Con's need to watch out for Red Flag laws...
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
I think I'll report you, if Texas should ever pass red flag laws. I don't have to face you in court; all I have to do is make a bullshit statement to the cops, and good luck suing me when and if it proves untrue. In FL, cops, doctors and officers of the court can use red flag laws, AFTER they make their statement UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY. It's like a search warrant. You must present a judge with probable cause, and you are held liable for false statements, unlike in MD where anyone can make a bullshit anonymous statement and cops come after you with a no knock warrant.
Red flag laws violate the 4th and 5th Amendments. You are considered guilty until proven innocent at your own expense, and rarely get the speedy trial the Constitution demands.
I think I'll report you, if Texas should ever pass... (
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Red flag laws would then find everyone. It's a way to confiscate every gun in America. No one would qualify to have a gun, only the government would have guns.
Red flag laws would expand to include more than guns. People like Kevyn would be flagged as a threat. Free speech would no longer exist.
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Red flag laws would then find everyone. It's a way to confiscate every gun in America. No one would qualify to have a gun, only the government would have guns.
There's around 80 million Americans who own approximately 300 million guns, who's gonna do the confiscating?
Blade_Runner wrote:
There's around 80 million Americans who own approximately 300 million guns, who's gonna do the confiscating?
They would find a way to take our guns. National Guard, state and local police, even the military if they had to. Taking our guns is priority #1 for the kommiecrats. Then they can take away anything they want.
debeda wrote:
EVERY American needs to by leery of red flag laws. Its putting the thought police in charge. Happy days when the thoughts align with yours. Not so much when they don't. Heres a list of things red flag laws could be used for:
-You Express that you are against abortion. Some people have bombed abortion clinics. You need to be "assessed".
- You express that you're against enforcing border laws and think the manner it's done is draconian. Some people have bombed ICE facilities and shot at border agents. You need to be assessed.
-You're a teen and really dislike your teachers and/or some classmates. Some students have shot up schools. You need to be assessed.
-You express dislike for a certain political party or ideology. Politicians and churches have been shot. You need to be assessed.
- You Express a dislike for certain groups of people. Groups of people have been targeted due to bigotry. You need to be assessed.
These laws are a slippery slope. Especially in this age of social media and over use of alcohol and drugs.
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Every American should be afraid of Red Flag laws. Guns are not the problem. The debasement and corruption of our culture is. And it is the left that debased and corrupted the culture. Those who trade their liberty for a false promise of safety, not only will get neither, they will set themselves up for tyranny. Which is in fact the reason the left uses these tragedies for political gain.
peg w wrote:
A red flag law would have saved my girlfriend's life. No one has the right to kill someone.
Killing anyone is illegal. That said all “red flag” laws are un Constitutional, and no law on the books or proposed would have saved your girl friend. Who ever killed her would have done it in another manner. Same results different process.
permafrost wrote:
You got your directions mixed.. China putting tariffs on the US limits what we sell to China..
It is the trump tariffs that add cost to that harly you want..
Must be a heck of a bike if 15% tariff add $45,000 to the cost..
Send us all a picture when you get it.. Love to see it..
You obviously do not know much about bikes I see.
MR Mister wrote:
You obviously do not know much about bikes I see.
Nearly nothing to tell the truth..
How pricey are they??
permafrost wrote:
Nearly nothing to tell the truth..
How pricey are they??
A full dress Harly is around 35k and up.
MR Mister wrote:
A full dress Harly is around 35k and up.
Wow!... A guy could buy a decent car for that much money..
But my original comment about the adding 45 grand to the cost still stands..
Many years ago when I did a one time look at motorcycles, the low end was not much over $1000.
Now that was for sure not a Harley top ender but it amazes me the cost of so many items these days..
Also back in the later days, a friend I worked with at a trucking company did buy a Harley gold some thing or other. While I was admiring it, he told me that he had to promise his wife a car for the same cost as the bike to calm her down a bit.. LOL..
they are fun..I have ridden on a couple, never owned one..
Oh, the one I road was a "big" Honda.. about 500 CC power.. in the 70s..
permafrost wrote:
Wow!... A guy could buy a decent car for that much money..
But my original comment about the adding 45 grand to the cost still stands..
Many years ago when I did a one time look at motorcycles, the low end was not much over $1000.
Now that was for sure not a Harley top ender but it amazes me the cost of so many items these days..
Also back in the later days, a friend I worked with at a trucking company did buy a Harley gold some thing or other. While I was admiring it, he told me that he had to promise his wife a car for the same cost as the bike to calm her down a bit.. LOL..
they are fun..I have ridden on a couple, never owned one..
Oh, the one I road was a "big" Honda.. about 500 CC power.. in the 70s..
Wow!... A guy could buy a decent car for that much... (
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Back 45 years or so when I first got married, we bought our little 2 bedroom starter home for $13,000.
Ricktloml wrote:
Back 45 years or so when I first got married, we bought our little 2 bedroom starter home for $13,000.
Yep. I remember a good friend of mine and her husband bought a very nice 4 BR split level in 1972 for 27k. I asked her "OMG are you going to be able to afford that big mortgage payment?". The payment was 300 per month.....
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