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Aug 6, 2019 18:26:28   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
flash wrote:
Then figure this. What's 90% of 1000 and what's 40% of 100.


If you are talking to me, its 900 and 40, respectively. In my example which is more akin to the numbers of whites on the dole compared to the number of blacks on the dole; I think it was 10% of a thousand and 60% of a hundred, which is 100 and 60, respectively.

The population of whites is much greater than the population of blacks, so there can be a higher number of whites on the dole than blacks while the percentage of blacks on the dole is greater than the percentage of whites on the dole.

If you weren't talking to me, then ignore this.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:28:55   #
acknowledgeurma
 
dtucker300 wrote:
LOL. If Corporations could only vote as we do, what a mess we would have on our hands. After all, the SCOTUS said they were people. That's a sticky wicket. I was thinking more like Cell phones and health care, welfare, and such that that is given to the individual citizens.

You sound like you come from a place where the government thinks and acts as though it owns everything and the rest of us are here to serve the government (That vaguely sounds like the utopian dream the progressives and socialist have for America). The government gives away what isn't theirs to give. It's called redistribution. There is no such thing as free stuff. Tax credits are incentives to change our behavior just as taxes are. To begin with, it is already our or their money. Why shouldn't someone be entitled to keep the fruit of their labor rather than share it with those unwilling to earn for themselves? I have no problem sharing with the people who can't help or do for themselves through no fault of their own. And naturally, we need a government to carry out certain functions. But we don't need a bloated bureaucracy and a bigger than necessary government that thinks all wealth flows through and from it.
LOL. If Corporations could only vote as we do, wh... (show quote)

I come from a place where (supposedly) "government [is] of the people, by the people, for the people". So every time you say "government" I think "the people".

Of course there is "free stuff". I've gotten free stuff all my life. What do you think gifts are?

Are you seriously trying to argue that their should be no taxes?

As I am currently relying on the returns of capital, I'm reaping the fruit of other peoples labor. Am I entitled to this fruit? By the laws of the land, I am; just as the titled lords were entitled to the fruits of their land.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:36:43   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
It's called price gouging. It shouldn't occur in healthcare. Just my opinion. It is certainly not allowed in banking. What is surprising to me is that the insurance companies were paying it, especially in light of how the gamed the system through her father, the congressman.



I think price gouging is a good description.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:38:23   #
acknowledgeurma
 
dtucker300 wrote:
No one needs to get out of this country except the un-invited. Name-calling doesn't change anyone's mind.

In the 1960s there was a slogan, "America: Love it or Leave it!" and that was countered with "America: Change it or Lose it!" Both examples of the tribalism mentality that has taken over the political party apparatus. This is why people are leaving both parties to become independent and they feel the parties no longer represent us. But the Democrats take it a step further to have more members than the Republicans by catering to Illegal Immigrants and giving free stuff away, with no slow down in sight. We need to teach more American History, with all the good and the bad, especially the Founding and the Constitution in our schools because our republic cannot survive if people are not educated in how it works.
No one needs to get out of this country except the... (show quote)

So no foreign tourists without a personal invitation?

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Aug 6, 2019 18:43:41   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Where is the fraud? They own (until the patent expires (if ever)) the delivery system. Are you suggesting that their should be some regulation of the price they're allowed to charge for the use of their property. What are you, a commie?


The fraud is in the fact that they get a law passed so that everyone needing this product is stuck, only able to buy or use their product. They created a monopoly and then charge what they want. That is why it requires regulation. That is why we have antitrust laws. The Tech world of the internet is getting the same way, not so much in what they charge us too much but in the way they use our information. It is time to break up the Googles, Facebooks, etc.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:44:23   #
D. Plorable
 
Kevyn wrote:
This issue went to the presses before the white national terrorist attack in El Paso, the timing couldn’t be more fitting. We need to have this racist criminal driven out of office and prosecuted as soon as possible.


Ain’t gonna happen HALF BAKED SNOWFLAKE

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Aug 6, 2019 18:49:26   #
acknowledgeurma
 
flash wrote:
Government give a ways help prevent working and thinking for yourselves.

[Irony Alert] Yes those tax credits sure do prevent me from working and thinking for myself.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:51:45   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
I come from a place where (supposedly) "government [is] of the people, by the people, for the people". So every time you say "government" I think "the people".

Of course there is "free stuff". I've gotten free stuff all my life. What do you think gifts are?

Are you seriously trying to argue that their should be no taxes?

As I am currently relying on the returns of capital, I'm reaping the fruit of other peoples labor. Am I entitled to this fruit? By the laws of the land, I am; just as the titled lords were entitled to the fruits of their land.
I come from a place where (supposedly) "gover... (show quote)


Yes, We the People. I was posing a rhetorical device saying it sounds like you come from such and such.
You confirmed that when you said "Supposedly." But there are too many these days who think the people are here to serve the government or they are trying to make it that way.

Your capital is your investment of what you earned so you are entitled. You are reaping the fruit of others labor by investing in their labor. You're not ripping them off. Both parties entered freely into a mutual agreement.

I'm not ay all arguing for no taxes. That would be impossible. Yes, of course, there is free stuff. But it still isn't free. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Don't be ridiculous!

What got you feathers ruffled?

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Aug 6, 2019 18:56:36   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
The government is not a charity or a hospital. In America, the constitution enumerates the duties of the federal government, and there aren't many.

The Commerce clause in Article I, Section 8, covers quite a bit.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:56:38   #
Mikeyavelli
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Yes, We the People. But there are too many these days who think the people are here to serve the government. Your capital is your investment of what you earned so you are entitled. You are reaping the fruit of others labor by investing in their labor. You're not ripping them off. Both parties entered freely into a mutual agreement. I'm not arguing for no taxes. That would be impossible. Yes, of course, there is free stuff. But it still isn't free. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Don't be ridiculous! What got you feathers ruffled?
Yes, We the People. But there are too many these ... (show quote)


Acknowledgegerms has the soul of a serf.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:58:17   #
Mikeyavelli
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
The Commerce clause in Article I, Section 8, covers quite a bit.


Where does it enumerate charity and healthcare from the federal government?

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Aug 6, 2019 19:00:38   #
flash
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Where does it enumerate charity and healthcare from the federal government?


The democrap party.

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Aug 6, 2019 19:01:40   #
acknowledgeurma
 
dtucker300 wrote:
The fraud is in the fact that they get a law passed so that everyone needing this product is stuck, only able to buy or use their product. They created a monopoly and then charge what they want. That is why it requires regulation. That is why we have antitrust laws. The Tech world of the internet is getting the same way, not so much in what they charge us too much but in the way they use our information. It is time to break up the Googles, Facebooks, etc.

What are you some kind of socialist who wants the government to regulate prices?

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Aug 6, 2019 19:09:31   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Acknowledgegerms has the soul of a serf.

Yes my soul rides on the waves of the ocean of life, a true soul of the surf.

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Aug 6, 2019 19:11:58   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
The Commerce clause in Article I, Section 8, covers quite a bit.


Yes, it covers quite a bit.
Taxation
Spending Clause
Uniformity Clause
Borrowing Clause
Commerce with Foreign Nations
Commerce Among the States
Commerce with Indian Tribes
Naturalization
Bankruptcy Clause
Coinage Clause
Weights and Measures
Counterfeiting
Post Office
Patent and Copyright Clause
Inferior Courts
Piracy and Felonies
Offenses Against the law of Nations Clause
Declare War
Marque and Reprisal
Captures Clause
Army Clause
Navy Clause
Military Regulations
Militia Clause
Organizing the Militia
Enclave Clause
Military Installations


You'll have to be more specific, please. Do you mean Clause 3?

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