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Dec 22, 2019 15:47:50   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Seth wrote:
Your meme, there, doesn't seem to mention that, as we later learned, the Iranians continued their nuclear weapons development on the sly anyway, nor that all the money Obama put in their hands was used to finance terrorism all over the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa, thus destabilizing an entire region while providing tangos with ambitions to attack soft targets in CONUS with the funds they need to do so.

But that's okay, from your (the left's) perspective, attacks on U.S. soil would only add to the chaos your lot sees as necessary to the cause of "fundamentally transforming" America to the model you prefer.
Your meme, there, doesn't seem to mention that, as... (show quote)


""all the money Obama put in their hands was used to finance terrorism all over the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa,""

THIS, is a true impeachable offense!!!!!

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Dec 22, 2019 15:54:36   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
son of witless wrote:
So what ? You are one of those who thinks that is relevant. Lets us consider the Impeachment of Andrew Johnson. He was Impeached for violating the Tenure of Office Act by firing his Secretary of War. Modern historians do not consider his Impeachment a Black Mark. It is considered a travesty. My point is that Impeachment by itself is not a Black Mark.



already making amends for your orange man? it will become and orange mark..

do you feel it was irrelevant for Clinton??



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Dec 22, 2019 16:02:07   #
son of witless
 
permafrost wrote:
already making amends for your orange man? it will become and orange mark..

do you feel it was irrelevant for Clinton??


Not at all. You keep equating the Clinton and Trump Impeachments. As I have pointed out too many times, Clinton was Impeached for his perjury conviction in a court of law. My Boy President Donald Full Time Jobs. Trump has no such conviction in a court of law. Why must I continually repeat these facts to you ?

However, I am equating the Trump and Andrew Johnson Impeachments. They were both without merit political acts.

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Dec 22, 2019 16:02:36   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Strange as it may seem, son, I sorta share the opinion and fear of lowering the value of Impeachment.
without doubt, we should have been able to simply throw the orange clod in jail..

What?? You see a connection between the Noble Peace Prize and being impeached???

Call trump, his envy of the Peace Prize has near driven him nuts..




I remember that meme.....that was way back when Biden was still semi coherent and lucid on most days.

Alas, no so much these days

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Dec 22, 2019 16:03:45   #
Tug484
 
permafrost wrote:
Wont, Yes, he is impeached now and forever.. that is what congress did a few days ago.. well documented if you read any news items..

It also seems you and yours have missed a vital point.. the behavior of every president is not judged by the same bar as the general public..
We hold the president to a higher level of ethics and moral judgment then the average person walking on the street..

Yet this orange error seems to have, not now not ever, any of concepts of a good person, let alone a good statesman..

Money.. reelection.. do you have any idea where the record amount of money for his reelection is coming from??

bet you have never looked into it..

This is dated, and could not secure a date.. the amounts are greater now, big biz is not letting go easily..


https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/contributors?id=N00023864


Top Contributors, federal election data for Donald Trump, 2020 cycle
This page shows contributions grouped by contributor to the candidate's campaign committee plus any super PACs or hybrid PACs working on his or her behalf

This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2020 cycle. The money came from the organizations' PACs; their individual members, employees or owners; and those individuals' immediate families. At the federal level, the organizations themselves did not donate, as they are prohibited by law from doing so. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.

Contributor Total
GH Palmer Assoc $2,005,400
WinRed $1,770,870
America First $1,195,626
Uline Inc $1,006,612
Irving Moskowitz Foundation $1,000,000
Midland Energy $750,000
Ariel Corp $263,500
Advance Financial $254,883
Vital Pharmaceuticals $252,025
Gen Cap America $175,000
The Villages $146,776
Hamlin Capital Management $125,000
Sequoia Capital $111,200
Daniels Manufacturing $106,555
Delavaco Group
Wont, Yes, he is impeached now and forever.. that... (show quote)



It isn't an impeachment until it's sent to the Senate.
I guess main stream media hasn't made you aware of that.

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Dec 22, 2019 16:15:26   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Seth wrote:
Your meme, there, doesn't seem to mention that, as we later learned, the Iranians continued their nuclear weapons development on the sly anyway, nor that all the money Obama put in their hands was used to finance terrorism all over the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa, thus destabilizing an entire region while providing tangos with ambitions to attack soft targets in CONUS with the funds they need to do so.

But that's okay, from your (the left's) perspective, attacks on U.S. soil would only add to the chaos your lot sees as necessary to the cause of "fundamentally transforming" America to the model you prefer.
Your meme, there, doesn't seem to mention that, as... (show quote)



seth,,, such a spin... that increase in % of process was made months after trump dumped the agreement and ruined it over the objections of all the other 8 members..

It was not Obama who returned Irans money on his own, it was required by the court that we agreed to answer to. and we got a good result on the small amount of money compared to the demanded amount..

And not you, not me not anyone can possible know how and where one dollar of that return was ever used and to claim you do is simply fish wrap lies..

Fundamental transforming.. as has been posted time and again was about equal rights and equal opportunity.. and we all know that you right wingers are indeed firmly opposed to that.. so y ou hate the concept and the man..

your prattle on with the prescribed lies.. you teacher must be so proud of you.


Interview with Bill O’Reilly, Feb. 2, 2014

O’Reilly: OK. I got a letter from Kathy LaMaster, Fresno, Calif. I said I would read one letter from the folks, all right?

Obama: All right.

O’Reilly: "Mr. President, why do you feel it's necessary to fundamentally transform the nation that has afforded you so much opportunity and success?"

Obama: I don't think we have to fundamentally transform the nation.

O’Reilly: But those are your words.

Obama: I think that what we have to do is make sure that here in America, if you work hard, you can get ahead. Bill, you and I benefitted from this incredible country of ours, in part, because there were good jobs out there that paid a good wage, because you had public schools that functioned well, that we could get scholarships if we didn't come from a wealthy family, in order to go to college.

O’Reilly: Right.

Obama: That, you know, if you worked hard, not only did you have a good job, but you also had decent benefits, decent health care...

O’Reilly: They're cutting me off...

Obama: -- and for a lot of folks, we don't have that. We've got to make sure that we're doing everything we can to expand the middle class...

O’Reilly: All right...

Obama: -- and work hard and people who are working hard can get into the middle class.

O’Reilly: I think -- I -- you know, I know you think maybe we haven't been fair, but I think your heart is in the right place.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Here’s Obama’s original statement, in an October 2008 campaign visit to Columbia, Mo:

"Now, Mizzou, I just have two words for you tonight: five days. Five days. After decades of broken politics in Washington, and eight years of failed policies from George W. Bush, and 21 months of a campaign that's taken us from the rocky coast of Maine to the sunshine of California, we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.

"In five days, you can turn the page on policies that put greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street before the hard work and sacrifice of folks on Main Street. In five days, you can choose policies that invest in our middle class, and create new jobs, and grow this economy, so that everyone has a chance to succeed, not just the CEO, but the secretary and janitor, not just the factory owner, but the men and women on the factory floor."

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Dec 22, 2019 16:23:41   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
son of witless wrote:
Not at all. You keep equating the Clinton and Trump Impeachments. As I have pointed out too many times, Clinton was Impeached for his perjury conviction in a court of law. My Boy President Donald Full Time Jobs. Trump has no such conviction in a court of law. Why must I continually repeat these facts to you ?

However, I am equating the Trump and Andrew Johnson Impeachments. They were both without merit political acts.




Not sure who brought up the Clinton event, it was not me..

but to consider the basic cause, a blow job, as more dastardly then a attempt to strong arm aid from a foreign president is beyond even most right wing trolls.

trump has only escaped jail time because he used daddy's and Putin money to buy off charges..

conviction has been the defacto cause of spending millions of $$

plenty of merit to trump impeachment.. we would have even more but for the obstruction by the white house..

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Dec 22, 2019 16:25:46   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
MR Mister wrote:
You seem to have a bad time with the truth, lol. Rosie is fat!
Megyn Kelly does bleed at times. lol. I wonder if you have to use a rag at times.



You are a strange and depraved POS , you are indeed an orange cult member..



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Dec 22, 2019 16:28:33   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
""all the money Obama put in their hands was used to finance terrorism all over the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa,""

THIS, is a true impeachable offense!!!!!




and you are echoing more right wing fish wrap sheet which you have been told to do and have no concept of truth.. such a sad failing for you..



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Dec 22, 2019 16:31:09   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
I remember that meme.....that was way back when Biden was still semi coherent and lucid on most days.

Alas, no so much these days


So when was trump ever lucid...



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Dec 22, 2019 16:41:28   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
So when was trump ever lucid...



Give him some credit perm....he beat Hillary.

What size are you? I will send you a new Trump suit for Christmas Mass, have you looking like a champ bro.

Smile perm, it is a nice day out yonder sir'

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Dec 22, 2019 16:53:11   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
and you are echoing more right wing fish wrap sheet which you have been told to do and have no concept of truth.. such a sad failing for you..


I guess you think all that cash was used to fight poverty in Iran? How ludicrous!!!!

No matter what ANY court you guys claim says we had to give them all that money in cash back, Obama should not have given it back. Period! You thinking he had no choice is pure stupidity, the new hallmark of the left!!! Obama making deals with terrorists and releasing hardened terrorists was also ludicrous!!! Get real boy, your boy Obama walked hand in hand with Iran. They made him their fool!!

People died because of Obama's actions. People are still dying because of his actions. Obama allowed more innocent people to die at the hands of terrorists and radial Islamist than any other person in history.

Hate Trump all you want, but he hasn't killed innocents like his predecessors!

All you have on Trump are your lies and twisted "truths." You even lie about the things he says as if we can't hear it with our own ears! LOLOL!

I am glad y'all have impeached him, although in reality, y'all might not have! LOL! We win in 2020. Enjoy!

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Dec 22, 2019 17:02:19   #
Hug
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I guess you think all that cash was used to fight poverty in Iran? How ludicrous!!!!

No matter what ANY court you guys claim says we had to give them all that money in cash back, Obama should not have given it back. Period! You thinking he had no choice is pure stupidity, the new hallmark of the left!!! Obama making deals with terrorists and releasing hardened terrorists was also ludicrous!!! Get real boy, your boy Obama walked hand in hand with Iran. They made him their fool!!

People died because of Obama's actions. People are still dying because of his actions. Obama allowed more innocent people to die at the hands of terrorists and radial Islamist than any other person in history.

Hate Trump all you want, but he hasn't killed innocents like his predecessors!

All you have on Trump are your lies and twisted "truths." You even lie about the things he says as if we can't hear it with our own ears! LOLOL!

I am glad y'all have impeached him, although in reality, y'all might not have! LOL! We win in 2020. Enjoy!
I guess you think all that cash was used to fight ... (show quote)


According to a friend of a friend who heard a CIA agent talking, Hillary's mail was monitored by China and the result was we lost some 30 CIA agents. This is not a joke.

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Dec 22, 2019 17:29:36   #
ewaits
 
To that end you will have at least five more years to whine!!!

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Dec 22, 2019 17:42:56   #
maureenthannon
 
Bill Clinton was impeached because he committed PERJURY, a felony! What law has Trump broken? Beating Hillary after so much money and work went into getting her in the office is not a crime! Neither is not being charming.! At least he didn't have Americans killed by terrorists as BHO did! In Barka's first term, he sold guns to Mexican Drug Cartels, OPERATION FAST&FURIOUS! US border Patrol agents were killed with some of those guns, as were HUNDREDS OF MEXICANS! In his second term, BHO gave guns to Islamic Terrorist Groups in Libya, including ISIS and Al Queda to take out Libyan President Momar Ghadafi. Were those weapons
used to kill Americans in Benghazi?

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