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Aug 23, 2019 19:55:29   #
Cuda2020
 
debeda wrote:
I dunno. During the previous President Obama's administration I felt our country was on a greased slide to nowhere - AND that every day, average Americans were being marginalized in favor of special interest groups that represented a tiny portion of the population. President Trump is the president of ALL Americans, not just a chosen few.


Ha, you're delusional, he only placates to his base and supporters.

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Aug 23, 2019 20:00:18   #
Cuda2020
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
A "counter balancer" tends to reduce vibration in a spinning wheel, it allows you to increase RPM. You're on a roll.

Obviously you are one of those bots in the collective who thinks the democratic party is still an American political party. I don't care how or why you can't see it, either you can't comprehend your leaders' message or you are just ignorant of the differences between political philosophies and ideological doctrines or you are in denial.

There is absolutely no doubt that the current crop of leftist candidates along with their promoters, donors, and media propagandists have hijacked what was once the democrat party. The label "democrat" is nothing more than a stamp on a ballot, a hashtag. What was once the democrat party is now the Socialist Progressive Movement.

Progressivism is the spawn of an abstract construct built on an artificial framework conceived by European political philosophers, primarily Marx, Engels, Hegel and Rousseau. The foundation of this philosophy is cemented in the power of government and the people are its subjects--what Marx refers to as the "masses", what the Borg call the "collective". "You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile."

By what ever name you choose to give it, a statist government puts little value on individual human beings, the masses are its useful idiots, they are nothing more than a means to the end. The Socialist Progressive movement is diametrically opposed to our constitution and our American way of life.

I suggest you read Marx' Communist Manifesto then listen again to Sanders, Warren, Biden, Harris, et al, see if you are intelligent enough to finally understand the ideological forces you've hitched your wagon to.

If you manage to do that, you will likely understand "why a man who was a known Democrat decided to run on the Republican ticket."
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Believe me, I KNOW exactly why he changed parties.

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Aug 23, 2019 20:07:37   #
Cuda2020
 
America 1 wrote:
OK, Just for kicks.
Why is it you are so afraid?
Big Bad Trump after you.


In a classic Cagney movie, it closes with his last quote, "Look at me Ma, I'm on top of the World!!!"...then...
KABOOOOOM!!! The Mad Hatter... our Commander in Chief, you should be afraid too.

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Aug 23, 2019 20:11:33   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Believe me, I KNOW exactly why he changed parties.

Naw, you don't have a clue. Hell, you don't even know what party you belong to or what country you live in. You're just a nasty little fish lost in a swamp.

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Aug 23, 2019 20:23:43   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Ha, you're delusional, he only placates to his base and supporters.


Well. what's more important who's pissing in what bathroom or the well being of our country?

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Aug 23, 2019 20:25:23   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
In a classic Cagney movie, it closes with his last quote, "Look at me Ma, I'm on top of the World!!!"...then...
KABOOOOOM!!! The Mad Hatter... our Commander in Chief, you should be afraid too.


Those movies tell it all.
Enjoy the fantasy.

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Aug 23, 2019 21:57:21   #
debeda
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Yes, there are conflicting narratives about him. The rich pretty much hated him. Not only did he give us Social Security, employed millions of out-of-work Americans (WPA, CCC, etc.), started unemployment insurance, etc., to top it off he made the rich pay for it (he proposed 100% tax on income over $25,000 (today $400,000(?))).
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_taxation_in_the_United_States#Development_of_the_modern_income_tax

Maybe worst of all, being rich and from a rich family, he was a class traitor.
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Huh. I'll have to read up a little on him, it's been awhile.

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Aug 23, 2019 23:02:17   #
Mikeyavelli
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Catch much with your trolling?


Got you.

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Aug 23, 2019 23:06:51   #
Mikeyavelli
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Yes, there are conflicting narratives about him. The rich pretty much hated him. Not only did he give us Social Security, employed millions of out-of-work Americans (WPA, CCC, etc.), started unemployment insurance, etc., to top it off he made the rich pay for it (he proposed 100% tax on income over $25,000 (today $400,000(?))).
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_taxation_in_the_United_States#Development_of_the_modern_income_tax

Maybe worst of all, being rich and from a rich family, he was a class traitor.
Yes, there are conflicting narratives about him. T... (show quote)


FDR was the First Kommiecrat. They got worse from there. And so far, Obama scores as the biggest punch to America's gut. Hillary would have been the knockout punch.

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Aug 24, 2019 00:46:05   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
FDR was the First Kommiecrat. They got worse from there. And so far, Obama scores as the biggest punch to America's gut. Hillary would have been the knockout punch.

FDR was also an anti-Semite, he refused to allow Jews escaping the Holocaust to come ashore in NY. And, he ordered the incarceration of 130,000 Japanese-Americans (Nisei) in concentration camps.

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Aug 24, 2019 08:19:15   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
He wasn't/isn't innocent at all, he's as innocent as OJ. Your comments make you look obstinately indoctrinated into the trenches of Trump occultism. Like he says he can murder in Time Square...you know the rest I'm sure.


Guilty of what? Lol! Not wanting to be dragged under by a corrupt investigation into something he didn't do? Yeah, that's gonna fly.

The only cult I see is the Trump Hate Cult. If Trump had said walk naked in Time Square I guess you'd claim he's guilty of indecent exposure, even though he didn't actually do that.

Lololol!!!!!!!!

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Aug 24, 2019 18:19:27   #
GmanTerry
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Who owned and controlled the "electric utility"?


The Utilities, I worked for two, were Arizona Public Service and the United States Department of Energy. APS is an investor owned utility and the DOE is owned by you, the taxpayers.

Semper Fi

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Aug 25, 2019 12:53:41   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
FDR was also an anti-Semite, he refused to allow Jews escaping the Holocaust to come ashore in NY. And, he ordered the incarceration of 130,000 Japanese-Americans (Nisei) in concentration camps.

From:
https://www.npr.org/2013/03/18/174125891/fdr-and-the-jews-puts-roosevelts-compromises-in-context

In summing up FDR's record, Breitman and Lichtman write that "his compromises might seem flawed in the light of what later generations have learned about the depth and significance of the Holocaust." But, they add, "Roosevelt reacted more decisively to Nazi crimes against Jews than did any other world leader of his time."

"In some ways, that's a statement about Roosevelt's world and the inadequacies of other world leaders at the time," Breitman tells NPR's Robert Siegel. "But that comparison tells us something: that the world of the 1930s and the 1940s was a very different place, and that Roosevelt had both political constraints and international constraints that we don't often think about today."

In this way, Breitman says, FDR's track record was markedly different from that of British Prime Minister Winston Churchill.

"I think Churchill has the reputation of being philo-Semitic [or appreciative of Jews and Jewish culture] but didn't often back it up with actions. And Roosevelt has the reputation for being unsympathetic but in fact did a number of things behind the scenes which show at least some concern," Breitman observes.

FDR's father raised him to not be anti-Semitic at a time when anti-Semitism was common to their class. During his presidency, however, Roosevelt feared that expressions of his concern for the Jews of Europe would inflame anti-Semitism in the U.S. According to Lichtman, that fear affected how FDR and other leaders of the era dealt with the Jewish question.

"The 1930s and '40s were a time in America when there was a considerable amount of anti-Jewish, anti-black and even anti-Catholic sentiment and people were worried about upsetting the social order in America," Lichtman says. "But, let me say, this is the poison of anti-Semitism; that the fear of anti-Semitism is often greater than the reality of anti-Semitism. And it was more fear that tended to paralyze key players in the '30s and '40s than necessarily the reality of anti-Semitism."

But it wasn't just FDR who was afraid. American Jews were also nervous about rocking the boat and bringing a wave of anti-Semitism upon themselves. According to Breitman, "The American Jewish community was divided both over how much they could accomplish politically and how they should go about it."

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Aug 25, 2019 13:51:57   #
acknowledgeurma
 
GmanTerry wrote:
The government owning everything and giving everyone a portion of the money it makes is socialism. The biggest problem this creates is the loss of incentive to do anything more than the minimum required. I have worked as an Engineer at an electric utility. The union guys have no incentive to work because every electrician makes the same salary. There are union guys who do put forth extra effort but they are bullied by the rank and file. Socialism removes 100% of the drive to do more and requires everyone to do the minimum. That is not a healthy society.
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GmanTerry wrote:
The Utilities, I worked for two, were Arizona Public Service and the United States Department of Energy. APS is an investor owned utility and the DOE is owned by you, the taxpayers.

Semper Fi

Suppose the workers "owned" APS. Suppose APS income was distributed by the workers.

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Aug 25, 2019 13:55:01   #
debeda
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Suppose the workers "owned" APS. Suppose APS income was distributed by the workers.


Chaos.....havent you ever run a business or been in any position of authority? Mostly, the workers want to make the best deal PERSONALLY, and have little to no understanding of the big picture or how to keep things running. Which is why full on socialism grinds productivity and commerce to a halt EVERY TIME

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