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Dems Should Be Running On The Realities Of Fixing The Mess Donald Has Created
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Dec 21, 2019 09:18:41   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Seth wrote:
Yes, what a mess. Lowest unemployment in living memory, healthiest economy in living memory, lower taxes for the middle class, better, more competitive international trade agreements for American companies, a stronger military, a SCOTUS that follows the Constitution rather than 🎶feelings...🎵, ditto for record appointments to the federal bench, common sense prison reforms, better healthcare options for veterans, serious efforts to lower prescription drug prices that look like they will bear fruit, even if it doesn't happen until the Dems are again the House minority, promises finally kept to our Israeli allies, etc...

What you should have titled your post is "Things the Democrats Want to Return to the Mess They Were Before Trump Fixed Them."
Yes, what a mess. Lowest unemployment in living me... (show quote)


Ur a wise man Seth!!

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Dec 21, 2019 09:21:18   #
Cuda2020
 
woodguru wrote:
I did, every agency has been gutted of it's best people and missions. Regulations have been mangled such as clean water. Why does that even make any sense to tell corporations that it's okay if they pollute, they were not being crippled by not being able to pollute rivers.


How about these toxins will cause brain damage to the children first, where are all the pro-lifers on that one?

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Dec 21, 2019 09:27:52   #
Cuda2020
 
byronglimish wrote:
Of course you missed the memo, the intelligence agencies were and still are infested with lawbreakers.

For you Californians, that means the swamp creatures.


The memo, you mean Trump's personal memos, um yeah we got those. The President, who has infected his own people of the United States, to not believe in the people who have worked tirelessly and loyally to defend us... not to trust them but trust our enemies. What a GRRRREAT president.

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Dec 21, 2019 09:34:50   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
The memo, you mean Trump's personal memos, um yeah we got those. The President, who has infected his own people of the United States, to not believe in the people who have worked tirelessly and loyally to defend us... not to trust them but trust our enemies. What a GRRRREAT president.
The memo, you mean Trump's personal memos, um yeah... (show quote)



I think you've got that wrong, oh toothy one. Obama was the one who went on his apology tours to tell our enemies how sorry he was for America's standing up for herself. He's the one who gutted the military.

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Dec 21, 2019 09:35:12   #
Cuda2020
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
Ur a wise man Seth!!


Clinton did a better job, he created new jobs, moved us ahead and got us out of debt. But that didn't matter, you folks impeached him for lying over the technicalities of defining sexual relations, that's beautiful compared to the treasonous actions of today under Trump. My how things would be so different if he was a democrat, you would've already had hung him. Out of his offenses, they were being kindto him, treason should have been on the table. This great economy is bogus for the average Joe, only to the wealthy.

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Dec 21, 2019 09:43:31   #
Cuda2020
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I think you've got that wrong, oh toothy one. Obama was the one who went on his apology tours to tell our enemies how sorry he was for America's standing up for herself. He's the one who gutted the military.


No military was gutted, it was overly absorbant of our budget as it still is today, your warmongers, have us spending for them hand over fist at the expense of our education and economy, all for their self-interest and profit, and once again our boys and girls are collateral damage. Nothing has changed for the right and their continued goals, nothing since Viet Nam.

The right builds our military like they want to take over the world and FYI other countries feel it too. That's not how we build bridges.

Tell me where was the apology, word for word, what was it? Please enlighten me, oh false tongue one.

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Dec 21, 2019 09:52:50   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
No military was gutted, it was overly absorbant of our budget as it still is today, your warmongers, have us spending for them hand over fist at the expense of our education and economy, all for their self-interest and profit, and once again our boys and girls are collateral damage. Nothing has changed for the right and their continued goals, nothing since Viet Nam.

The right builds our military like they want to take over the world and FYI other countries feel it too. That's not how we build bridges.

Tell me where was the apology, word for word, what was it? Please enlighten me, oh false tongue one.
No military was gutted, it was overly absorbant of... (show quote)


Here's one for starter: https://freebeacon.com/politics/five-times-obama-has-apologized-for-america/

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Dec 21, 2019 10:05:46   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
Hey hey some of us in cally are still God fearing, Mary, Jesus earthly mom was living in a wicked town but she remained pure! With Gods help we can overcome!!


I should have clarified. "A bunch of prune pickers" not all. My apologies.

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Dec 21, 2019 10:07:58   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
The memo, you mean Trump's personal memos, um yeah we got those. The President, who has infected his own people of the United States, to not believe in the people who have worked tirelessly and loyally to defend us... not to trust them but trust our enemies. What a GRRRREAT president.
The memo, you mean Trump's personal memos, um yeah... (show quote)


You don't believe Horowitz, your lord appointed him.

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Dec 21, 2019 10:12:18   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Clinton did a better job, he created new jobs, moved us ahead and got us out of debt. But that didn't matter, you folks impeached him for lying over the technicalities of defining sexual relations, that's beautiful compared to the treasonous actions of today under Trump. My how things would be so different if he was a democrat, you would've already had hung him. Out of his offenses, they were being kindto him, treason should have been on the table. This great economy is bogus for the average Joe, only to the wealthy.
Clinton did a better job, he created new jobs, mov... (show quote)




"Technicalities over the definition of "Is, is"?

Didn't know you had a mynute sense of humor. Thanks for the laugh.

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Dec 21, 2019 10:31:26   #
American Vet
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Clinton did a better job, he created new jobs, moved us ahead and got us out of debt. But that didn't matter, you folks impeached him for lying over the technicalities of defining sexual relations, that's beautiful compared to the treasonous actions of today under Trump. My how things would be so different if he was a democrat, you would've already had hung him. Out of his offenses, they were being kindto him, treason should have been on the table. This great economy is bogus for the average Joe, only to the wealthy.
Clinton did a better job, he created new jobs, mov... (show quote)


Crack open your history book and read about "Contract with America" - then come back and talk about Clinton.

You omitted his "lying" was done under oath - no technicalities there.

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Dec 21, 2019 10:33:59   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
American Vet wrote:
Crack open your history book and read about "Contract with America" - then come back and talk about Clinton.

You omitted his "lying" was done under oath - no technicalities there.


To a Demoproggie, perjury is a small technicality.

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Dec 21, 2019 12:16:37   #
son of witless
 
woodguru wrote:
I did, every agency has been gutted of it's best people and missions. Regulations have been mangled such as clean water. Why does that even make any sense to tell corporations that it's okay if they pollute, they were not being crippled by not being able to pollute rivers.


I did not know Donald had gutted every agency. Gee he is doing far better than I knew. That man just keeps on amazing us.

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Dec 21, 2019 12:31:43   #
Seth
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
Ur a wise man Seth!!



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Dec 21, 2019 14:29:33   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
vernon wrote:
what clean water ? The only bad water I've heard about was in Flint and that was done when the dems were running it. All corporations have regulations and they are supposed to honor them. Oh I recall another one in Colorado where the govt.spilled mine sludge in think the Colorado River and the river ran yellow for 5 days. Both of these were done by demoRATS.


flint.. Gov. Snyder was a Republican...

Snyder’s role

To a significant degree, the buck does stop with Snyder, the state’s top elected official. And Snyder did set the tone of curbing municipal overspending.

"There was a lot of wishful thinking by which the tax cutters dreamed that they could keep on cutting taxes without having any real consequences," said Charles L. Ballard, an economist at Michigan State University. "But tax cuts of this magnitude, some of which were passed during the first year of Gov. Snyder’s administration, were bound to have real consequences."

Crucially, Snyder also appointed the emergency managers who signed off on the switch away from Detroit’s water system and the decision to use Flint River water as an interim solution.

And two state agencies he oversaw -- the Department of Environmental Quality and the Department of Health and Human Services -- contributed significantly to the problem.

Officials at those agencies were warned early and repeatedly by Miguel Del Toral, an official at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, that they were putting Flint residents at risk by not instituting anti-corrosion safeguards for Flint River water. Agency officials also initially dismissed warnings from Virginia Tech researchers and Flint pediatrician Mona Hanna-Attisha, even after being prodded on the question by a senior Snyder aide.

The release of the mine run off was an industrial accident.. nothing political about it..

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