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Sep 22, 2019 08:08:53   #
cbpat1
 
debeda wrote:
Breathtaking that we then turned around and elected Barack Hussein Obama, who filled the White House with muslims and filled our country with Muslim "refugees" while refusing to take Christian refugees from the same countries (and most of them are DEAD now, not just facing "hardships). We then proceeded to elect muslims into local offices, and now the federal government. We truly are insane, as a nation
Breathtaking that we then turned around and electe... (show quote)



I feel the exact same way. And you should see the Minneapolis airport. It is full of muslim’s. Cleaning the planes, working on the plane, fueling, loading luggage, it’s scary to know we as passengers have no choice but to trust these people that we know would just as soon kill us as look at us to provide safe transportation for us. It’s scary. I drive to Minnesota from now on. Am I a racist for feeling like this. Ask history if I am. I don’t feel I am, I just feel people should listen to that little voice in the back of their head.

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Sep 22, 2019 08:11:21   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Divine truth wrote:
Respect, and I just bear to differ, and we will WIN, and I have no doubts about it.

The TRUTH is on our side, the energy and unseen powerful spiritual forces in the universe, and outer universe.

Bear in mind, that its not a battle against flesh and blood, but against principalities and spiritual wickedness in high places.

I have been assured that victory belongs to the Almighty one, whom I call Allah (G-D), and respect all others G-D'S.

The greatest jihad is within, and Islam will battle against all EVIL, and prevail successfully. EVIL has reached it's Apex, and the New World Order is Islam, and peace, justice and equality, for all of humanity.
Respect, and I just bear to differ, and we will WI... (show quote)


Why do you hate Israel and the Jewish people so much? They have done nothing to harm you . On the other hand Islam and the followers of Mohamed have rained horror on the world.

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Sep 22, 2019 09:14:30   #
Mikeyavelli
 
debeda wrote:
I sincerely hope it never comes to that, but my own knowing tells me I and the real women of this country will prevail. I'm sorry you are blind.


See, they are here to convert the west.
And the lefties are willing to accept Muslim help to topple western civilization. They are not blind, they are well aware of what they are doing.
Dangerous people now amongst us.
We are supposed to tolerate them, but everything we do offends them.

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Sep 22, 2019 09:51:07   #
Radiance3
 
Larai wrote:
Nope!!...Will Never forget... including where I was at the time the 2nd plane hit...my then fiancee called me and told me to turn on the tv... at the time.. he thought it was just a high jacking until the first plane hit, got it turned on just in time to see the second plane hit....my sister lives in Erie, PA...my then fiancee was stunned probably like most of us were...My other sister was a flight attendant for American Airlines...she was freaked bc she very well could have been on any one of those flights two of them were American Airlines & the others were United Airlines...

The one time, this nation pulled together...for even a brief amount of time, there was no "partisan politics" but how quickly the progressive left seems to have forgotten..the muslims in our gov't seem almost pleased & Rep. Ilhan Omar "some people did something" Unbelievable!!
Nope!!...Will Never forget... including where I wa... (show quote)

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Islam will never stop until the whole world is converted for their god. The rapid spread of Islam from the 7th century starting from Mohammad of Mecca had spread all over the world so rapidly. Took over the Middle East killing Christians and Jews.

Muslim conquests following Muhammad's death led to the creation of the caliphates, occupying a vast geographical area; conversion to Islam was boosted by missionary activities, particularly those of Imams, who intermingled with local populations to propagate the religious teachings. As of 2019 Muslims are 1.8 billion people in the world, the fastest human explosion.

During the administration of Mr. Obama, Muslims US population increased with all kinds of terrorists included. This was the hope and change for Mr. Obama's promise for the religion of peace he described as the most beautiful sound in the world.

Read the Tears of Jihad, by Dr. Bill Warner. Now more than 270 million were killed. That was some years ago. By now, it must be more.

More later.

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Sep 22, 2019 09:53:05   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Women have always been subject to Muhammad's order in the Qur'an to husbands to beat their wives if they even suspect they might have been disobedient to them...

The Qur'an does not say beat your wife if she is disobedient; it says beat her if you merely "fear" or suspect disobedience.

Below are ten different translations of the notorious portion of Qur'an 4:34, the beat-your-disobedient-wife verse.

Six of the ten translations use the word "beat."

Two translations use the word "scourge," which as a verb means to whip.

And two of the translations use the word "chastise." Most dictionaries give corporal punishment (beating, or "stripes") as one of the main definitions of "chastise."

Please note that although some of the translators have inserted softening words in parentheses to make the command to beat their wives sound less harsh to western ears, none of these additions within parentheses are to be found in the original Arabic of the Qur'an.

Pickthall: "and scourge them"
Yusuf Ali: "(And last) beat them (lightly)"
Al-Hilali/Khan: "(and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful)"
Shakir: "and beat them"
Sher Ali: "and chastise them"
Khalifa: "then you may (as a last alternative) beat them"
Arberry: "and beat them"
Rodwell: "and scourge them"
Sale: "and chastise them"
Asad: "then beat them"
Dawood: "and beat them."

Here's that entire verse of Quran 4:34:

"Men have charge of women because Allah has preferred the one above the other and because they spend their wealth on them.
Right-acting women are obedient, safeguarding their husbands’ interests in their absence as Allah has guarded them.
If there are women whose disobedience you fear, you may admonish them, refuse to sleep with them, and then beat them.
But if they obey you, do not look for a way to punish them. Allah is All-High, Most Great."


debeda wrote:
Yes. If you look at pictures from the 50s it was very nice. And women weren't enslaved for the most part.

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Sep 22, 2019 10:31:27   #
bahmer
 
Zemirah wrote:
The day of September 11th, 2001 is permanently embedded in my memory, as surely as is my wedding day, the birth of my children, and the death of my parents.

"It is time we admitted that we are not at war with "terrorism," which is a tactic of war, not a flesh and blood enemy.

Islamic warriors are at war with us, consequently, we must wage war against those Islamic warriors who wage war against us.

Whether or not, we wish to fight a "religious war," one was violently brought to our sovereign soil on 9/11, 2001.

We are not at war with all Muslims, but we are absolutely at war with all who obey a vision of worldwide conquest (Jihad) which is commanded to all Muslims in the Qur'an, because they are at war with us, and they have every intention of killing us, our families, our communities and our nation, whom they consider infidels.

We have half-a**ed this war for eighteen years, and accomplished precious little, as we side-step the truth that the enemy is not a specific nation, nor a specific race of people, but those fanatical Islamic worshipers throughout the world, who believe and practice Jihad as commanded by that most evil of "unholy books," the Qu'ran.

I will never forget.
The day of September 11th, 2001 is permanently emb... (show quote)


Amen and Amen same here Zemirah same here.

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Sep 22, 2019 10:36:31   #
bahmer
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
For almost ten years I have conducted extensive and intensive research into not only the 9/11 attacks but also into the history of radical Islam.

Prior to 9/11, I had very little knowledge of the Muslim religion, I knew of course that there were Muslims in the middle east, but as far as I was concerned they had their thing and I didn't really care what that might be. Then when the attacks came on 9/11 and we learned within just a few days that Islamic terrorists were the suspected perpetrators, I grew quite curious about just what in God's name made these people tick. So, I began my own research.

As time passed, I read the 9/11 Commission Report, the NIST investigation, the FEMA reports, and whatever I could find in FBI archives and elsewhere. As extensive as it all was, I wasn't completely satisfied with what I had learned and this inspired me to go even deeper. So I began looking into Islam itself. As a starting point, I read quite a bit of the Qu'ran and other Islamic scripture. I discovered the Qu'ran prohibits Muslims from committing suicide, so I wondered what in world inspired Muslims to kill themselves in executing such a terrible act of terrorism.

Then I came across the name Sayyid Qutb and the picture completely changed. Things began to clear up a bit. Qutb was an Egyptian author, poet, journalist and teacher who was an outspoken critic of the Muslim world and he voiced an intense disapproval of the United States which he saw as materialistic, and obsessed with violence and sexual pleasures. To confirm his feelings about America, he came here in 1949, spent two years working and studying in Washington DC and Colorado. When he returned to Egypt in 1951, he was thoroughly radicalized.

Qutb then put all of his writing and journalistic skills to work in expounded the concept of violent Jihad. He usurped the teachings of the Qu'ran and began a campaign for Pure Islam. His writings, pamphlets, and speeches inspired many young Muslims with the doctrines of martyrdom and terrorism to achieve that goal. Among them were Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri. In fact he befriended these two men among others. One of those young Muslims inspired by Qutb and bin Laden was Mohammed Atta, the field commander of the 9/11 attacks. ,

Considered the god father of the Muslim Brotherhood, Qutb's efforts bore fruit, poisonous though it was, and violent Islamic fundamentalism was born. The foremost goal in Qutb's mind was to take down the secular government of Egypt and replace it with a purely Islamic theocracy much like that of the Iranian regime. Qutb called all true Muslims to jihad, or Holy War, against jahiliyya—which is to say, against modernity, which America so powerfully represents.

This philosophy led to Qutb’s execution in 1966. Proud to the end, he refused to accept the secular Egyptian leader Gamal Abdel Nasser’s offer of mercy in exchange for Qutb’s repudiation of his jihad. Nasser may have silenced a critic, but the martyrdom of Sayyid Qutb accelerated his movement. The same year the philosopher was hanged, the teenage al-Zawahiri formed his first violent cell, dedicated to the overthrow of the Egyptian government and the creation of an Islamist state.

At the conclusion of his book "The America I have seen" Qutb wrote, “Humanity makes the gravest of errors and risks losing its account of morals, if it makes America its example.” In other words, he pinned a bulls eye on the United States.

Qutb's writings and his martyrdom heavily influenced bin Laden, al-Zawahiri and many other now radicalized Muslims into their terrorist campaigns to punish, even destroy, not only the United States but any secular government running a Muslim country.

Lawrence Wright is a Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist, his book The Looming Tower: Al Qaeda and the Road to 9/11 is the definitive work on the history leading to the seminal event in Islamic terrorism.

"What a riveting tale Lawrence Wright fashions in this marvelous book. The Looming Tower is not just a detailed, heart-stopping account of the events leading up to 9/11, written with style and verve. It's a thoughtful examination of the world that produced the men who brought us 9/11, and of their progeny who bedevil us today . . Wright has unearthed an astonishing amount of detail about Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri... and all the rest of them. They come alive . . . The portrait of John O'Neill, the driven, demon-ridden F.B.I, agent who worked so frantically to stop Osama bin Laden, only to perish in the attack on the World Trade Center, is worth the price of the book alone. The Looming-Tower is, a thriller. And it's a tragedy, too."
New York Times book review

During his investigation, Wright interviewed over 500 people both Americans and Muslims who were directly involved or connected in some way with this history. Among them were some members of Osama bin Laden's family.

Israel had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the attacks on 9/11, and this WAS NOT a false flag operation. Islamic terrorists planned, financed, and executed the attacks.
For almost ten years I have conducted extensive an... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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Sep 22, 2019 10:48:25   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
debeda wrote:
But to qualify that statement and speak to Bobby's point, middle eastern people have, for centuries been warlike, and have a culture of entitlement that if they can manage to take something from others, they will. Only good thing to come from the middle east is the US Marine corps, which was formed to deal with the barbary pirates...


OohRaaa Deb~

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Sep 22, 2019 11:13:27   #
debeda
 
Larai wrote:
Nope... Not this woman either!


I'm with ya, sister🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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Sep 22, 2019 11:17:03   #
debeda
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
For almost ten years I have conducted extensive and intensive research into not only the 9/11 attacks but also into the history of radical Islam.

Prior to 9/11, I had very little knowledge of the Muslim religion, I knew of course that there were Muslims in the middle east, but as far as I was concerned they had their thing and I didn't really care what that might be. Then when the attacks came on 9/11 and we learned within just a few days that Islamic terrorists were the suspected perpetrators, I grew quite curious about just what in God's name made these people tick. So, I began my own research.

As time passed, I read the 9/11 Commission Report, the NIST investigation, the FEMA reports, and whatever I could find in FBI archives and elsewhere. As extensive as it all was, I wasn't completely satisfied with what I had learned and this inspired me to go even deeper. So I began looking into Islam itself. As a starting point, I read quite a bit of the Qu'ran and other Islamic scripture. I discovered the Qu'ran prohibits Muslims from committing suicide, so I wondered what in world inspired Muslims to kill themselves in executing such a terrible act of terrorism.

Then I came across the name Sayyid Qutb and the picture completely changed. Things began to clear up a bit. Qutb was an Egyptian author, poet, journalist and teacher who was an outspoken critic of the Muslim world and he voiced an intense disapproval of the United States which he saw as materialistic, and obsessed with violence and sexual pleasures. To confirm his feelings about America, he came here in 1949, spent two years working and studying in Washington DC and Colorado. When he returned to Egypt in 1951, he was thoroughly radicalized.

Qutb then put all of his writing and journalistic skills to work in expounded the concept of violent Jihad. He usurped the teachings of the Qu'ran and began a campaign for Pure Islam. His writings, pamphlets, and speeches inspired many young Muslims with the doctrines of martyrdom and terrorism to achieve that goal. Among them were Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri. In fact he befriended these two men among others. One of those young Muslims inspired by Qutb and bin Laden was Mohammed Atta, the field commander of the 9/11 attacks. ,

Considered the god father of the Muslim Brotherhood, Qutb's efforts bore fruit, poisonous though it was, and violent Islamic fundamentalism was born. The foremost goal in Qutb's mind was to take down the secular government of Egypt and replace it with a purely Islamic theocracy much like that of the Iranian regime. Qutb called all true Muslims to jihad, or Holy War, against jahiliyya—which is to say, against modernity, which America so powerfully represents.

This philosophy led to Qutb’s execution in 1966. Proud to the end, he refused to accept the secular Egyptian leader Gamal Abdel Nasser’s offer of mercy in exchange for Qutb’s repudiation of his jihad. Nasser may have silenced a critic, but the martyrdom of Sayyid Qutb accelerated his movement. The same year the philosopher was hanged, the teenage al-Zawahiri formed his first violent cell, dedicated to the overthrow of the Egyptian government and the creation of an Islamist state.

At the conclusion of his book "The America I have seen" Qutb wrote, “Humanity makes the gravest of errors and risks losing its account of morals, if it makes America its example.” In other words, he pinned a bulls eye on the United States.

Qutb's writings and his martyrdom heavily influenced bin Laden, al-Zawahiri and many other now radicalized Muslims into their terrorist campaigns to punish, even destroy, not only the United States but any secular government running a Muslim country.

Lawrence Wright is a Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist, his book The Looming Tower: Al Qaeda and the Road to 9/11 is the definitive work on the history leading to the seminal event in Islamic terrorism.

"What a riveting tale Lawrence Wright fashions in this marvelous book. The Looming Tower is not just a detailed, heart-stopping account of the events leading up to 9/11, written with style and verve. It's a thoughtful examination of the world that produced the men who brought us 9/11, and of their progeny who bedevil us today . . Wright has unearthed an astonishing amount of detail about Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri... and all the rest of them. They come alive . . . The portrait of John O'Neill, the driven, demon-ridden F.B.I, agent who worked so frantically to stop Osama bin Laden, only to perish in the attack on the World Trade Center, is worth the price of the book alone. The Looming-Tower is, a thriller. And it's a tragedy, too."
New York Times book review

During his investigation, Wright interviewed over 500 people both Americans and Muslims who were directly involved or connected in some way with this history. Among them were some members of Osama bin Laden's family.

Israel had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the attacks on 9/11, and this WAS NOT a false flag operation. Islamic terrorists planned, financed, and executed the attacks.
For almost ten years I have conducted extensive an... (show quote)


Terrific info. THANKS

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Sep 22, 2019 11:17:39   #
debeda
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
Amazing how we have allowed him into office to destroy us as a nation!



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Sep 22, 2019 11:23:40   #
debeda
 
Zemirah wrote:
Condemn what you will, DT, my statements were in no way racist, as I'm sure you well know.

Everything I said about Islam is totally true, and furthermore it is just the tip of the iceberg. My statement was neither malicious or in anyway dysfunctional.

It's so easy for you to squawl, "racism," whenever anything is said with which you disagree, but it is purely intellectual laziness on your part, for it spares you the mental exercise of actively engaging in intelligent discourse after research and documentation.

Anyone, and that would include you, who claims that the attacks against the United States on 9/11/2001 were not committed by Islamic men, reduced to the level of murderous savages in a trance state, from the occultic memorization and chanting of the Qur'an and accompanying brainwashing techniques commonly utilized by Bin Laden's demonically driven trainers, is not telling the truth.

The evil unleashed against the U.S. on 9/11 came straight out of Bin Laden's Islamic Sunni Wahabist training camps, after years of practice in fanaticism.

These Islamic terrorist men were reduced to subhuman, trance walking, totally hate consumed, pre-programmed zombies. This has been common practice within Islam since it's inception in the 7th century.

“Shiite Cleric Sabah Shabr: Islam Was Spread by the Sword; So What?!,” MEMRI, October 13, 2015:

"Iraqi Shiite cleric Sabah Shabr discussed the spread of Islam in a series of lectures about Jihad. Sabah confirmed that most Islamic countries were conquered by force. He said that Muslims should not try to appease the Jews and Christians by denying this and that the “true religion of Allah should be spread by the sword.”

Sheikh Shabr added that when Muslims conquer the country of infidels, they should give the locals the opportunity to convert to Islam or kill them. If the locals are from among the People of the Book, i.e., Jews or Christians, they should have the third option of paying the jizya poll tax in exchange for being allowed to live. The entire series of lectures was posted on October 13, 2015 on a YouTube account, dedicated to the thinking of Ayatollah Sistani.

I have within my possession over forty books, including four versions of the Qur'an, authenticating the history of Islam; I have studied them since 1980... as I had just began a seven year employment by a Middle East, Arab Muslim Enterprise at that time, and initially sought information on Islam's foundation, history, beliefs and practices.

Where is your "evidence" that Islam is a religion of sweetness and light, - or that Islam is a religion at all, rather than the all-consuming, all-encompassing, Nazi-style way of life that it is?
Condemn what you will, DT, my statements were in n... (show quote)


Muslims are taught in their "religious" classes that they are superior. Look at their actions. Christian missionaries around the world bring medicines, succor and kindness. Christian countries send help to distressed countries and have welcomed refugees over the years with a safe haven and help.
In contrast, Muslim countries offer beheadings, stoning and rape to "infidels". In their countries if you dont convert to their God you are reviled. You are charged an extra "tax" to live. And if you sully muslims in any way (like offering them water from your well, or drinking from theirs) you are jailed and executed.
So who is godly, and who is driven by Satan?????

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Sep 22, 2019 11:27:46   #
debeda
 
cbpat1 wrote:
I feel the exact same way. And you should see the Minneapolis airport. It is full of muslim’s. Cleaning the planes, working on the plane, fueling, loading luggage, it’s scary to know we as passengers have no choice but to trust these people that we know would just as soon kill us as look at us to provide safe transportation for us. It’s scary. I drive to Minnesota from now on. Am I a racist for feeling like this. Ask history if I am. I don’t feel I am, I just feel people should listen to that little voice in the back of their head.
I feel the exact same way. And you should see the ... (show quote)


I think you're using justifiable caution. Why should we trust a people who see us as "infidels", and their manifesto says infidels must die?

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Sep 22, 2019 11:29:00   #
debeda
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
See, they are here to convert the west.
And the lefties are willing to accept Muslim help to topple western civilization. They are not blind, they are well aware of what they are doing.
Dangerous people now amongst us.
We are supposed to tolerate them, but everything we do offends them.


PLUS they treat women as unclean things and slaves. Sorry, Charlie, not for this girl!

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Sep 22, 2019 11:31:21   #
debeda
 
Jakebrake wrote:
OohRaaa Deb~



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