Looks like trump just got caught in another Ukraine lie. No wonder he is impeached (Page 2): Why does anyone waste their time with this guy? He is a rabid lunitic. TDS foaming at the...

youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart

factnotfiction wrote:

You are the queen of lies, and your ignorance is boundless

Why does anyone waste their time with this guy? He is a rabid lunitic. TDS foaming at the mouth.

Radiance3

nwtk2007 wrote:

At the meeting mid July, this was the issue where it was announced the aid would be held to insure alll that you have outlined here.

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It takes a process that is why time is needed to ensure all policies are enforced and carried out.

I'd like to establish standard procedures how office policies must be complied with for control purposes. And those I've written are essential.

Only corrupt government like that of Obama does not follow standard protocol. Thus corruptions multiply.

The 2016 and earlier was so corrupt on both the US personnel engaged on Ukraine. likewise the Ukraine governance was corrupt.

From 2017, cleaning-up was required, which took time to do. The personnel involved in corruption has not been accounted yet. One of that is Joe Biden.

woodguru

factnotfiction wrote:

So while trump talking with zalensky, he was already trying to find a way to with hold the lethal aid to Ukraine.

And no doubt he would have if he hadn't got caught by someone who knew what the liar in chief was attempting to do.

Now all of the OPP trumpcons will dismiss the facts and the truth, but trump only released the aid AFTER he got caught, and that is undeniable.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/21/politics/emails-ukraine-aid-timeline/index.html

Here are a couple stories that fill in more details...fake news of course, right wingers buy into the russia Giuliani version. Other mainstream sources are covering this, but these "fake news" sources detail it well

https://www.alternet.org/2019/12/white-house-hiding-documents-revealing-officials-waved-red-flags-over-reasons-for-withholding-ukraine-aid-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3288

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-administration-officials-worried-halt-to-ukraine-aid-violated-spending-law?ref=home

Radiance3

woodguru wrote:

Here are a couple stories that fill in more detail... (show quote)

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ALL FAKE NEWS:

Here they are introducing the 2 liberal gossip outlet of the country.
The Daily Beast and the

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Daily Beast is a leftist rag. ... Daily Beast Daily Beast - Media Bias.

Both papers are LIBERAL BIASED REPORTING. ALL FAKE NEWS!!

amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle

Radiance3 wrote:

================ br ALL FAKE NEWS: br br Here the... (show quote)

Bingo!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

woodguru wrote:

Here are a couple stories that fill in more detail... (show quote)

Interesting. The reason for withholding the aid was to make sure Ukraine was working to stop corruption but the aids felt it might look like Trump was digging u dirt on a political opponent. I'm sure they forgot to write the part about Trump saying that we can't ignore corruption simply because it involves a guy who might run for president. Are we supposed to Give Biden a pass just because he's running for president??

factnotfiction

Radiance3 wrote:

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But much more truthful and accurate than any of the lies, distortions and garbage you spew with each and every idiotic post.

Talk about blind hatred and stupidity, just read your own posts

Radiance3

factnotfiction wrote:

But much more truthful and accurate than any of the lies, distortions and garbage you spew with each and every idiotic post.

Talk about blind hatred and stupidity, just read your own posts

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That is why corruptions are the SOP standard of the radical DEMS. Your brain factno needs clean-ups and tune-ups.

fullspinzoo

valkyrierider wrote:

You need to change your name Complete-Fiction As nothing you post is Fact. Obama is the one that withheld their money and on top of that it is time that we quit funding these foreign countries. How do you think that all the Senators got rich. They fund the countries and then launder part of the money back to their own accounts.

I've tried to tell him that for months now. He thinks a stupid name like his convinces people that he's all about truth, when nothing is further from the fact.

fullspinzoo

factnotfiction wrote:

So while trump talking with zalensky, he was already trying to find a way to with hold the lethal aid to Ukraine.

And no doubt he would have if he hadn't got caught by someone who knew what the liar in chief was attempting to do.

Now all of the OPP trumpcons will dismiss the facts and the truth, but trump only released the aid AFTER he got caught, and that is undeniable.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/21/politics/emails-ukraine-aid-timeline/index.html

Yeah, that's why his approval numbers are soaring and the money is JUST pouring in....when in fact not fiction both should be dropping quickly.

Wonttakeitanymore

factnotfiction wrote:

So while trump talking with zalensky, he was already trying to find a way to with hold the lethal aid to Ukraine.

And no doubt he would have if he hadn't got caught by someone who knew what the liar in chief was attempting to do.

Now all of the OPP trumpcons will dismiss the facts and the truth, but trump only released the aid AFTER he got caught, and that is undeniable.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/21/politics/emails-ukraine-aid-timeline/index.html

One word, NOT

Auntie Dee

factnotfiction wrote:

So while trump talking with zalensky, he was already trying to find a way to with hold the lethal aid to Ukraine.

And no doubt he would have if he hadn't got caught by someone who knew what the liar in chief was attempting to do.

Now all of the OPP trumpcons will dismiss the facts and the truth, but trump only released the aid AFTER he got caught, and that is undeniable.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/21/politics/emails-ukraine-aid-timeline/index.html

SO WHAT??

President Trump has FULL CONSTITUTIONAL authority over foreign policy in this country! Even if the "Inner Agencies" fail to understand that!

It was his RIGHT to withhold or delay the funds if he ALONE felt a need to do so! Perhaps when he saw that it was becoming a "political" hazard he changed his mind and decided to release the funds, perhaps after reassurances from Ukraine, he changed his mind. It doesn't matter WHY or WHEN the funds were placed on hold or released! It was President Trump's decision ALONE to make!

All of these bureaucrats from the "inner agencies" have their nose's out of joint because Trump does not always follow their advice, they are mostly Dem's too, they are the one's who are stirring up this problem and the MSM just laps it up and tries to convince the public that Trump has done something wrong!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Auntie Dee wrote:

SO WHAT?? br br President Trump has FULL CONSTIT... (show quote)

The sad part about this whole thing is that eventually there will be a democratic president again. If he/she so much as sneezes, he/she will be impeached.

Auntie Dee

nwtk2007 wrote:

The sad part about this whole thing is that eventually there will be a democratic president again. If he/she so much as sneezes, he/she will be impeached.

Actually, I don't agree with that, most Republicans are not that resentful or deceitful. But it will make any President of either party more vulnerable and less able to do his job! That is the real CRIME that is being committed here, it is making attempts to overthrow our Constitution and the laws of this country for partisan purposes...something Impeachment was never designed for or meant to be!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Auntie Dee wrote:

Actually, I don't agree with that, most Republicans are not that resentful or deceitful. But it will make any President of either party more vulnerable and less able to do his job! That is the real CRIME that is being committed here, it is making attempts to overthrow our Constitution and the laws of this country for partisan purposes...something Impeachment was never designed for or meant to be!

I hope you're right but when they try it a few more times during Trump's second term, the revenge factor definitively comes into play!!