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Aug 17, 2019 11:59:22   #
debeda
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Of course you can....................if you have a little help.



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Aug 17, 2019 12:30:22   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
jimpack123 wrote:
no as Trump probally ordered it lol


This post takes 1st place as the most ignorant on the thread~

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Aug 17, 2019 12:35:46   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Jakebrake wrote:
This post takes 1st place as the most ignorant on the thread~


NO ALL THE ONES POINTING A FINGER TO CLINTON THE AG BARR REALLY DROPPED THE BALL HERE AND HIS BOSS

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Aug 17, 2019 12:39:20   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
jimpack123 wrote:
NO ALL THE ONES POINTING A FINGER TO CLINTON THE AG BARR REALLY DROPPED THE BALL HERE AND HIS BOSS


Oh come on packy, do you really believe that bullshit?

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Aug 17, 2019 12:43:13   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Oh come on packy, do you really believe that bullshit?


Yes Barr is the AG he should have made sure that nothing happened to him unless Trump told him to make him disappear

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Aug 17, 2019 13:03:31   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
cbpat1 wrote:
I agree with you PR. The moon and the stars had to line up too perfectly for this not to be suspicious. First they blame it on the guards working overtime. Too bad. I’ve worked overtime many times in my life, it didn’t stop me from doing my job. Then they blamed it on a new guy. Didn’t they train him? And why would they put a new guy on the highest profile prisoner in the country? Where is the video? Why were several bones broken?

The biggest question of all in my mind is why do Bill Clinton’s friends that have connections to bad things keep dying suspiciously? There is a long trail of dead people that had connections to the Clintons that had possible dirt on them. Makes me wonder, what about you?
I agree with you PR. The moon and the stars had to... (show quote)




This death should come as no surprise. I hope this does not fall into the famous "Never solved conspiracy file." It is becoming evident that in rich and famous circles life has no value. Once one enters this lifestyle, it becomes an enter at your own risk situation.

Anyone with any sense at all knows this man did not kill himself without some kind of assistance either physically or mentally. There is a price to pay for living an out of control anything-goes lifestyle. The laws of nature and natures God always polices itself. Somewhere I read "what you sow is what you reap."

Someone, some person or persons are responsible for his death. The Clintons are a major target due to the many questions that surround their dealings in many areas of government and personal activities. If this is true hopefully they will not be "Above the Law."

No matter who is involved in this mans death, even if perchance it was at his own hands, this is an important event that needs a full and honest investigation and honest report to We the people.

The simple fact that the former president of the United States name being found on the list of people in close friendship with Epstein is an indication of the level or mindset of those who may run in his circle. This in turn, just maybe an indication of the character of those who are elected to represent the hopes and wishes of the people that voted for them.

There can be no doubt that something is deeply wrong with the leadership in government and those in high places. By this, it doesn't mean that ALL rich and powerful people are corrupt. Thank God, there are some rich and powerful people who do have the best interest of the people and nation honestly at heart. Our job as the root of power, " The Ballot Box. " is to become more interested and informed as to who stands for what when we vote. Corruption runs silent and deep among people in power. They have a fellowship that goes well beyond party lines. In fact, they have no party lines. Their goal in life is self, greed, power, pleasure, and legacy.

The time for the thinking that says, what they do in their private lives doesn't matter. Well, it does matter because men/women of bad character eventually are dominated in all areas of life by that bad inner motivation. Somewhere I read, as a man thinketh so he/she is.

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Aug 17, 2019 13:05:41   #
cbpat1
 
jimpack123 wrote:
Yes Barr is the AG he should have made sure that nothing happened to him unless Trump told him to make him disappear



Your full of crap. The blame goes to the warden, he was in charge, not Barr. Wow, you Trump haters will go to no end to blame Trump and his people.

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Aug 17, 2019 13:45:13   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
cbpat1 wrote:
Your full of crap. The blame goes to the warden, he was in charge, not Barr. Wow, you Trump haters will go to no end to blame Trump and his people.


Exactly packy boi and the rest of his lefty loons will assign blame to Trump and his AG Barr simply to politicize a murder to further their TDS anti Trump agenda. The blame lays squarely on the Warden and his correction officers.

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Aug 17, 2019 13:57:29   #
debeda
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Exactly packy boi and the rest of his lefty loons will assign blame to Trump and his AG Barr simply to politicize a murder to further their TDS anti Trump agenda. The blame lays squarely on the Warden and his correction officers.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epsteins-lawyers-to-conduct-their-own-probe-into-circumstances-and-cause-of-his-death?source=email&via=mobile

Hmmm

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Aug 17, 2019 14:53:33   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Exactly packy boi and the rest of his lefty loons will assign blame to Trump and his AG Barr simply to politicize a murder to further their TDS anti Trump agenda. The blame lays squarely on the Warden and his correction officers.


whom Barr is there boss. correct or am I missing something , but mostly I am picking on the OPP people who believe that it was a murder. When it is a suicide

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Aug 17, 2019 15:18:25   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
proud republican wrote:
Medical examiner report!!!Epstein committed suicide by tying sheet around his neck and around bed post and kneeling to his death....I call it BS!!!....impossible to kneel and brake your hyoid bone




I agree with you 100%. Sheets made to be hang proof, no drop to break the neck bones, no guards for 3 hours, no video, , even his bodyguard is afraid to talk about it. He was killed to protect the upper echelon that has dipped into the illegal sex life that Epstein provided. Must be some very powerful people, huh?
If the guards are to be investigated, i bet they will also "commit suicide".

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Aug 17, 2019 17:32:02   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Big dog wrote:
Okay, so if it Was suicide, do the guards go to prison for criminal negligence ?
Maybe. As I understand it, the guards responsible are on administrative leave.

Information about conditions in federal prisons has been posted on several threads. The entire federal prison system is critically understaffed and living conditions are horrible--MCC Manhattan is no exception. The Bureau of Prisons is failing to recruit qualified people to replace COs that retire, resign, or quit.

COs are currently working many overtime hours to take up the slack. MCC Manhattan guards admitted to working as many as five overtime shifts in a row, logging as much as 80 hours a week.

In many cases, a prison admin will assign secretaries, maintenance personnel, and even cooks to take CO duties in prisoner surveillance--such as monitoring the CCTVs. COs are supposed to physically check on prisoners every 30 or 60 minutes, then they must sign a log indicating they did so. Often this log is fudged, a CO will simply sign the log without making the rounds, this is common particularly at night.

Dr. Barbara Sampson, NY ME, performed the autopsy on Epstein's body. Dr. Sampson has a rather impressive resume as a forensics pathologist. The famous pathologist Dr. Michael Baden observed Epstein’s autopsy on his lawyers’ behalf. Dr. Sampson ruled his death was suicide.

OK, now, suppose the ME had determined Epstein was murdered. The hunt is on. Looking for the perps in all the high places. And, who would carry the ball? Who would point the fingers? And, at whom?

We know beyond doubt that the progressive socialist movement runs the MSM, or the MSM runs the progressive socialist movement--an intimate symbiotic relationship exists with a hell of a lot of power to influence the masses--and at present this entity has one goal in mind--DESTROY PRESIDENT TRUMP.

Would this progressive monster implicate Bill Clinton in Epstein's death? Nope. Hillary? Nope.

Would it implicate anyone directly involved in Epstein's global sex trafficking operation? Nope. Wait a minute! Hold it. Checking-----Yep, there he is, big as life, Donald Trump.

"After New York financier Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for sex trafficking of minors, many big names have cropped up in the scandal but none bigger than that of Donald Trump, the President of the United States."

"Donald Trump and Jeffery Epstein tie up and brutally rape 13 year old girl at a party in Epstein's Manhattan residence."

"Donald Trump seems to have illegally brought girls as young as 14 to the U.S. to work uncompensated."

"22 women accuse Donald Trump of sexual abuse.

"Donald Trump had an affair with a porn star, Donald Trump's wife, Melania, is a porn star, Donald Trump was sweet on his young daughter Ivanka, Donald Trump is an adulterer, a rapist, and a pedophile. He's a Nazi, a fascist, a homophobe, xenophobe, racist, anti-Semite, an abuser, an accuser, and a midnight loser."

"And the beat goes on."


If Epstein's death had been ruled a murder, who would get the blame?

BTW: Anyone who believes that death by hanging (strangulation) only succeeds with a full weight vertical drop from a gallows pole is watching too many movies.

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Aug 17, 2019 17:54:16   #
Kazudy
 
proud republican wrote:
Medical examiner report!!!Epstein committed suicide by tying sheet around his neck and around bed post and kneeling to his death....I call it BS!!!....impossible to kneel and brake your hyoid bone


A lot of people are being paid of here.

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Aug 18, 2019 07:49:42   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Auntie Dee wrote:
Did we honestly expect them to say anything different?? Let's hope an investigation turns up something more honest, but in NYC, seems most everything is corrupt!

👍👍👍👍

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Aug 19, 2019 04:11:36   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
jimpack123 wrote:
whom Barr is there boss. correct or am I missing something , but mostly I am picking on the OPP people who believe that it was a murder. When it is a suicide


It's almost like beating yourself to death with a feather duster. But it's no more strange than a pregnant woman committing suicide by shooting herself in the BACK of her head. Get a toy pistol and hold it so as to shoot yourself in the back of the head. It is completely awkward, especially when a shot to the temple is SOOO much easier. I really don't think that Barr is "boss" over some poorly performing prison guards.
It was murder.

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