Seth

Support of Israel is not apartheid, because the Israeli-"Palestinian" situation is only one of "apartheid" in the minds of those who are better versed in extremist propaganda than in the realities of the relationship between the two parties over there.

Most of the rank & file "Palestinians" are being used as pawns by people, organizations and a few totalitarian governments over there who don't want Israel to exist. It's Hamas, the Palestinian Authority (Fatah), Islamic Jihad and others who bring suffering on their own people by forcing the Israeli government to adapt stern security measures to protect the lives of its citizens.

From the beginning, the Israelis have bent over backwards to reach mutually beneficial accommodations with those folks, and every time, the PA (West Bank) or Hamas (now Gaza) has milked whatever deals the Israelis made in good faith, then resumed butchering Jews forthwith. Hamas' charter -- look it up, it's on-line -- specifically vows the extermination of every Jew in Israel.

I've worked in Israel in a security consultant capacity and watched video of interrogations of ranking Hamas personnel, heard the confessions, and I know a few "Palestinians" who live here in America who have told me that they didn't leave because of the Israelis, they left because of the corruption and the misery brought on them by their own leadership.

When Arafat died, his wife inherited hundreds of millions of dollars that sat in Swiss banks -- where do you think that money came from? It came out of funds originating, among other places, in yours and my tax dollars, money sent to help the "Palestinian" people that never made it that far.

The "Palestinians" aren't victims of Jews, they're victims of their own leaders.

These westerners who belong to the BDS movement and all these so-called "free Palestine" organizations are nothing but a bunch of guillible, propagandized useful idiots of the kind found everywhere who need a cause, any cause, to "champion" to make them feel good about themselves or give them a sense of "belonging," and such rubes are very easily manipulated by skillfull liars, as are those westerners who, rather than taking the trouble to actually examine a situation thoroughly, simply take the word of whichever media they believe is keeping them "informed."

Other than the "apartheid" reference, I'm afraid the rest of your post was just a tad confusing in terms of where it was going and where it went.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Indeed Sir!

woodguru

How can you as a grown and presumably intelligent man repeat nonsense like this "chosen one" and "divine intervention crap"? Perry saying those things proves he's a few cards short of a full deck.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

To say isreal.is not apartheid is absurd, BDS is the only hope for Jews who get nothing out-of being a front line fortress protecting Billionairs.

Arafat's wife was a Roman Catholic what else could you expect, and Arafat was poisoned by Zionists, all the other rhetoric you present is not true you probably only saw what you wanted too.

One thing for sure is true is that Israel is the expression of Zionist ideology prevailing over Assimilationist ideology it started as that because Stalin gave Israel his blessing but Socialist Israel collapsed and became a murderous regime that can't possibly be associated with Religion.

Isreal didn't have to remain Zionist, Israel was always plugged up as a commune the was dropping Zionism to be accepted in the region that was before 1967, when the US began using israel as it's auxiliary, Britain and France pushed Israel on to the US like France did Vietnam.


Zionism was only a small minority before Theodore Herzel and the British Foreign Office linked up with Rothschild and decided to use Herzel's ideology to break up the Ottomon Empire.

Theodore Herzel is being expunged from the internet over the years I've watched his history taken down.

Theodore was murdered in hospital age 44 by the Zionists, some members of his family also suffered a mysterious early death and were said by the Zionists to be insane and all Theodores family were later hounded into oblivion.

Theodore Herzel opposed Palestine as a Jewish homeland when the Ottoman Sultanate did not live up to his expectations.

I don't think Isreal is a an appropriate topic for discussion on OPP as attitudes are chiseled in stone, and I come across as an enemy.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

You aren't informed enough to accept an answer.

You never thought Donald Trump would give your suicide Queen an electoral trouncing, did you??

Seth

Not as an enemy, simply as misinformed, as one whose initial studies were done utilizing biased anti- Zionist texts, which would compare to, say, a biography of LBJ that praises him as a champion of civil rights or a Howard Zinn inspired volume of American History.🤓

Seth

He never thought at all.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

You ignored the date of Perry's comment: July 22, 2015. Lots of things change over 4 - 1/2 years.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Mosab Hassan Yousef, son of the founder of Hamas, Stuns the UN Human Rights Council Debate

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

The life of a proggie.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Howard Zinn nearly made the ton died 98 years old, I think of him in the era of, Ernie Ford , (you load) - Sixteen Tons Tons - (and what do you get) , Pete Seeger 94 years old died 2014, things change, coal is out renewable is in, culture and accompanying politics is not such a simple conversion exercise.
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I think, the Israel issue must go to a Higher Court if there is a higher Court, I think there is so there's no need for us to worry, probably the highest authority if there is no High Court is war.

Now !! alarm !! at the moment only Australia, Britain and Albania have signed up for patrolling the Persian Gulf, our PM. is clueless but has got one thing in common with Donald Trump and that is Climate Change denial, which is hoty debated since it hasn't rained normal for years the Barrier Reef is two thirds dead or dying, the oceans are warming springs are failing, the Antarctic is breaking up and I can't stop feeling the next generation don't want to keep up my pension payments.

There are many pressing issues to discuss.

Silent Hammer

GREAT POST!

Seth

As the planet evolves....

Seth

Thank you.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Hope not like Venus, but we can all relax I know for sure that can't happen here since Venus never supported intelligence.

We are not alone though all them people from past existences make up nearly everyone in Heaven, they say its a pleasure to die in Heaven and some compare it to Venus Aphrodite big hit in Heaven, has anyone seen the sea?

Which one do you mean, - my sea of course, - evaporated away when things warmed up, -why then didn't it make rain, it did upside down, - thanks for that see you later, where you going, - down under.