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Dec 21, 2019 14:35:57   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
I am a Conservative Republican. Would you like to clarify that you think I am a scumbag? Or do you lack the courage stand behind your statement?



Oh darn Smedley... it is not her fault, my fault, anyone's fault..

but the definition of your political position world wide is "scumbag"... it is your own making, do not fault her for stating the obvious..



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Dec 21, 2019 14:39:04   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I think you've got that wrong, oh toothy one. Obama was the one who went on his apology tours to tell our enemies how sorry he was for America's standing up for herself. He's the one who gutted the military.



gee, bernie, there was no apology tour and the military was not gutted..



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Dec 21, 2019 14:52:46   #
son of witless
 
permafrost wrote:
gee, bernie, there was no apology tour and the military was not gutted..


It was not for lack of effort on the young President's part.

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Dec 21, 2019 15:15:47   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
son of witless wrote:
It was not for lack of effort on the young President's part.



Well, even the most perfect can make errors in judgement..

But never actually saying the words should count especially with the tack used by the right for so many years on so many occasions..

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Dec 21, 2019 15:23:00   #
rjoeholl
 
woodguru wrote:
The first two years if not the whole four of an administration are going to be spent focusing on the damage this administration has done to every aspect of government. Literally every agency will have to be rebuilt and structured as they try to get back to a normal functioning status. Literally every agency is going to be in disarray as a new administration that has access to documents and information on how the agencies were being run comes to light..

And before jumping to the donald's defense, keep in mind that every agency has been headed by people who are against the agencies they are put in charge of. Agency heads have been chosen by a president who has brought the lowest levels of actual experience and expertise to agencies that take seasoned and experienced people with a lifetime of large organization administration sk**ls. Agency heads have been chosen because they are against the agency they are in charge of, it was literally their job to implement their destruction if not elimination entirely. Agencies have been defunded, their best people fired or resigning in disgust of an incompetent management that didn't want them to do their jobs.

The incoming administration will be inundated with reports of corruption and crimes that need to addressed by federal prosecutors, many of the trump state and federal prosecutors will need to be replaced, far more than is typical.

But here is the benefit of running on fixing the mess trump created, it gives dems a chance to air specific things trump has screwed up by discussing what needs to be done to fix it.

Forget universal healthcare, the fight will be keeping the ACA and tuning it up over five to ten years heading it toward more and more coverage. Forget green new deals, just evolve energy the right direction, it takes decades. Run on rejecting the worst of the unqualified judges McConnell has jammed through, not all, just the most glaringly bad according to the ABA.

To hell with changing the world in one term, just work on righting this sinking ship.
The first two years if not the whole four of an ad... (show quote)


Why don't you all move to the Left Coast and start your own country. You run yours and we'll run ours; let's see who calls the other for help first. I'll make you a deal. If we call you first I'll send you $1000.00. If it's the other way around you send me $1.00. Deal?

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Dec 21, 2019 15:25:02   #
son of witless
 
permafrost wrote:
Well, even the most perfect can make errors in judgement..

But never actually saying the words should count especially with the tack used by the right for so many years on so many occasions..


No it shouldn't. If a murderer does not actually say " I am going to k**l you " right before he murders his victim, it doesn't make him any less of a murderer.

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Dec 21, 2019 16:19:11   #
Ricktloml
 
Seth wrote:
Yes, what a mess. Lowest unemployment in living memory, healthiest economy in living memory, lower taxes for the middle class, better, more competitive international trade agreements for American companies, a stronger military, a SCOTUS that follows the Constitution rather than 🎢feelings...🎡, ditto for record appointments to the federal bench, common sense prison reforms, better healthcare options for veterans, serious efforts to lower prescription drug prices that look like they will bear fruit, even if it doesn't happen until the Dems are again the House minority, promises finally kept to our Israeli allies, etc...

What you should have titled your post is "Things the Democrats Want to Return to the Mess They Were Before Trump Fixed Them."
Yes, what a mess. Lowest unemployment in living me... (show quote)



Right. How DARE President Trump try to reign in the power of un-elected, left-wing bureaucrats who think THEY are in charge, (and who are willing to lie, c***t, really do ANYTHING to hold on to that power they have accumulated over the years.) According to the Democrat/socialist Party and their counterparts the RINOs, these corrupt, power hungry institutions need to be allowed to unconstitutionally destroy the concept of government "of the people, by the people and for the people", in favor of that "fundamental t***sformation" into a banana republic police state. Well no thanks. Any harm done to government institutions has been done by the corrupt bureaucratic state that STILL wants to crush anyone who wants to hold them accountable for their s*******s misdeeds.

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Dec 21, 2019 16:26:56   #
Seth
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Right. How DARE President Trump try to reign in the power of un-elected, left-wing bureaucrats who think THEY are in charge, (and who are willing to lie, c***t, really do ANYTHING to hold on to that power they have accumulated over the years.) According to the Democrat/socialist Party and their counterparts the RINOs, these corrupt, power hungry institutions need to be allowed to unconstitutionally destroy the concept of government "of the people, by the people and for the people", in favor of that "fundamental t***sformation" into a banana republic police state. Well no thanks. Any harm done to government institutions has been done by the corrupt bureaucratic state that STILL wants to crush anyone who wants to hold them accountable for their s*******s misdeeds.
Right. How DARE President Trump try to reign in th... (show quote)


With House Democrats out of the way as of January 2021 and another four years to work with, I expect President Trump will get a whole lot of house cleaning done.

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Dec 21, 2019 16:32:08   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Right. How DARE President Trump try to reign in the power of un-elected, left-wing bureaucrats who think THEY are in charge, (and who are willing to lie, c***t, really do ANYTHING to hold on to that power they have accumulated over the years.) According to the Democrat/socialist Party and their counterparts the RINOs, these corrupt, power hungry institutions need to be allowed to unconstitutionally destroy the concept of government "of the people, by the people and for the people", in favor of that "fundamental t***sformation" into a banana republic police state. Well no thanks. Any harm done to government institutions has been done by the corrupt bureaucratic state that STILL wants to crush anyone who wants to hold them accountable for their s*******s misdeeds.
Right. How DARE President Trump try to reign in th... (show quote)



It's hard to argue with that but that won't stop the l*****ts on here from trying.

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Dec 21, 2019 16:55:25   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
woodguru wrote:
The first two years if not the whole four of an administration are going to be spent focusing on the damage this administration has done to every aspect of government. Literally every agency will have to be rebuilt and structured as they try to get back to a normal functioning status. Literally every agency is going to be in disarray as a new administration that has access to documents and information on how the agencies were being run comes to light..

And before jumping to the donald's defense, keep in mind that every agency has been headed by people who are against the agencies they are put in charge of. Agency heads have been chosen by a president who has brought the lowest levels of actual experience and expertise to agencies that take seasoned and experienced people with a lifetime of large organization administration sk**ls. Agency heads have been chosen because they are against the agency they are in charge of, it was literally their job to implement their destruction if not elimination entirely. Agencies have been defunded, their best people fired or resigning in disgust of an incompetent management that didn't want them to do their jobs.

The incoming administration will be inundated with reports of corruption and crimes that need to addressed by federal prosecutors, many of the trump state and federal prosecutors will need to be replaced, far more than is typical.

But here is the benefit of running on fixing the mess trump created, it gives dems a chance to air specific things trump has screwed up by discussing what needs to be done to fix it.

Forget universal healthcare, the fight will be keeping the ACA and tuning it up over five to ten years heading it toward more and more coverage. Forget green new deals, just evolve energy the right direction, it takes decades. Run on rejecting the worst of the unqualified judges McConnell has jammed through, not all, just the most glaringly bad according to the ABA.

To hell with changing the world in one term, just work on righting this sinking ship.
The first two years if not the whole four of an ad... (show quote)


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"sinking ship"?
That's friggin' hilarious!!!!!!

Want to see somebody who's sinking?

What’s Wrong with Pelosi?… Demons Finally Take Control of Her Tongue – She Starts Speaking Gibberish

"The demons inside Pelosi took control of her tongue on Thursday following the impeachment v**e.
The Democrat Speaker started babbling nonsense during her presser.
What in the hell?"
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/whats-wrong-with-pelosi-demons-take-control-of-her-tongue-during-impeachment-presser/







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Dec 21, 2019 17:14:14   #
Carol Kelly
 
MR Mister wrote:
The only people running will your lying libs on a pole covered in tar.


Tarring and feathering has sadly gone out of style...more’s the pity. Also, firing squads.

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Dec 21, 2019 17:16:26   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
bdamage wrote:
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"sinking ship"?
That's friggin' hilarious!!!!!!

Want to see somebody who's sinking?

What’s Wrong with Pelosi?… Demons Finally Take Control of Her Tongue – She Starts Speaking Gibberish

"The demons inside Pelosi took control of her tongue on Thursday following the impeachment v**e.
The Democrat Speaker started babbling nonsense during her presser.
What in the hell?"
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/whats-wrong-with-pelosi-demons-take-control-of-her-tongue-during-impeachment-presser/
πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ br br "sinking sh... (show quote)



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Dec 21, 2019 17:41:15   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
son of witless wrote:
No it shouldn't. If a murderer does not actually say " I am going to k**l you " right before he murders his victim, it doesn't make him any less of a murderer.



I think you should share that wisdom with trump and all of his orange supporters..

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Dec 21, 2019 17:49:06   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
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Dec 21, 2019 17:51:49   #
maureenthannon
 
Are they going to put people out of work? When Trump took office, there were record numbers of people who were on Public assistance. When Barak was President, even millionaires received food stamps. Under Trump, unemployment
fell to the lowest number in 50 years. When Trump was President, incomes rose fr all levels of income for the first time in 10 years. Obama gave our enemies weapons that were used to k**l Americans(Operation fast&Furious; He gave guns to Islamic Groups in Libya, including ISIS and Al Queda, he claimed they were to take ut Libian President Ghadafi, maybe Americans in B******i, too)! Thank GOD that Trump fied some of BHO's worst mistakes!

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