Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

Seems like they love a conspiracy theory unless, heaven forbid, it makes them look not so pure. Then it is the ol' blind eye treatment.

Totally didn't mention the fact that Clinton, upon leaving office, warned W that Bin Laden was a major threat. Guess the Shrub was just too damn busy busy cutting the bush on the ranch to keep his eye on business. (or is that Bush cutting the shrub on the ranch?? Oh well, no matter.)

Yes, the constitution and all the good things this fine country was founded on are all hunky dory until, well, I guess until they aren't hunky dory anymore if they don't fit their schemes...I guess? Hitler might ring a bell yes. Oh yeah, on that subject, should have brought ol' bin's head back so as to play french football with it. Put us more on the same plane as the Muslims, don't ya think?

Yes, 3000 people died on 9/11 (which they totally ignored that 9/11 might not have even happened if W wasn't at the helm, as long as we are speculating or conspirasizing). Hmmm. What about all our boys and girls that perished fighting a war in the wrong country for the wrong reason? Just sweep them under the rug I reckon.

And I dare "blather" about making friends and influencing people? She obviously hasn't heard of the highly technical CIA term "blowback". Perhaps an increase in vocabulary might be in order on her part? Oh but I reckon that isn't mentioned in the Book she reads most.

Seems there was a comment about libs talking to death? Well, R, seems most of our posts are short sweet and to the point, no? They are the ones that post something that takes 3 cups of coffee and possibly a couple of snacks to get through.

At first thought I thought you might be just a bit harsh on the poor old dears about getting nuttier all the time. But upon closer examination....NAAAAH!

Hungry Freaks

Lily

Can you prove you stupid comments. Is "06" your IQ?

Hungry Freaks

Yeah, yeah yeah, my military "views" are "off," meaning not rabid right wing fringe, therefore I'm not a veteran. Heard it before from some of the right fringe, dutchie and the likes, but it matters nothing to me. I don't

I never doubted your service until you started slinging shit in your curious and varied CVs. You may not care, but I still say bullshit, not for your views, but for your Telling of Tall Tales about your Great Military Exploits. .Yours are enough to make dutchie blush.

So it's refreshing to heard my opinion means nothing to you. It apparently did because you tried for so long to impress God knows who with the exploits of your service. I still say bullshit to your varied Cvs recently posted. I used to be disgusted, know I'm just amused as the song goes.

Still get your stories straight. They're not despite your claims to the contrary

Hungry Freaks

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grace-don't worry. My blood pressure is fine. I do get a perverse pleasure out of needling vehoe and his delusional or mendacious story telling and had sworn off replying to him until he came up with the curious resumes. I'm sorry. I couldn't help myself.

there are a few rabid right fringe types who claim that, because I don't share the same rabid right viewpoints that I can't possibility be a veteran. I was drafted, into the marines of all places, and was not a willing participant. I only wish it weren't true.

After being called a druggie, drunkard, lair and senile old man for correcting some factual mistakes in vetoes posts, I finally responded in kind, much to my discredit. And when he started selling this "man of action-a real combat guy" stuff, I started seeing holes a miles wide in his 'combat' stories.

While not impossible, the military doesn't take a medical doctor and spend millions to train him as a pilot, as vehoes latest CV claims. but that's immaterial. If he's lying, it's on him, his problem. If he's delusional, as I thing is quite possible, that may one day become society's problems. But since he made these statements on a public form, I responded with a twinkle in my eye. Shame on me, I guess. I'm not sure what hes trying to prove to whom, but he sure spends a lot of time on the forum for such a "man of action."

I don't spend a lot of time on this forum especially now that it's spring. I''m not out smelling the roses, yet, but tending my plantings. Your reminder will force me to get out an trim the rose bushes, something I've held out doing because of our cold early spring weather and the difficulty of the task-I'v not practiced enough in art of pruning roses. Peach and apple trees, yes, but roses? Not yet. I do have peas, greens and root crops up from this year's planting, but it's still been a brutally cold spring. Without tunnels, I would have lost everything 10 days ago when temps dipped into the low 20s. I've got 14 acres here in NJ, 2-1/2 in plantings, so the spring is a busy time-too busy to engage in futile battles with a closed and poisoned mind.

Thanks for the admonishment. It's well deserved. I'll keep my naughty fingers of the keyboard no matter what nonsense some of the rabid righties throw out there. Except when......

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

You know, even though scripture gets put down and blown off by many, if there were others that studied scripture true to heart as I did just before 9/11/2001, Revelation 9:11 gives you the name as well as the date '9:11' that this would occur. Apollyon simply means 'many' where the A in latin means 'without,' as in without God.

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
(Revelation 9:11)

Ab in Hebrew means father. The human father, not our Spiritual God called 'ABBA' by Jesus, as in Father (God) of the Eternal S-abba-th (Sabbath) that is Heaven.
So Ab means an ancient father as in the Ephramite Fraudulent Priest Laddan. In Greek the letter "L" means father as well. Addan is the very most ancient spelling of Aden since spelling changed through the ages. "Bin" in Hebrew means 'Son of'. So Bin Laden was of the evil lineage of a Ephramite passing himself off as a Holy Levitical Priest, called on by God.
Abaddon = Bin Laden, on 9/11, Revelation 9:ll.

I came across this when I was writing my book of Biblical Interpretations in 2000, and sent for my own copyright at the Library of Congress to cover my work before actual publication.

No one could ever steer me away from Jesus Christ, no matter how powerful they feel their own carnal mind and ideas are.

bahmer

Quite interesting thank you very much. I am always eager to do studies like this as we all can learn.

grace scott

grace scott

Hit the send button by mistake, obviously.

Your reply brought back wonderful memories. We down-sized, sold the farm and moved into town. The peas and greens were my husbands, but I miss my fruit trees, blackberries and strawberries. Thanks for rousing those memories.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

You're serious, aren't you? How can Democrats be Christians! They mock the words of Jesus. They use His name as a swear word. They take pride in flaunting the law of God. Every perversion of sexuality and personal conduct is OK by them, but more than that they want to drag everyone else down with them. They delight in destroying the hard work of some in order to curry favor with others - like promising free stuff to the poor to buy votes. They make the poor dependent on handouts rather than helping them to be independent and responsible. They use the law to steal from folks who support their families and work every day. They promote the murder of unborn children for the convenience of adults so that they can screw their brains out and not have to deal with the natural consequence. Their policies couldn't be more poisonous to the basic unit of civilized society - the family - if they were trying to destroy it.

My post is an inaccurate, one sided view, just like yours. Rhetoric! I don't believe it even though there is an element of truth to it. It paints Democrats unfairly in a broad brush. Of course there are plenty of good, Christian Democrats just like there are plenty of good, Christian Republicans.

Ve'hoe

Well,,, not quite true, but what is about you? A Silver star, is second only to a Congressional Medal Of Honor,,, not given for "just being there" there has to be conspicuous gallantry, like you describe,,, If, a Marine did as you claim, it was so noted in the citation, because that type of heroism is rare.

The fight with the 9th marines in the ashau valley took place January 22 through March 18, 1969, so if you were wounded and only stayed a few months, you could have been there, could have done that.

You have stated before:
"I was in the 1/9, Walking Dead (First Battalion 9th Marines)"

"I was wounded in the A Shau Valley in February 1969 where the 9th marines attacked, took every objective we were ordered to and left it for the NVA to re-occupy within weeks, if not days. I still have less than full function of my left hand and shrapnel in my left arm and body from where a Chinese potato masher grenade landed near me and my platoon leader and I attempted to throw it back. I also have a Silver Star for that act of of desperate survival instinct."

"Even Dennis knows how to make a point-he corrected me on what year Vietnam had the most KIAs, albeit with an insult thrown in for good measure. . I was only there for a little less than two months in 1969 so I guess it was a mistake to think it was as bad the entire 12. Thanks Dennis. "

I have reviewed ALL the Silver Star Citations for Vietnam,,, here are the only 7 describing action the likes of which you claim.

Pick which one is you....

BROWN, RJ
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pride in presenting the Silver Star Medal to R J, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving in the Republic of Vietnam. Brown's unit was assigned the mission of aiding a Marine rifle company which was engaged with a numerically superior force of North Vietnamese Army Regulars. Disregarding his own safety, Brown unhesitatingly volunteered to lead a rescue detail forward of friendly lines to evacuate casualties and assist other Marines who were temporarily separated from their units. While maneuvering across the hazardous terrain, the rescue team came under increasingly heavy small-arms and automatic weapons fire and was forced to take cover in a nearby shell hole. As the Marines delivered effective return fire, an enemy hand grenade landed in the crater. Reacting instantly, Brown ignored the danger to himself, picked up the deadly grenade and threw it out of the crater where it exploded. Although painfully wounded by grenade fragments, he continued to direct his unit's return fire and, when superiority was gained, led his men in the search for casualties. After supervising the evacuation of several wounded comrades, he observed an enemy mortar delivering fire against Marine positions. Deploying his men, he skillfully led them against the hostile emplacement and quickly silenced the enemy mortar and a nearby machine gun position. Subsequently, he directed the withdrawal of his men to friendly lines and assisted in consolidating the defensive perimeter. His heroic and timely actions in the face of great personal danger were an inspiration to all who observed him and undoubtedly saved the lives of several fellow Marines. By his courage, outstanding professionalism and selfless devotion to duty, Brown contributed significantly to the accomplishment of his unit's mission and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: Pine Beach, New Jersey
GIRETTI, A A.
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pride in presenting the Silver Star Medal to A A. Giretti , U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as in connection with operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On 19 March 1969, during Operation Purple Martin near fire support base Neville in Quang Tri Province, Giretti's patrol was preparing to provide security for the eastern flank of the company when his Marines came under a heavy volume of small arms fire and hand grenade attack. Observing that a hostile machine gun emplacement was preventing the advance of his men, Giretti completely disregarded his own safety as he rushed across the fire-swept terrain and, armed only with a grenade and a pistol, aggressively assaulted and destroyed the enemy position. As he fearlessly moved toward a second objective, he was seriously wounded and knocked to the ground by small arms fire. Steadfastly determined to continue his attack, he was resolutely attempting to rise when he was wounded by the detonation of a hostile explosive device. His heroic and timely actions inspired all who observed him and were instrumental in his company's subsequent defeat of the enemy. By his courage, bold initiative and unwavering devotion to duty, Giretti contributed significantly to the accomplishment of his unit's mission and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: Baldwin, New York
HERROD, RD.
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pleasure in presenting the Silver Star Medal to R D. Herrod Private First Class, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as an Assistant Machine Gunner, in connection with operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On 28 July 1969, Company K was occupying a night defensive position approximately three miles northwest of Cam Lo. Suddenly, the Marines came under heavy ground attack by a large North Vietnamese Army force utilizing mortars, automatic weapons, and rocket-propelled grenades. During the initial moments of the firefight, a hostile rocket-propelled grenade exploded in Private First Class Herrod's fighting position, seriously wounding him and his two companions. After dragging his comrades to a position of relative safety, he boldly shielded them from further injuries with his own body and commenced delivering effective M-60 machine gun fire at the enemy. Alertly observing several hostile soldiers who were attempting to destroy nearby tanks with hand grenades, Private First Class Herrod delivered such accurate fire with his weapon that the enemy soldiers were forced to abandon their mission. When the hostile unit turned its attention to his machine gun position, Private First Class Herrod, completely disregarding his own painful wound, resolutely maintained his exposed position and continued to fire at the enemy until reinforcements arrived. His heroic and timely actions and sincere concern for the welfare of his fellow man inspired all who observed him. By his courage, aggressive fighting spirit and selfless devotion to duty in the face of extreme personal danger, Private First Class Herrod contributed significantly to the subsequent defeat of the North Vietnamese Army force and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: Calvin, Oklahoma
KEEFE, F M.
Citation:The President of the United States takes pride in presenting the Silver Star Medal to F M. Keefe , U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as First Battalion, Ninth Marines, Third Marine Division, in connection with operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On 19 March 1969, the Battalion Command Post at Phu Lac came under an intense ground attack from approximately two hundred enemy sappers who were supported by rockets and mortars. Reacting instantly, Keefe was rushing to his defensive position adjacent to the mess hall when he observed six hostile soldiers who had penetrated the defensive wire and were moving toward the command bunker. Realizing the seriousness of the situation, he fearlessly moved between the enemy and the command bunker and began delivering rifle fire upon the soldiers who were firing at him. After killing one hostile soldier and forcing the others to take cover, Keefe continued firing his rifle as he attempted to reach a fighting trench, but was knocked to the ground by the explosion of an enemy grenade. His heroic and timely actions inspired all who observed him and were instrumental in preventing the destruction of the Battalion Command Bunker. By his courage, aggressive fighting spirit and selfless devotion to duty, Keefe upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: Montgomery, Alabama

KUEHLMANN, W G.
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pleasure in presenting the Silver Star Medal to W G. Kuehlmann , Lance Corporal, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as a Rifleman with Company K, First Battalion, Ninth Marines, Third Marine Division, in connection with operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. Operation MEADE RIVER, Company K was occupying a night defensive position when Kuehlmann, alertly observed a hostile soldier throwing a hand grenade into the perimeter. When the grenade impacted just a few inches from the head of a sleeping Marine, Kuehlmann, fully aware that it might explode at any instant, unhesitatingly left his relative safe position and rushed to pick up the lethal object. Fearlessly hurling the grenade at the retreating enemy, Kuehlmann was wounded when it detonated immediately after leaving his hand. His heroic actions and sincere concern for the welfare of a companion inspired all who observed him and prevented a serious injury or possible death of a fellow Marine. By his courage, bold initiative, and selfless devotion to duty in the face of great personal danger, Kuehlmann upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

SCALICI, D F.
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pleasure in presenting of the Silver Star Medal to DF. Scalici Corporal, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as a Fire Team Leader Company L, First Battalion, Ninth Marines, Third Marine Division in connection with operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam While occupying a night defensive position , company L came under a heavy volume of artillery and recoilless rifle fire supporting ground assault by a large North Vietnamese Army force. A friendly listening post, which had sustained a casualty during the initial moments of the firefight, was returning to the perimeter. Upon learning about the situation, Corporal Scalici, then a Lance Corporal fearlessly exposed himself to enemy fire as he maneuvered across the hazardous terrain to assist the wounded mean. Alertly observing an enemy hand grenade land dangerously close to his position, Corporal Scalici unhesitatingly threw his body across that of his wounded comrade, shielding him from further injury. Although painfully wounded by the exploding hostile grenade, Corporal Scalici resolutely returned to his Fire Team and continued to direct his men in the defense of his sector of the company perimeter until directly ordered to withdraw for treatment of his wounds. His heroic and timely actions inspired all who observed him and were instrumental in saving the life of a fellow Marine. By his courage, bold initiative and steadfast devotion to duty in the face of great personal danger, Corporal Scalici upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: St. Paul, Minnesota

SCANLON, M J.
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pride in presenting the Silver Star Medal to M J. Scanlon , Corporal, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as a Rifleman with Detachment, First Battalion, Ninth Marine Regiment, THIRD Marine Division, during operations against the enemy in Vietnam. Throughout the night, the Marines heard sounds of enemy activity. At dawn on 18 January, a numerically superior North Vietnamese Army patrol of approximately forty men was sighted moving toward their position. Corporal Scanlon quickly moved to his defensive position where he was observed by the approaching enemy. Demonstrating exceptional presence of mind, he warned his companions and immediately opened fire at the lead man of the North Vietnamese unit. His continued to bring effective fire to bear on the advancing enemy although wounded twice as the North Vietnamese moved to within fifteen meters of his position. Exhibiting exemplary courage and aggressive fighting spirit despite his painful wounds and the intense enemy fire directed at him, Corporal Scanlon maintained his position and halted the enemy's attempts to dislodge the flank security. When an enemy hand grenade landed within the patrol's defensive perimeter Corporal Scanlon, with complete disregard for his own safety, valiantly attempted to recover the grenade but was wounded. By his extraordinary courage, bold initiative, and selfless devotion to duty, Corporal Scanlon saved the lives of several Marines, inspired all those who observed him and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: Norwalk, Connecticut

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Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

After reading the Democrat platform on pre-eminence for Homosexuals and an abortion for every household, why would not these Christians then leave that party with great haste?

Serious question.

Any man can only straddle so many fences without singing soprano.

Republicans have great faults, but those two issues are not entertained on their campaign platforms, at least not yet.

I would have to hold my nose to vote for Republicans because of their chosen leadership in the House, and in the Senate, plus the literal millions they've already contracted to Carl Rove again for his worthless campaign ad efforts in 2016, is repulsive.

When the only opposing party with any viability has a

platform built on 1) gay sex and 2) dead babies, where is

the alternative, not only for a Christian, but any person of

sound mind and moral character?

Not-a-RINO Loc: Michigan

Misinformation seems to be your forte.

It has been said Democrats claim compassion when they get more people on food stamps. Republicans claim compassion when people no longer need them. Democrats want more and more families on public assistance because it's easier to control them. After all, on the Democrat Welfare Plantation, about 95% vote Democrat and you can see how well that has worked for these fine folks. Republicans want more people working to support their family.

Personally, because the Democrats have shown themselves to be unmitigated liars, thieves, and moral reprobates, I simply cannot understand how anyone could possibly call themselves a Christian and a Democrat in the same breath. After all, it was at the last Democrat presidential convention they booed God. What does that tell you?

I am a devout Christian and a Republican, but I am a Republican who has both eyes open - one who doesn't blindly support anyone with an (R) next to their name. I also encourage everyone to do their homework before election time and study all the candidates.

One thing is certain: Nearly all politicians say, "SCREW YOU!" just like, "Trust me."

Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

I'm glad you have both eyes open. Please do be cautious who you believe.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

...so a while ago, you accused me of such broad strokes and yet here you go...doing the same, think about this:

For who knows a person's thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 1 Corinthians 2:11