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Oct 13, 2019 11:10:33   #
currahee506
 
The Communists disguised as Democrats are wasting their time on purpose because it is part of their end game. I believe they are trying to entice as many people as they can to be against our president and to want a communist revolution where they will be in power. For them, the "ends justify the means." This is also "Jesuit philosophy." Revolutions are led from the top down. The working man can't afford the money nor the time to start a revolution; it usually is led by "spoiled and bratty kids from upper-middle-class narcissists parents" who are "pained in knowing what to do in life and at the same time not wanting to work hard to get it."

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Oct 13, 2019 11:34:27   #
Patriot1
 
Custer’s last stand.

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Oct 13, 2019 11:41:15   #
zillaorange
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Nine Bengazi investigations ? The right doesn't push?


4 men, who might have survived, were left to die. There were ops already to go & then told to stand down !!! Who gave the order ? A street demonstration gone overboard, when, in fact, it was a planned assault ?? Then to say, "What difference does it make" !!! C'mon moldy, it was a horror that hitlery allowed to happen !!!

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Oct 13, 2019 11:43:47   #
moldyoldy
 
zillaorange wrote:
4 men, who might have survived, were left to die. There were ops already to go & then told to stand down !!! Who gave the order ? A street demonstration gone overboard, when, in fact, it was a planned assault ?? Then to say, "What difference does it make" !!! C'mon moldy, it was a horror that hitlery allowed to happen !!!


The actual facts that came out in the repeated hearings told a different story.

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Oct 13, 2019 11:50:01   #
zillaorange
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The actual facts that came out in the repeated hearings told a different story.


moldy, where the hell are you getting your stuff ? I watched the entire hearing . The BITCH let those men die horrible deaths & then said "What difference does it make". How do you let that slide ??????

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Oct 13, 2019 12:12:03   #
JoyV
 
slatten49 wrote:
Impeachment can’t be “unconstitutional” because it’s spelled out in the Constitution, Fox News host Chris Wallace said Friday, responding to remarks that former GOP House Speaker Newt Gingrich had made earlier on Fox.

Besides, Gingrich presumably didn’t believe it was unconstitutional when he led an impeachment effort, Wallace noted to America’s Newsroom anchor Sandra Smith.

“I think I remember Newt Gingrich ... led an impeachment effort against Bill Clinton in 1998. Was that an effort to overturn an election?” Wallace asked. “No, he was investigating stuff.”

Wallace said he was a “little surprised at Speaker Gingrich, who I greatly respect.” The impeachment investigation of President Donald Trump “is the exact opposite of unconstitutional,” he added
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And Trump doesn’t get to decide how that investigation unfolds. “The Constitution specifically says that impeachment is left to Congress, with very little statement as to how they want to conduct it,” Wallace said.

Gingrich had insisted earlier that the House impeachment inquiry was an “unconstitutional coup d’etat” and an underhanded plot to change the outcome of an election. (Impeachment can ultimately lead to the removal of a president from office, although the Senate declined to oust either of the two presidents previously impeached.)

Wallace declared those comments “kind of a reach, particularly for somebody like Newt Gingrich, who was involved in the last impeachment effort.”
Impeachment can’t be “unconstitutional” because it... (show quote)


Presenting articles of impeachment is not unconstitutional. Doing so allows for due process and the accused being able to question the accusers and call witnesses. What is being done is NOT what the constitution allows. This inquiry does not allow the accused to do anything, not even make a defense of himself.

No articles of impeachment have been submitted. They are trying to impeach without following legal or constitutional procedures,
AND they are doing so by denying due process which is so important in our constitution to be repeated in multiple places.

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Oct 13, 2019 12:16:35   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Was there a prolonged circus "investigation" by the house prior to the vote to impeach Clinton???



4 years were spent trying to pin something on wild Bill.. then they got for lying about a blow job..

Talk about searching for anything..



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Oct 13, 2019 12:19:16   #
JoyV
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
There is no requirement that the House vote on an impeachment inquiry. However, it has always held a vote in the past. I KNOW why. The Democrats ostensibly have one vote more than they need to inquire or impeach. Why do they not vote? I think because many of the Democrats who opposed impeachment and then came out for it were assured they would not be required to put their money where their mouth is by having to go on record with a vote.


You miss the point. The vote is what follows submitting articles of impeachment as is outlined in our constitution. It isn't the vote which is the beginning, nor is it the vote which determines whether due process should be allowed. Due process is every American's right which is guaranteed in our constitution and reiterated in 2 separate amendments. They are denying our president a fundamental right even the most heinous criminal cannot be denied. Mass murderers, child rapists, and even traitors have the right of due process!!!!!!

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Oct 13, 2019 12:24:02   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
JoyV wrote:
Presenting articles of impeachment is not unconstitutional. Doing so allows for due process and the accused being able to question the accusers and call witnesses. What is being done is NOT what the constitution allows. This inquiry does not allow the accused to do anything, not even make a defense of himself.

No articles of impeachment have been submitted. They are trying to impeach without following legal or constitutional procedures,
AND they are doing so by denying due process which is so important in our constitution to be repeated in multiple places.
Presenting articles of impeachment is not unconsti... (show quote)

For your possible edification or amusement*, you decide...

https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-167527-1.html#3012947

*In either event, have a great day, JoyV

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Oct 13, 2019 12:26:37   #
JoyV
 
Kevyn wrote:
The Ken Starr investigation was not voted on in the house, and this is the stage we are at now. The sad thing is that Starr was unlike Mueller independent and not under the thumb of Clintons AG.


No. Ken Starr was conducting an independent investigation which IF wrongdoing was found might lead to articles of impeachment being submitted. What is happening here is a partisan impeachment is being conducted by bypassing submitting articles of impeachment and denying due process.

The Mueller investigation was the equivalent of the Ken Starr investigation.

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Oct 13, 2019 12:31:21   #
JoyV
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Gingrich was hell bent on impeaching Clinton for a BJ, all the while he was cheating on his then wife with his next one.


I agree. The Ken Starr investigation was a witch hunt as was the Mueller investigation. Both were technically legal but were a misuse of taxpayer dollars. But what is happening now is unconstitutional and therefore illegal.

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Oct 13, 2019 12:37:45   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
zillaorange wrote:
4 men, who might have survived, were left to die. There were ops already to go & then told to stand down !!! Who gave the order ? A street demonstration gone overboard, when, in fact, it was a planned assault ?? Then to say, "What difference does it make" !!! C'mon moldy, it was a horror that hitlery allowed to happen !!!



Even the 9 republican investigation found what you post was not true.. found no wrong doing..

20 plus years of effort and you could not find anything wrong with Lady Hillary activites..

All nothing but right wing wishes..

did you know that between trump republicans and real republicans we have a 33 point difference in the support of impeachment investigations.?

real republicans see that the nation needs it done..



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Oct 13, 2019 12:42:30   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
zillaorange wrote:
4 men, who might have survived, were left to die. There were ops already to go & then told to stand down !!! Who gave the order ? A street demonstration gone overboard, when, in fact, it was a planned assault ?? Then to say, "What difference does it make" !!! C'mon moldy, it was a horror that hitlery allowed to happen !!!



As has been repeated dozens of times, the "what difference does it make" was not about the deaths, that wish was pushed be the fish wrap press to this day..

It was about the reason for the riot/attack.

Who allowed the shortage of security? The congress who cut funding for that very requested from all stations..



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Oct 13, 2019 12:45:30   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
As has been repeated dozens of times, the "what difference does it make" was not about the deaths, that wish was pushed be the fish wrap press to this day..

It was about the reason for the riot/attack.

Who allowed the shortage of security? The congress who cut funding for that very requested from all stations..

Frostie, to my diminished memory, that is one of the most ghastly looking ghouls I've ever seen.

I'm guessing his mind has turned into a vegetable.

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Oct 13, 2019 12:48:49   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
slatten49 wrote:
Frostie, to my diminished memory, that is one of the most ghastly looking ghouls I've ever seen.

I'm guessing his mind has turned into a vegetable.




HA HA,,, I wanted one like it for our porch on spooks day..

But the boss says "no way" she and the grand kids have projects in mind and they will be fun..

Looks like a lot of work anyway...


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