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It is time for the constitution to be re-written and updated
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Oct 15, 2019 06:38:33   #
Big Kahuna
 
lpnmajor wrote:
It's re-written constantly. Here's how it works; decide what you want to do, or not do in some cases, then twist the Constitution so that it appears to support your actions and claim you're just following the law.

If you need another example........................the Bible is used in exactly the same fashion.


Yes, the leftists, including the leftist women on the Supreme Court have been doing that for years. Non-Christians and atheists have been distorting the Bible to fit in with their sin nature for many centuries. Look at Pete Buttigege, who distorts scripture to defend his homosexual lifestyle or Nancy Peeloosli and Hitlery Clinton who support infanticide (murder) though claiming they are Christians?? Just 2 examples.

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Oct 15, 2019 06:44:05   #
Richard Mondale Loc: Montana
 
The Government is in violation of Article One; Section 7. The powers are not divided correctly. They are the Constitutional Spheres that George Washington spoke about.
The Framers did make a mistake. They thought Voting would work. It is a decision making process. Choosing a Representative is a choice. It requires a different mechanism. All this bickering is because we vote.

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Oct 15, 2019 06:44:06   #
Big Kahuna
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
It doesn't need to be rewritten but some new amendments are definitely due, especially in presidential privileges, presidential pardoning, everywhere we have recently witnessed Trump's overreach of power, obstruction of testimonials come to mind. Or to have the president's position be suspended until the cloud is removed or validated where he is then permanently removed without any pardon for his actions.


One need not look too far into the past to see how that fairyboy, Bathhouse Barry Ovommit was guilty of overreach, destruction of our Constitutional laws and downright subversiveness. You still can't get over Hitlery Rotten Clinton's loss to Trump!!

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Oct 15, 2019 08:30:12   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
factnotfiction wrote:
No matter how smart some think the original writers of the constitution were, they had no idea how the country would change since 1788.

For instance, why is the 3rd amendment still part of the bill of rights? It is useless, and will never be used, since the founders had no idea about standing armies and forts.

And why do cons always talk about being originalists in their interpretation of what the founders meant, only up to when they are in power and want to support their policy, such as the horrible, criminal Citizens United for corruption and greed.

And it is time to get rid of all of the nebulous, confusing language about what some thinks that some meant in 1788.


https://theweek.com/articles/782716/theres-no-such-thing-literal-interpretation-constitution
No matter how smart some think the original writer... (show quote)


They wrote it knowing what would happen to prevent tyranny and preserving our freedoms! Against communists and socialists! Under God!

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Oct 15, 2019 08:31:45   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
lpnmajor wrote:
It's re-written constantly. Here's how it works; decide what you want to do, or not do in some cases, then twist the Constitution so that it appears to support your actions and claim you're just following the law.

If you need another example........................the Bible is used in exactly the same fashion.


People twist both to suit their agendas! But Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever!

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Oct 15, 2019 08:33:42   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
lpnmajor wrote:
So, Conservative judges are getting some payback?


Justice is justice! Theron is the payback! No twisting just straight equal justice for all! Something liberal judges don’t comprehend!

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Oct 15, 2019 08:35:30   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
It doesn't need to be rewritten but some new amendments are definitely due, especially in presidential privileges, presidential pardoning, everywhere we have recently witnessed Trump's overreach of power, obstruction of testimonials come to mind. Or to have the president's position be suspended until the cloud is removed or validated where he is then permanently removed without any pardon for his actions.


You mean rewrite according to liberal think! Ovomit tried!

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Oct 15, 2019 08:43:34   #
Seth
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
There is a process for changing the Constitution. There are also numerous other options available to you.
1). You can move somewhere with a constitution more to your liking.
2). You can die and you won't have to worry about it anymore. (My personal favorite and recommendation)
3). You can begin the process of a Constitutional Amendment, which our founders whom you consider so stupid so disingenuously provided. All you have to do is get 2/3 of a quorum of both the House and Senate to agree, then 3/4 of the states. This process is quite lengthy and difficult, and rightly so, to protect the citizens of this country from ELWNJs, so if you choose this method you'd best get cracking.
4). You can choose the most likely option and just complain about it.
There is a process for changing the Constitution. ... (show quote)


Nicely put.

I, too, believe Option 2 would be more desirable in the cases of many a leftie.

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Oct 15, 2019 09:06:03   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
factnotfiction wrote:
No matter how smart some think the original writers of the constitution were, they had no idea how the country would change since 1788.

For instance, why is the 3rd amendment still part of the bill of rights? It is useless, and will never be used, since the founders had no idea about standing armies and forts.

And why do cons always talk about being originalists in their interpretation of what the founders meant, only up to when they are in power and want to support their policy, such as the horrible, criminal Citizens United for corruption and greed.

And it is time to get rid of all of the nebulous, confusing language about what some thinks that some meant in 1788.


https://theweek.com/articles/782716/theres-no-such-thing-literal-interpretation-constitution
No matter how smart some think the original writer... (show quote)



With these kind of posts, factnotfiction demonstrates his ignorance of history. One of the major irritants to the colonists was the quartering of British soldiers in their homes without even the courtesy of consultation.

An FDR administration officer once advocated that any power not so specifically forbidden was permitted. Such is how progressive government goes.

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Oct 15, 2019 10:00:28   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
lpnmajor wrote:
It's re-written constantly. Here's how it works; decide what you want to do, or not do in some cases, then twist the Constitution so that it appears to support your actions and claim you're just following the law.

If you need another example........................the Bible is used in exactly the same fashion.



You are exactly right.

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Oct 15, 2019 10:15:15   #
F.D.R.
 
factnotfiction wrote:
No matter how smart some think the original writers of the constitution were, they had no idea how the country would change since 1788.

For instance, why is the 3rd amendment still part of the bill of rights? It is useless, and will never be used, since the founders had no idea about standing armies and forts.

And why do cons always talk about being originalists in their interpretation of what the founders meant, only up to when they are in power and want to support their policy, such as the horrible, criminal Citizens United for corruption and greed.

And it is time to get rid of all of the nebulous, confusing language about what some thinks that some meant in 1788.


https://theweek.com/articles/782716/theres-no-such-thing-literal-interpretation-constitution
No matter how smart some think the original writer... (show quote)


It MIGHT be a good idea, but there's a problem. The writers of the original constitution had the best interests of the country in mind. Today's politicians will always choose to serve their own interests ahead of country every time.

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Oct 15, 2019 10:25:23   #
currahee506
 
The American Constitution presupposed the universality of the "Rule of Law." This means that it is a document reflecting the essence of "Republic behavior" before our Creator. It is not a document to be changed by a "changing culture." it supersedes any culture and provides a standard of thought where all men and women can survive in a civilized society where justice is blind and to be applied to all economic classes of people.

You need to understand the difference between "form and substance." When you understand this you will not make such ignorant statements.

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Oct 15, 2019 10:49:48   #
Big dog
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yeah, those Federalist Papers that go deeply into the reasons, purposes, and intent of the founders in framing our constitution are extraordinarily "nebulous". Takes a friggin genius to figure them out.

I'm sure someone of your low IQ and limited education doesn't know this, but the Constitution of the United States belongs to We the People, it is not the property of the government.


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Oct 15, 2019 10:55:37   #
tlow45 Loc: Vacation Land (Maine)
 
factnotfiction wrote:
No matter how smart some think the original writers of the constitution were, they had no idea how the country would change since 1788.

For instance, why is the 3rd amendment still part of the bill of rights? It is useless, and will never be used, since the founders had no idea about standing armies and forts.

And why do cons always talk about being originalists in their interpretation of what the founders meant, only up to when they are in power and want to support their policy, such as the horrible, criminal Citizens United for corruption and greed.

And it is time to get rid of all of the nebulous, confusing language about what some thinks that some meant in 1788.


https://theweek.com/articles/782716/theres-no-such-thing-literal-interpretation-constitution
No matter how smart some think the original writer... (show quote)


The Founders based our Constitution on Natural Law and the nature of people. Nowhere is there a mention of technology, specific weapons, air travel, fossil fuels, etc. Only the nature of man is considered. Any statement about what the Founders could or could not predict about the future is not relevant in any form or fashion.

The simple truth is the nature of man has not changed. Nor will it.

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Oct 15, 2019 10:59:54   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
factnotfiction wrote:
No matter how smart some think the original writers of the constitution were, they had no idea how the country would change since 1788.

For instance, why is the 3rd amendment still part of the bill of rights? It is useless, and will never be used, since the founders had no idea about standing armies and forts.

And why do cons always talk about being originalists in their interpretation of what the founders meant, only up to when they are in power and want to support their policy, such as the horrible, criminal Citizens United for corruption and greed.

And it is time to get rid of all of the nebulous, confusing language about what some thinks that some meant in 1788.


https://theweek.com/articles/782716/theres-no-such-thing-literal-interpretation-constitution
No matter how smart some think the original writer... (show quote)


The whole idea of the constitution is to stay the proven course of fairness and longevity for the Republic.

The same agitators who want to change the constitution, are the same people who claim that the bible is outdated.

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