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Sep 4, 2019 18:51:55   #
son of witless
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
This I can understand... But I still can't comprehend bringing such individuals into one's nation....


I agree with you on this point. I think we already have way too many people in this country. I love every empty space and I am puzzled by all of these liberals who claim to care about the ENVIRONMENT, and who desperately wish to black top it over so the can fill it up with illegal immigrant voters.

That said, I think we can easily find room for 10 or 20 thousand well educated, motivated, English speaking anti Communists. I liken them to the hundreds of thousands of Eastern Europeans who came to America in the Post WW2 era. Those good folks lived under Communism, so they are hard working and cannot be seduced by Liberal Democrats the way native born American Youths can be. I have met many Poles and East Germans, and others. As a group you could not ask for better Americans. They do not go around with chips on their shoulders.

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Sep 4, 2019 18:55:52   #
trucksterbud
 
Kevyn wrote:
Millions in Hong Kong have taken to the streets in an effort to insure they are able to control their own destiny and keep from under the heel of the Chinese dictatorship. Even though the Idiot Pumpkinfuhrer is in a losing trade war with china his administration has said nothing supporting these brave people fighting for their freedom. Our foreign policy goal of promoting freedom and self determination have been thrown out the window in exchange for purely business pursuits. In my opinion the west needs to support the people of Hong Kong in every way we can making it clear to China that a crack down in Hong Kong will result in brutal sanctions from the west including the freezing of Chinese assets around the world. Further the British should grant citizenship to anyone born in the city when it was a British holding. This would threaten China with an enormous loss of assets and brainpower if they misbehave.
Millions in Hong Kong have taken to the streets in... (show quote)


Just a note for ya Kevvy, merely in basic human freedoms China is already scared to death of American values, and is part and parcel to why China hasn't ALREADY made a massive military move on Hong Kong.

China IS scared of what the Americans will do, and the people of Hong Kong already KNOW we are with them. I realize this escapes you, and of course you need to somehow to blame it all on Trump.

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Sep 5, 2019 06:14:51   #
PeterS
 
BigMike wrote:
Not this one...except Trump knows what he's doing.

If WWIII kicks off in Asia there's going to me massive casualties.

There are massive casualties in every war Mike...and it continues long after the war is over...

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Sep 5, 2019 06:19:36   #
PeterS
 
trucksterbud wrote:
Just a note for ya Kevvy, merely in basic human freedoms China is already scared to death of American values, and is part and parcel to why China hasn't ALREADY made a massive military move on Hong Kong.

China IS scared of what the Americans will do, and the people of Hong Kong already KNOW we are with them. I realize this escapes you, and of course, you need to somehow to blame it all on Trump.

China has the ability to make the US dollar worthless in the world yet you think it's they who Trimble before us? How naive you con's truly are...

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Sep 5, 2019 08:55:56   #
Seth
 
PeterS wrote:
China has the ability to make the US dollar worthless in the world yet you think it's they who Trimble before us? How naive you con's truly are...


You go ahead and "trimble" to your heart's content.

Those tariffs and their responses are hurting China's economy a lot worse than they're hurting us. They need trade with the U.S. more than we need trade with them.

Then there are Homeland Security considerations, such as Beijing's requiring U.S. tech firms that manufacture over there to share their proprietary information. Much of that shared technology aids China in penetrating our government's IT security (go figure, firms that support the Democratic Party selling out our country to milk a few more bucks in profits -- where's your outrage at that?) and screwing around with our social media, etc. They also use the usurped technology to undermine our markets with cheaper knock-off products. That's all also part of the issue where Trump's negotiations with China are concerned.

Most of the farmers your ilk purports to be concerned about -- face it, you folks couldn't care less, for you the farmers are just a vehicle for Trump bashing -- aren't as "up in arms" as you are -- they understand that ultimately, better trade deals will benefit them in the long-term.

What's hurting them more is the elongation of the time it's taking to get negotiations off the ground, and that's entirely the fault of you lefties and the Democratic Party.

Why? Because the entire world, including China, watches our politics, and you lefties, with your constant lying forecasting that Trump is "going down" and your incessant attacks on his presidency send a message that he may be gone after the 2020 election, so all they have to do is bide their time and in January 2021 they'll have another Democrat POTUS to walk on and it will be back to "business as usual."

It's you lefties' big mouths and incessant bullshit that sabotages the country more than anything else.

Trump will be reelected and we will win the so-called "trade war," but it's the Democrats and the mainstream media who are ultimately making the inevitable take longer.

And you are utterly shameless hypocrites -- it was your ilk that called those same farmers deplorables who "cling" to religion and guns who now express phony concern for their well-being because it fits into your sleazy political agendas.

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Sep 5, 2019 12:21:30   #
JoyV
 
Seth wrote:
You go ahead and "trimble" to your heart's content.

Those tariffs and their responses are hurting China's economy a lot worse than they're hurting us. They need trade with the U.S. more than we need trade with them.

Then there are Homeland Security considerations, such as Beijing's requiring U.S. tech firms that manufacture over there to share their proprietary information. Much of that shared technology aids China in penetrating our government's IT security (go figure, firms that support the Democratic Party selling out our country to milk a few more bucks in profits -- where's your outrage at that?) and screwing around with our social media, etc. They also use the usurped technology to undermine our markets with cheaper knock-off products. That's all also part of the issue where Trump's negotiations with China are concerned.

Most of the farmers your ilk purports to be concerned about -- face it, you folks couldn't care less, for you the farmers are just a vehicle for Trump bashing -- aren't as "up in arms" as you are -- they understand that ultimately, better trade deals will benefit them in the long-term.

What's hurting them more is the elongation of the time it's taking to get negotiations off the ground, and that's entirely the fault of you lefties and the Democratic Party.

Why? Because the entire world, including China, watches our politics, and you lefties, with your constant lying forecasting that Trump is "going down" and your incessant attacks on his presidency send a message that he may be gone after the 2020 election, so all they have to do is bide their time and in January 2021 they'll have another Democrat POTUS to walk on and it will be back to "business as usual."

It's you lefties' big mouths and incessant bullshit that sabotages the country more than anything else.

Trump will be reelected and we will win the so-called "trade war," but it's the Democrats and the mainstream media who are ultimately making the inevitable take longer.

And you are utterly shameless hypocrites -- it was your ilk that called those same farmers deplorables who "cling" to religion and guns who now express phony concern for their well-being because it fits into your sleazy political agendas.
You go ahead and "trimble" to your heart... (show quote)



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Sep 5, 2019 14:09:34   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
PeterS wrote:
There are massive casualties in every war Mike...and it continues long after the war is over...


A million people were never killed in a single declared war prior to WW1

WW1...8-10 million

WW2...60+ million (stalin 20+, cultural revolution 50+ million adds to 130+ million)

see a logarithm?

WW3...

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Sep 5, 2019 14:37:26   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
PeterS wrote:
China has the ability to make the US dollar worthless in the world yet you think it's they who Trimble before us? How naive you con's truly are...


The dollar IS worthless.

The bill in your wallet is a dollar in debt.

It was borrowed by the government from the "Federal" Reserve, a private organization, with interest out of funds they create from NOTHING.

In '71 Nixon took us off gold and the petrodollar came into being. Nixon bad, Bush bad, Big Oil bad, right?

The petrodollar has been the justification for all our ME BS intusions...resulting in untold death and destruction there and costing trillions...

...and somehow the people behind all this misery have convinced YOU people to carry water for them.

That makes no sense to me.

Our struggle here is with elitists (who wouldn't piss on you if your guts were on fire) and the rest of us...and you defend them! How is this???

The poles have shifted! Trump (no R) and Trump supporters (not as R as they think ,most of them) have mutinied, seized the vessel (Republican Party), made a few real bastards walk the plank (retire, resign, decide not to run in 2018 and indicted two ) and the ones who didn't in 2018 had better get a move on or they'll get the cat' o' nine tails before we let them walk the plank. You'll see some guys get wise and get out. Relatively clean Rs can stay if cooperate.

Dems want war and don't give a fk about sending the kids off, apparently. What a trip for a guy who was a kid while the Beatles were singing All You Need is Love on the radio.

Trump wants to take us back to gold like it was when Kennedy and Johnson were in office and the Great Society began just a few years before. Gold good, Kennedy good, Johnson good, Great Society good, right?

We commandeered the Republicans because they were Deep State's weakest link...how did they get YOU to defend them? I think you're under a spell or hypnosis or something.

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Sep 5, 2019 20:29:23   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
China has the ability to make the US dollar worthless in the world yet you think it's they who Trimble before us? How naive you con's truly are...


So why haven't they done it ? Answer, because they can't. Once again you have no clue about the things you are talking about.

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Sep 5, 2019 22:31:41   #
trucksterbud
 
PeterS wrote:
China has the ability to make the US dollar worthless in the world yet you think it's they who Trimble before us? How naive you con's truly are...


Wow petey, guess you really got me pegged don't ya..??

Couple of things you missed.

The US Dollar IS worthless.... (by measure of the 1938 $ when $1.00 was about $1.00) your dollar now is worth about $0.03. That's three cents. How do you figure that..?? The next time you see a car for sale on the TV, look at the price. Then see what gold is worth that day. Divide the price of the car by the worth of gold. Final answer..?? You tell me after you do the math.

Trump is being allowed to save face with all this theater about China trade war, China tariffs, etc.

In case you missed it, Brazil, Russia, India, IRAN, China, South Africa are all now trading in their own negotiated currencies. Have been for over 2 years. The $$Dollar$$ (the PetroDollar) is on shaky ground. The United States was invited into the BRIICS currency but guess who stopped it..?? Ya, you know the good ole Federal Reserve Bank - owned by.... the Rothschilds, Jacob Rohm, and other global financial criminals. The US dollar is and has been on shaky ground for about 3 years.

The Chinese, Russians, Brazilians, Indians and Iranians are all trading like they want with NO interference from the global financial criminals.

Whats happening is backstage negotiations for the US to merge with a different global currency.

Get up to speed man. Your 'better than thou' attitude has nowhere to go with me. I've been involved in and invested in the global financial markets for over 28 years.

Chinese people like Americans. We represent freedom. Chinese government doesn't like Americans. We represent freedom.

The basis for the ruckus in Hong Kong is that the Chinese were about to start extraditing anyone from Hong Kong to China for trials of crimes. The Hong Kong people were used to being a "British" subject and were not going to go peacefully to a known 'communist' country. China also uses a 'debt scale' on its citizens to determine what they get to do and were trying to affix it to Hong Kong. (Like ability to buy a car, or rent an apartment, or get a ride on a commuter train.) If your didn't pay your bills on time, China would cut you off. No train ride. No car. No apartment. Hong Kong residents went beserk over these two items. This was the basis for the protests - extradition to China for trial and the 'debt scale' system on how free you could be.

Just to get you up to speed.

Again, the Chinese people love Americans. We represent freedom. The Chinese government hates Americans. We represent freedom.

They (the Chinese government) are riding a shaky platform. They don't want to piss off the American people. We have fat wallets and buy lots of Chinese stuff.

Trump, Putin, Xi, and other world leaders are working to cut out the 'F*kng" global financial criminals. Yes, there could be a war. It will be a war over money. Not principles.

This has been happening for over 5 years behind the scenes. Its one reason the global criminal Hillary was booted out of the election. She's old school. The new age thinkers and players don't want an old school global financial criminal in their midst anymore.

Look for the arrest or death of George Soros. This will be a trigger point. Count on it.

Just to get you up to speed.

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Sep 5, 2019 22:37:32   #
trucksterbud
 
PeterS wrote:
China has the ability to make the US dollar worthless in the world yet you think it's they who Trimble before us? How naive you con's truly are...


Oh, petey, BTW, Kevvy hasn't a clue what is going on in Hong Kong. He just wanted to degrade Trump one more time.

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Sep 5, 2019 22:39:48   #
trucksterbud
 
son of witless wrote:
So why haven't they done it ? Answer, because they can't. Once again you have no clue about the things you are talking about.


In reality, Petey is about as clueless as Kevvy….

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Sep 5, 2019 22:47:38   #
Seth
 
BigMike wrote:
The dollar IS worthless.

The bill in your wallet is a dollar in debt.

It was borrowed by the government from the "Federal" Reserve, a private organization, with interest out of funds they create from NOTHING.

In '71 Nixon took us off gold and the petrodollar came into being. Nixon bad, Bush bad, Big Oil bad, right?

The petrodollar has been the justification for all our ME BS intusions...resulting in untold death and destruction there and costing trillions...

...and somehow the people behind all this misery have convinced YOU people to carry water for them.

That makes no sense to me.

Our struggle here is with elitists (who wouldn't piss on you if your guts were on fire) and the rest of us...and you defend them! How is this???

The poles have shifted! Trump (no R) and Trump supporters (not as R as they think ,most of them) have mutinied, seized the vessel (Republican Party), made a few real bastards walk the plank (retire, resign, decide not to run in 2018 and indicted two ) and the ones who didn't in 2018 had better get a move on or they'll get the cat' o' nine tails before we let them walk the plank. You'll see some guys get wise and get out. Relatively clean Rs can stay if cooperate.

Dems want war and don't give a fk about sending the kids off, apparently. What a trip for a guy who was a kid while the Beatles were singing All You Need is Love on the radio.

Trump wants to take us back to gold like it was when Kennedy and Johnson were in office and the Great Society began just a few years before. Gold good, Kennedy good, Johnson good, Great Society good, right?

We commandeered the Republicans because they were Deep State's weakest link...how did they get YOU to defend them? I think you're under a spell or hypnosis or something.
The dollar IS worthless. br br The bill in your w... (show quote)



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Sep 6, 2019 10:26:18   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
trucksterbud wrote:
Wow petey, guess you really got me pegged don't ya..??

Couple of things you missed.

The US Dollar IS worthless.... (by measure of the 1938 $ when $1.00 was about $1.00) your dollar now is worth about $0.03. That's three cents. How do you figure that..?? The next time you see a car for sale on the TV, look at the price. Then see what gold is worth that day. Divide the price of the car by the worth of gold. Final answer..?? You tell me after you do the math.

Trump is being allowed to save face with all this theater about China trade war, China tariffs, etc.

In case you missed it, Brazil, Russia, India, IRAN, China, South Africa are all now trading in their own negotiated currencies. Have been for over 2 years. The $$Dollar$$ (the PetroDollar) is on shaky ground. The United States was invited into the BRIICS currency but guess who stopped it..?? Ya, you know the good ole Federal Reserve Bank - owned by.... the Rothschilds, Jacob Rohm, and other global financial criminals. The US dollar is and has been on shaky ground for about 3 years.

The Chinese, Russians, Brazilians, Indians and Iranians are all trading like they want with NO interference from the global financial criminals.

Whats happening is backstage negotiations for the US to merge with a different global currency.

Get up to speed man. Your 'better than thou' attitude has nowhere to go with me. I've been involved in and invested in the global financial markets for over 28 years.

Chinese people like Americans. We represent freedom. Chinese government doesn't like Americans. We represent freedom.

The basis for the ruckus in Hong Kong is that the Chinese were about to start extraditing anyone from Hong Kong to China for trials of crimes. The Hong Kong people were used to being a "British" subject and were not going to go peacefully to a known 'communist' country. China also uses a 'debt scale' on its citizens to determine what they get to do and were trying to affix it to Hong Kong. (Like ability to buy a car, or rent an apartment, or get a ride on a commuter train.) If your didn't pay your bills on time, China would cut you off. No train ride. No car. No apartment. Hong Kong residents went beserk over these two items. This was the basis for the protests - extradition to China for trial and the 'debt scale' system on how free you could be.

Just to get you up to speed.

Again, the Chinese people love Americans. We represent freedom. The Chinese government hates Americans. We represent freedom.

They (the Chinese government) are riding a shaky platform. They don't want to piss off the American people. We have fat wallets and buy lots of Chinese stuff.

Trump, Putin, Xi, and other world leaders are working to cut out the 'F*kng" global financial criminals. Yes, there could be a war. It will be a war over money. Not principles.

This has been happening for over 5 years behind the scenes. Its one reason the global criminal Hillary was booted out of the election. She's old school. The new age thinkers and players don't want an old school global financial criminal in their midst anymore.

Look for the arrest or death of George Soros. This will be a trigger point. Count on it.

Just to get you up to speed.
Wow petey, guess you really got me pegged don't ya... (show quote)


Going to the gold standard is what the hag and Obama killed Kadhaffi for. He wanted an African currency system based on gold and the hag's boss, the Rothschild Cabal hired her and Obama as hitmen, basically...just like they did when they hired Bill to take out the Serbs.

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Sep 7, 2019 08:31:39   #
son of witless
 
trucksterbud wrote:
In reality, Petey is about as clueless as Kevvy….


Once again, as I always do, I have silenced the opposition. There is no secret about it. All one must do is read their crap and ask them simple questions. They post nonsense which they cannot explain or defend because their puppet masters do not fill their limited minds with details.

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