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It’s 43% according to Politico. A source lefties like to sight. Barr wasn’t on the phone call. Trump told the Ukrainians he would talk to Barr. Ridiculous how gullible you guys are. There has to be a statute broken before this should be elevated to anything close to impeachment. The supposed whistleblower is starting to have big problems. We shall see. The transcripts show no quid pro quo. None. All innuendo. Do I think the call was ill advised. Yes. Stupid? Maybe. Illegal? Not in the least. No problem with Pompeo on the call of he was. What’s the problem? Read the transcripts. There is no there there.

I'm still not buying in to your theory. Bad stuff is coming out. there will be more in just a short time. . Hell-- trump will tweet it all out. He even re tweeted a radical preacher who called for civil war . i don't want to hear about "leftys" from you. You are defending an insane man who is a threat to our country. I am not happy any of this is happening but if you remember what I said over and over on OPP--"Trump is going to be chewed up and spit out". I was right. I like you Mike but you are wrong wrong WRONG.

Seems as if we Dems are not the only one concerned.. and very rightly so..

this is a post on Quora... and very timely..

Why is it controversial that Donald Trump asked the Ukranian president to investigate Biden?


It is a violation of federal law, and it is a felony, and the violation calls for five years in a federal penitentiary.

There is this very important law that states that no American can solicit any help from someone from outside of the United States (a foreign national) when it comes to any election. An American cannot accept any help — if it comes from outside of the United States, and it is election help. This law is not new, and the law makes sense.

It can be the guy running for mayor in your own town, or a person running for the President of the United States. You cannot ask a foreign person for money, to help in an election. You cannot ask them to run ads, on the TV, or on the Internet. Not if it is to help in any election in the United States. You cannot ask them to engage in spying on your election opponent, to try to dig up dirt. You cannot ask a foreigner for any help, or any aid, or any assistance — in any way — when it comes to any election in the United States of America. Not if it is a foreigner, or a foreign government.

You cannot ask them to conduct an investigation on an election opponent.

Because, that is “aiding” your election. Because, they are not Americans.

(Note — The United States has plenty of agencies which it uses to conduct investigations. You cannot try to deceive voters into who is conducting an investigation — the US, or some foreign government...)

The United States of America prefers that our elections be an internal matter — so that democracy is preserved. The United States of America prefers that its elections be conducted strictly by the United States of America. The United States does not want some other foreign government to be able to “control” our elected officials, or to be able to “blackmail” our elected officials, or to be able to literally run our own government as a sort of “puppet government…” — a government where the elected leader must always do as the the foreigner (a foreign government) demands.

It is an important law. Some would argue, it is one of the most important laws that there is.

Here is the law:

2 U.S.C. § 30121 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 52. Voting and Elections § 30121. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

52 U.S.C. § 30121 - U.S. Code Title 52. Voting and Elections § 30121 | FindLaw

Trump confirms he discussed Biden with Ukraine as some Dems call for impeachment — CBS News.

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In this case, there is also a secondary law that may have been broken. It has to do with the appearance that Donald Trump may have actually altered our foreign policy, to stop some money that was supposed to be paid to this foreign government — and then, told that foreign leader that the only way they could get the money would be if they investigated his own political opponent, in the next election. That appears to be the case, but we are still waiting to find that out for certain. For some reason, the payment to this foreign government was “halted” just a few days before these phone conversations. For no apparent reason. Coincidence? Then, after the phone conversations, Trump suddenly allowed the money to be transferred to the foreign government. IF that was related to the issue above — we now have about six new felonies… We do not have the transcripts of the phone calls yet, so we do not yet know.

Trump Ordered Aid to Ukraine Frozen Days Before Call With Its Leader

Why is the Trump-Ukraine whistleblower scandal so serious?

Like I said the tweet (stupid) was taken out of context. The Second Amendment actually guarantees the protections of the others. If you don't think there is an assault on free speech you are either clueless or too busy to pay attention. Check out college campuses. Conservative speakers, such as Ben Shapiro of all people are considered harbingers of hate speech and barred from many colleges. NY City just passed a law (will, be found Unconstitutional) that if you say the words in public, illegal alien you can be fined. You have Democrat candidates actually saying, yes we will come and get your assault rifle. Not that the idiots even know what an assault rifle would be. You may want them to take my AR 15, but according to the Constitution that would be illegal search and seizure and I don't give a damn whether you or some politician surrounded by armed body guards think I shouldn't be allowed to have one.

"There is no assault on the first and second amendments." - Coos Bay Tom

Yes there is.

Is is the liberal Left doing all the censoring.
Including Facebook and You Tube.

Watch Rachel Maddow get that STUPID SMIRK wiped off her face by Trump's Election
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/Ut0TaegQ-kw <<<< this was removed;
SOOOOOOO

Watch Rachel Maddow get that STUPID SMIRK wiped off her face by Trump's Election
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kei5QXLQ_kk

Like I said the tweet (stupid) was taken out of context. The Second Amendment actually guarantees the protections of the others. If you don't think there is an assault on free speech you are either clueless or too busy to pay attention. Check out college campuses. Conservative speakers, such as Ben Shapiro of all people are considered harbingers of hate speech and barred from many colleges. NY City just passed a law (will, be found Unconstitutional) that if you say the words in public, illegal alien you can be fined. You have Democrat candidates actually saying, yes we will come and get your assault rifle. Not that the idiots even know what an assault rifle would be. You may want them to take my AR 15, but according to the Constitution that would be illegal search and seizure and I don't give a damn whether you or some politician surrounded by armed body guards think I shouldn't be allowed to have one.

Actually many of those mass shootings were done with legally purchased firearms. However, not purchased by the shooter. Mass murders are horrific, but many many more murders are done with handguns in our large cities every weekend and not a peep from most. All most all those guns are obtained illegally. Most being killed weekly are black men by other black men. Most mass shootings are white men killing white people. Makes me wonder about congress's real agenda. It's obvious I don't trust the ass hates in Washington D.C.. That's one thing I am bi-partisan about. Both side suck.