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Oct 9, 2019 23:38:06   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
How so?


It doesn't. She was a legal age voting citizen at 18.

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Oct 9, 2019 23:39:36   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
dtucker300 wrote:
It doesn't. She was a legal age voting citizen at 18.


It was a new angle that I hadn't heard before..

Birthers are funny

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Oct 10, 2019 00:11:37   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
archie bunker wrote:
You wouldn't shoot at ME, would you Tom?


I took an oath that I would protect the United States against all enemies foriegn and domestic. I personally would not rush to kill fellow Americans. I do understand though that an armed insurgency is no match for the United States Army. Any body with a death wish can try I guess---Not advisable.

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Oct 10, 2019 00:20:27   #
debeda
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I took an oath that I would protect the United States against all enemies foriegn and domestic. I personally would not rush to kill fellow Americans. I do understand though that an armed insurgency is no match for the United States Army. Any body with a death wish can try I guess---Not advisable.


But who would the army support? In Venezuela the army was split as to who they supported from footage last spring and summer after the elections that didn't take.

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Oct 10, 2019 00:29:34   #
Booneyboy1
 
Congress can't remove trump. All they can do is bring the articles of impeachment. Or evidence of high crimes n misdemeanors. Then its the senate that will try him and vote for removal or not. Bill Clinton was charged with 8 felony's when congress brought articles against him n no removel. Republicans have the majority in the senate. Mr. Trump isn't going anywhere until his second term in the books. Not to mention he hasn't committed a crime. The dems are running scared, they're found out and know its all over.

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Oct 10, 2019 00:33:47   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
debeda wrote:
But who would the army support? In Venezuela the army was split as to who they supported from footage last spring and summer after the elections that didn't take.


The Army Would be in a dilemma would they not? They would be compelled to fire upon American citizens and soldiers would be loath to do that..

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Oct 10, 2019 00:47:36   #
debeda
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
The Army Would be in a dilemma would they not? They would be compelled to fire upon American citizens and soldiers would be loath to do that..


Crazy. As I said earlier in the thread I see impeachment as a nonissue. President Trump will either be voted out or will term out. The country has been polarized for some time now, and the left's extreme reaction to the 2016 election only exacerbated that, along with the open borders, full term abortion, gender wars, and other weird policies being pushed right now. Ah, well, the pendulum always swings. Its swinging hard left, and I dont like it. I hope I'm gone by the time it swings hard right cuz I won't like that either......😟🥴

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Oct 10, 2019 00:50:00   #
Booneyboy1
 
I have to agree with sinniek. Rural America, you know, us deplorables aren't going to sit still for a bunch of omars n aoc bitches or shiff pussy's running our country into another Venezuela. And yes we have alot of guns n ammo. Plus the military n law enforcement love Mr.Trump.California, Illinois, new york , new england wont stand a chance. Hell the last two generations x n millennial's can't put their phones down or shut their mouths long enough to fight. Even then their all big baby's living in mom's basement.

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Oct 10, 2019 00:56:37   #
kemmer
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I don't believe that Obama was born in Mombasa Kenya. I know it.
Trump won the election when he alone forced Obama to produce a phony birth certificate. America noticed, and then voted.


Hahahaha.... And Trump said his father was born in Germany. He was born in the Bronx.

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Oct 10, 2019 01:02:14   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
It was a new angle that I hadn't heard before..

Birthers are funny


Non-citizens come here all the time and give birth; citizenship by birth. That may need to be changed but that is how it stands currently. We have Chinese babies (or any other nationality) born here getting a U.S. Birth Certificate and they return to China with their parents. Does anyone see this as a problem?

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Oct 10, 2019 01:10:44   #
Booneyboy1
 
What i wrote was of course hypothetical. Because he wont be removed, and thanks to the radical dems scaring even their base, will win a 2nd term easily. I wouldn't want another civil war no way. It would be awesome if both sides could move towards the middle and work out our differences.like maybe some gun background checks and mentality issue gun surrender, for national voter registration id cards. Proof of citizenship and legal eligibility.

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Oct 10, 2019 01:33:50   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Booneyboy1 wrote:
What i wrote was of course hypothetical. Because he wont be removed, and thanks to the radical dems scaring even their base, will win a 2nd term easily. I wouldn't want another civil war no way. It would be awesome if both sides could move towards the middle and work out our differences.like maybe some gun background checks and mentality issue gun surrender, for national voter registration id cards. Proof of citizenship and legal eligibility.


As long as the Left wants to ignore or destroy the Constitution, there is no middle ground. As long as they keep pulling the Democrat Party further left, there is no middle ground. The Left and Progressive wing already have the advantage because they can change everything through incrementalism. Eventually, time is on the side of the progressives. People think new is better without ever asking why we do things the way we do. Sometimes it is for some very good reasons but they are ignored because conservatives don't do a very good job of explaining why things are the way they are. The progressives have taken over the education system at the expense of not teaching our founding. Today, students only get the other side of the story as given to them but progressive educators. When it isn't then we should ask why we do it this way.

I minored in Public Administration in College. Every class and professor I had didn't teach political theory but instead focused on how the bureaucracy works without ever questioning why it is this way. What they were teaching you was the bureaucratic status-quo so that you could navigate the system and get your promotions. The whole system was insanity because I had to play their game to get good grades. You pretty much needed to keep your thoughts to yourself and regurgitate what the instructor wanted to hear. That was more than 40 years ago. From what I see and hear, it is worse today. Graduate schools in Public Administration abound and are diploma mills. There are dozens alone in Washington D.C. and the students often are paying a ridiculous amount for indoctrination, all so that they can move up in civil service grade and get higher pay. It is the Peter Principle at its best.

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Oct 10, 2019 01:37:57   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Non-citizens come here all the time and give birth; citizenship by birth. That may need to be changed but that is how it stands currently. We have Chinese babies (or any other nationality) born here getting a U.S. Birth Certificate and they return to China with their parents. Does anyone see this as a problem?


There is actually a huge industry over here that helps people to cheat our systems... They help parents to illegally attain citizenship in America, Canada, and Hong Kong...

I personally know a dozen people who have done this... On average they pay about twenty thousand US dollars...

It is a huge problem... And is extremely unfair to all true born citizens....

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Oct 10, 2019 01:39:05   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
dtucker300 wrote:
As long as the Left wants to ignore or destroy the Constitution, there is no middle ground. As long as they keep pulling the Democrat Party further left, there is no middle ground. The Left and Progressive wing already have the advantage because they can change everything through incrementalism. Eventually, time is on the side of the progressives. People think new is better without ever asking why we do things the way we do. Sometimes it is for some very good reasons but they are ignored because conservatives don't do a very good job of explaining why things are the way they are. The progressives have taken over the education system at the expense of not teaching our founding. Today, students only get the other side of the story as given to them but progressive educators. When it isn't then we should ask why we do it this way.

I minored in Public Administration in College. Every class and professor I had didn't teach political theory but instead focused on how the bureaucracy works without ever questioning why it is this way. What they were teaching you was the bureaucratic status-quo so that you could navigate the system and get your promotions. The whole system was insanity because I had to play their game to get good grades. You pretty much needed to keep your thoughts to yourself and regurgitate what the instructor wanted to hear. That was more than 40 years ago. From what I see and hear, it is worse today. Graduate schools in Public Administration abound and are diploma mills. There are dozens alone in Washington D.C. and the students often are paying a ridiculous amount for indoctrination, all so that they can move up in civil service grade and get higher pay. It is the Peter Principle at its best.
As long as the Left wants to ignore or destroy the... (show quote)


It is similar over here sadly...


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Oct 10, 2019 06:01:40   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
debeda wrote:
Crazy. As I said earlier in the thread I see impeachment as a nonissue. President Trump will either be voted out or will term out. The country has been polarized for some time now, and the left's extreme reaction to the 2016 election only exacerbated that, along with the open borders, full term abortion, gender wars, and other weird policies being pushed right now. Ah, well, the pendulum always swings. Its swinging hard left, and I dont like it. I hope I'm gone by the time it swings hard right cuz I won't like that either......😟🥴
Crazy. As I said earlier in the thread I see impea... (show quote)


me either

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