dozens of environmental regulations, many of which were aimed at curbing climate change.

As for what could be behind the shift, Leiserowitz says there are a number of likely factors.

One, he says, is the science.
"The reports from the scientific community have become ever more dire," he said, pointing to the alarming United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 2018 report that showed the window to stem catastrophic climate change is rapidly closing as one example.
Another reason is that political leaders are talking about the issue more, and polls have shown that tackling climate change is now a top issue for many Democratic voters.
Nearly the only ones clinging to the tails of trum... (show quote)


Propaganda will do that for some~~ Nature of the beast for those whom want to use fear as leverage..

What doesn’t change is others understand the cyclic nature of evolution where ice age and warmer temps have always been and will always be~~

Step outside, perm, believe what you see, feel and know for yourself... That's what really matters.. Trends are part of the process and no matter what propaganda we are fed the world, Universe continues just as it always has .. Warmer trends are real, ice age trends are real~~ etc...

Steamboat springs couple weeks ago.. Has had over 4 ft of snow fall since the first day of winter..
Steamboat springs couple weeks ago.. Has had over ...

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Jan 19, 2020 07:55:23   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Yet another~~Here’s a wild mustang roaming the mountain side as so many do~~

How about all the severe weather from west to east as well... Winds here of 70 mph leading east.. How about Cali and snow in Dan Diego a few weeks back so much it brought half of Cali to a halt?? Look at the East Coast etcetc All natural, all cyclic when one season changes to another occurs..Some greater than past and yet not as great as previous pasts either...



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Jan 19, 2020 09:45:10   #
son of witless
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Answer to your question: "Yes! You can say and do anything you want! This is a democracy!!! (If we can preserve it)."


To repeat my fraking question. If we do everything the global Warming believers want, will it work ?

Simple question. I don't know why no one on your side seems to be able to answer it.

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Jan 19, 2020 11:27:29   #
debeda
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Global warming can't be fixed by throwing money to any government. It doesn't matter if it's man made or natural causes or fake science . Only a retard would think we can fix it with money. Luckily we don't have to worry about it because the planet is starting. to go through a cooking phase. So quit worrying about something we can't cibtrol



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Jan 19, 2020 11:29:08   #
debeda
 
son of witless wrote:
To repeat my fraking question. If we do everything the global Warming believers want, will it work ?

Simple question. I don't know why no one on your side seems to be able to answer it.


Because there are no answers. Man cannot harness nature.

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Jan 19, 2020 11:34:43   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
son of witless wrote:
To repeat my fraking question. If we do everything the global Warming believers want, will it work ?

Simple question. I don't know why no one on your side seems to be able to answer it.


Lol, let me consult the crystal ball ...

I repeat, to do nothing us idiocy.

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Jan 19, 2020 11:38:06   #
debeda
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Lol, let me consult the crystal ball ...

I repeat, to do nothing us idiocy.


What is your suggestion. Without killing billions of people of course.

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Jan 19, 2020 11:40:27   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
debeda wrote:
What is your suggestion. Without killing billions of people of course.


Consume less resources. Starting immediately. Be innovative. Sequester carbon as much as possible.

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Jan 19, 2020 11:56:01   #
debeda
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Consume less resources. Starting immediately. Be innovative. Sequester carbon as much as possible.


Sounds reasonable. Also much as the US does now. Except for the consume less part. My suggestion would be to stop manufacturing plastics, except those needed for medical devices. Would reduce carbon production from manufacturing and drastically reduce rubbish. What say you?

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Jan 19, 2020 12:31:09   #
son of witless
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Lol, let me consult the crystal ball ...

I repeat, to do nothing us idiocy.


You had better flee the scene of the crime now because as long as you stay here I will not let you off the hook. Your clowns like Occasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren, plus that little Swedish girl Greta Thunberg who thinks she knows something about global warming, are not talking about painless little baby steps, in stopping alleged Man Made Global Freaking Warming.

They are speaking of totally wrecking the US economy. Wrecking it. Lowering my standard of living and even yours'. So if we are going to lower all of our standards of living by a lot, I want some microscopic reassurance from YOU that it will not be in vain. Come on, just tell me it will work. Then tell me how you will know if it is working.

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Jan 19, 2020 12:34:24   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Orange is now the new black...,

Never have I seen such an obsessive display of consistent extremist racism!

Why are libs soooo racist toward orange people?
...not to mention that they absolutely loved George Hamilton, and he was the orangest of us all.

Quite seriously...they all call Trump orange but then claim that he is racist.

Why are progressives/Marxists/liberals such discriminating racists toward all people orange?

They are always lecturing Conservatives on racism yet continually judge a man by the color of his skin.

That major shared character default should be conquered and defeated before attempting to promote such a self-created, self-serving, factually non-existent, unscientific proposition as man-caused climate-change as a cause célèbre with the sole motive and for the sole purpose of ripping off the general public through carbon taxing, which is this combined toothless and truthless publicity campaign's only purpose and target.

Those with orange skin are in no way more reprehensible than are those with white, black, brown, yellow, or red skin, or any combination therewith.



permafrost wrote:
Nearly the only ones clinging to the tails of trumpdom are his orange based cult members..

The proportion of Americans who are "alarmed" by global warming tripled over the last five years and is now at an all-time high, a new survey shows.

Almost 6 in 10 Americans are either "alarmed" or "concerned" by global warming, marking what researchers say is a major shift in public perception of the issue.
The survey was conducted by the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication and George Mason University's Center for Climate Change Communication, which together have tracked Americans' views on climate change since 2008.

As recently as 2014, the percentage of Americans categorized as "dismissive" of global warming was roughly the same as those who were "alarmed" -- around 11 to 12%.
But in the years since, the ranks of the "dismissive" -- those who believe global warming is not happening or caused by humans -- has fallen to just 10%.
Over the same time, the "alarmed" group -- people who are most worried about global warming and support measures to reduce heat-trapping carbon pollution -- grew to 31% of those surveyed, and today outnumber the dismissive crowd by more than 3-to-1.
The findings show that as the global climate changes rapidly, a growing proportion of Americans view the climate crisis as an actual crisis.
This new urgency felt my many Americans stands in sharp contrast to the policies of the Trump administration, which has rolled back dozens of environmental regulations, many of which were aimed at curbing climate change.

As for what could be behind the shift, Leiserowitz says there are a number of likely factors.

One, he says, is the science.
"The reports from the scientific community have become ever more dire," he said, pointing to the alarming United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 2018 report that showed the window to stem catastrophic climate change is rapidly closing as one example.
Another reason is that political leaders are talking about the issue more, and polls have shown that tackling climate change is now a top issue for many Democratic voters.
Nearly the only ones clinging to the tails of trum... (show quote)

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Jan 19, 2020 12:36:34   #
debeda
 
son of witless wrote:
You had better flee the scene of the crime now because as long as you stay here I will not let you off the hook. Your clowns like Occasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren, plus that little Swedish girl Greta Thunberg who thinks she knows something about global warming, are not talking about painless little baby steps, in stopping alleged Man Made Global Freaking Warming.

They are speaking of totally wrecking the US economy. Wrecking it. Lowering my standard of living and even yours'. So if we are going to lower all of our standards of living by a lot, I want some microscopic reassurance from YOU that it will not be in vain. Come on, just tell me it will work. Then tell me how you will know if it is working.
You had better flee the scene of the crime now bec... (show quote)



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Jan 19, 2020 13:24:39   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
There is nothing one can say to the frosty kemmertoids that will change their minds about the old AGW hoax.


Y'all wanna witness some AGW alarmist obfuscation, watch Sierra Club president Mair on the SJC hot seat

The Hoax of 'Climate Change'
By Allison Nichols

Obama knows. John Kerry knows. And Al Gore, the man who has made an enormous amount of money perpetuating the biggest hoax foisted on the human race, knows. Human-inspired “climate change” is a ruse. It is all a control-grabbing, land-grabbing, money-grabbing hoax. For instance, Al Gore, the king of carbon credits, whose home has a giant carbon footprint, and who flies all over the world in private jets, has raked in millions from his green investments and "sustainability research." This, after preaching (An Inconvenient Truth) that fossil fuel is the culprit in “global warming.”

The real inconvenient truth is that the earth’s climate has been warming, cooling and dramatically changing since the beginning of time. How many of us know that Chinese sea captains reported melting ice caps as far back as 1434? Mega earthquakes and tsunamis as well as blizzards, raging fires, crippling droughts, powerful storms, horrific tornadoes and scorching heat waves have been around since antiquity. “Climate deniers,” as the alarmists so lovingly refer to us, do acknowledge changes in the climate, but most of us do not accept the premise that human activity the cause.

Recently, the hoax has been ramping up. President Obama, who has been likened to “Spock” by his climate change cheerleaders, exhorts that slow “climate change” progress can be blamed on “confused, blind, racists shrouded with hate Americans.” Obama is a far cry from a cool, rational Spock character; his cynical rhetoric continues to divide Americans and cuts off debate.

The latest forecast from the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change adds fuel to the fire. Their scare tactic is to tell us that we are "doomed.” The panel decries that carbon emissions must fall 45% by 2030. Their forecast is, of course, more poppycock emanating from liberal progressives throughout the world. And on top of that, in the Federal Climate Assessment report just issued, out has come a dire warning to Americans that climate change will negatively affect Americans physically, socially, and economically. That fact is elementary. Horrible weather does and has had severe ramifications for humans throughout the world since the beginning of time.

“Rising sea levels,” “ocean change,” and “global warming,” (now referred to as “climate change”) have become part of the vernacular despite severely flawed global warming models. However, local and global foot soldiers of the liberal progressive Socialist agenda that was hatched at the UN Brundtland Commission in 1987 continue to foster this ruse about "sustainable development," its principal buzzword. And a word to the wise, changing code words faster than the weather does not change facts.

Liberal progressives very effectively created this giant hoax. The UN and its sycophants realized, brilliantly I might add, that to continue their agenda, they would have to go beyond the Brundtland Report, and would then require the targeting of private property with oppressive regulations, had to be established on a local level first, e.g., Agenda 21. Agenda 21 is not just a toothless socialist agenda, but rather, it is a radical extremist environmentalist agenda that poses a threat to our liberties.

Recognizing that local governments (Agenda 21) are agents of change, the UN began redrafting a so-called environmental constitution. This “covenant,” as they call it, gives the UN authority over the entire globe. Unbelievably, it is being enforced despite the fact that the science behind the ruse is seriously flawed. And, history affords us the inconvenient truth that historical facts put a giant hole in their “human inspired” climate change theory.

Environmentalists have been gobbling up land with regulations based on bad science and greed for years. Consider the fact that if we get rid of fossil fuels by making them non-competitive, radical environmentalists, with their sketchy green technology, are poised to sashay in to take unprecedented control over private property and pocket billions of more dollars: “climate change” hype is a giant cash cow.

I wonder, do these environmentalists gone crazy, who have outstripped the reasoned environmentalists of the past, truly believe that carbon emissions interfere with the cycles of nature? It is audacious to think that some of us, including a hefty number of scientists (whose numbers are shrinking) believe that humans, who are tiny in the scheme of things, have a whit to do with climate changes and sea-level rises and falls. The hubris here is mind-boggling.

Even James Lovelock, whose “Gaia Hypothesis” is the founding platform for global warming hysteria, and who predicted the death of billions of humans because of it, now admits that he was an alarmist and is debunking the entire cabal. Lovelock has stated that the idea that humans are responsible for changes in the climate is not credible. Lovelock further suggested that the modern green movement has become a religion that uses guilt to gain support.

The operative question is, do “We the People” of our great nation really want to be manipulated by the UN and its minions? Do we care that the UN invasion into our country will ultimately strip away our freedoms? Do we care that “climate change” hype is a sinister means of enforcing the idea that the collective takes a front seat to individual rights?

To make matters worse, liberal progressive socialists have very effectively (as they always do…a la Saul Alinsky) demonized and dismissed the canaries in the coal mine as wacky, racist, paranoid, conspiracy theorists. Not so fast. The canaries understand that the invasion of the UN agenda, with the help of liberal progressives socialists has ushered in abuses, controls and illegal appropriations that the Constitution of the United States has warned would strip us of our liberty and freedoms.

Enough is enough. Liberal progressive scientists and politicians, not science, are dictating our carbon regulations. These modern environmental extremists have shot way past stewardship of the planet. It is up to reasoned citizens of our great country to have our voices heard.

So what can we do? The best place to have the voices heard from those of us who understand that private property is the most important guarantee of our freedoms is by taking seats on local boards and commissions. Also of importance is to determine if your city or town is a member of Agenda 21. If yes, it is up to those who understand the ramifications of that to challenge the membership.

And most importantly, although it's a monumental task, the youth of our nation who have been indoctrinated since grammar school, must come to understand that much of what they were spoon-fed in school is liberal progressive “save the planet” moral masquerading. For their own edification, our youngsters might want to hear from the canaries exactly how the hoax will affect their future. Unfortunately, many of the youth in America suffer deep scars from years and years of indoctrination. Inanition, anger, and arrogance, are some of the lingering effects of the sinister propaganda inflicted on our youth by liberal progressive socialists. But we must not give up trying.
There is nothing one can say to the frosty kemmert... (show quote)




Allison is a typical unqualified spokes person for American Thinker, one of the fish wrap media who tailor there articles to what the right wing wishes were true.. nothing at all is reliable nor notable coming from this junk media...


Allison Nichols has a M.Div. (Master of Divinity) degree.

Overall, we rate the American Thinker, Questionable based on extreme right wing bias, promotion of conspiracy theories/pseudoscience, use of poor sources and failed fact checks.



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