Kevyn

The stated policy of Trumps own state department is to arm Ukraine to defend themselves against Russia. Trump set up a shadow group headed by Rudy and his Russian mob buddies to shake down Ukraine instead. If what he was doing is above board why not run it through the state department instead of his fixer and mobsters? Foreign policy is the president’s prerogative until it turns into extortion and bribery, Ben it is a crime.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

There is NO claim that the Ukraine "hacked" the DNC computers. And just food for thought, if the DNC had been running an above board honest campaign, then the release of the email would not have been so damning. the claim is that government officials of the Ukraine wrote and published in our own news untruthful and grievous lies about Mr Trump prior to his election.

federally indicted mattoid

If Drumph ran an above board business operation, then the release of his tax returns would not be so damning... Oops, I mean they will be.

Which is why he won't.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

True.... plus, no one other than CrowdStrike EVER examined the servers before they disappeared.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

What does tax returns have to do with election interference or hacking the DNC servers?

federally indicted mattoid

You seem to be worried about honesty...

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

And the same report shows that Russia favored MR. Sanders over Clinton. see page 23 of the mueller report; Internal IRA documents “referred to support for the Trump campaign and opposition to candidate Clinton,” according to the report. While much of this section of the report is redacted, it cites directions to IRA operators not to harm Sanders.

“Main idea: Use any opportunity to criticize Hillary [Clinton] and the rest (except Sanders and Trump — we support them),” quotes the report.

Allegations of the pro-Sanders strategy by Russian influencers came up in 2018, when the Justice Department charged 13 individuals and three companies with interfering illegally. and as mentioned, those 13 were not expected to appear in our courts, but have and are winning their case!

So, bottom-line… ANYONE other than Clinton as they feared worsening relations with the USA and possible war with the US.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

If you want to talk about the President's tax returns, please create a separate thread and I will join your discussion. This thread makes claims about election interference, and I see no reason to dilute the conversation with tax and tax privacy laws.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

You just don't like it because it's Trump and he's going to nail the corrupt arrangement between Burisma and the Biden's. LOL! you don't like him any way kevy, he's a white guy!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

It is funny that Crowdstrike claims they gave the FBI a copy of the server but we have never heard anything from the FBI about it.

woodguru

I am one of those who thinks and knows that good foreign policy comes from a state department and the intelligence community, as well as the pentagon, and a president that trusts all of the mentioned parts of the mechanism that he should be listening to and trusting, rather than having a "foreign policy" if you can call it that that is entirely against the national interests in all regards.

It remains to be seen why trump put so much of a priority on already completely debunked BS to withhold military aid from the Ukraine, but whatever his "reasons", the effect was to do Putin a huge favor in the Ukraine not having anti tank weapons in time for them attacking the eastern Ukraine.

What trump did in withholding aid outside of official channels that circumvented the wishes of congress was likely done illegally, and the staffers responsible for expediting funds knew it, and reports were sent through channels trying to stop it.

Yes a president is heavily responsible for foreign policies, but also for staying within official channels and adhering to the rules and law. We do not have a king, we have a president and there are rules and guidelines for him to stay within.

woodguru

Do you know what crowdstrike is, who owns it and what they do?

woodguru

Do you understand or know what the real corruption the Ukraine was fighting against is and who was involved, and how much money the Ukraine is trying to recover from those who stole billions of dollars?

To say that the Ukrainians are worried about how much money Burisma lost to the Bidens would be like saying they wanted to go after the evaporation from a lake of money that was stolen. It was not "the corruption" that Ukraine was fighting. The fact is that Giuliani's two friends Igor and Guido, and the three amigos were involved in bigger issues than the Bidens were.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I was not aware that CrowdStrike gave a copy of the server to the FBI....which is a headscratcher, why didn't they turn over the server? It was decommissioned and removed from the platform, served no purpose other than to collect dust. My opinion, wherever this server is, it needs to be found and reviewed by computer experts compiled of FBI, NSA, and a third party that is not CrowdStrike (hopefully a company that did not have a dog in the campaign fight). But, like the killary basement email servers while Sec of State, it has probably been destroyed.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Under the Constitution, the president is the federal official that is primarily responsible for the relations of the United States with foreign nations. ... The president may also negotiate executive agreements with foreign powers that are not subject to Senate confirmation. The president and the executive branch have the most significant role in making foreign policy and are responsible for carrying it out. With the advice and consent of the Senate, the president makes treaties and appoints ambassadors. Some of the tools used in foreign policy are, specifically, diplomacy, sanctions, containment, collective security, deterrence, and military force.