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Aug 6, 2019 17:16:20   #
acknowledgeurma
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Your point is well taken.
We always have to guard against fraud and BS.

Where is the fraud? They own (until the patent expires (if ever)) the delivery system. Are you suggesting that their should be some regulation of the price they're allowed to charge for the use of their property. What are you, a c****e?

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Aug 6, 2019 17:21:38   #
acknowledgeurma
 
dtucker300 wrote:
No one needs to get out of this country except the un-invited. Name-calling doesn't change anyone's mind.

In the 1960s there was a slogan, "America: Love it or Leave it!" and that was countered with "America: Change it or Lose it!" Both examples of the tribalism mentality that has taken over the political party apparatus. This is why people are leaving both parties to become independent and they feel the parties no longer represent us. But the Democrats take it a step further to have more members than the Republicans by catering to I*****l I*******ts and giving free stuff away, with no slow down in sight. We need to teach more American History, with all the good and the bad, especially the Founding and the Constitution in our schools because our republic cannot survive if people are not educated in how it works.
No one needs to get out of this country except the... (show quote)

"giving free stuff away" like tax credits to corporations?

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Aug 6, 2019 17:27:17   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Tonight, the role of Humpty Dumpty will be played by the Independents of America.

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall (couldn't decide who to v**e for)
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall (The kommiecrats won because Humpty couldn't decide and didn't v**e)
All the King's horses and all the King's men (the true Patriots of America)
Couldn't put Humpty together again ( the kommiecrats ruined America because of the fence sitters who couldn't decide)


Independents v**e in more e******ns than Democratic faithful. Democrats just v**e early and often, even the dead ones.

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Aug 6, 2019 17:45:34   #
flash
 
The PATRIOTS would regroup and come back kicking the kommies ass.
Hmmm. Sort of like Superbowl 51.

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Aug 6, 2019 17:46:41   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
"giving free stuff away" like tax credits to corporations?


LOL. If Corporations could only v**e as we do, what a mess we would have on our hands. After all, the SCOTUS said they were people. That's a sticky wicket. I was thinking more like Cell phones and health care, welfare, and such that that is given to the individual citizens.

You sound like you come from a place where the government thinks and acts as though it owns everything and the rest of us are here to serve the government (That vaguely sounds like the utopian dream the progressives and socialist have for America). The government gives away what isn't theirs to give. It's called redistribution. There is no such thing as free stuff. Tax credits are incentives to change our behavior just as taxes are. To begin with, it is already our or their money. Why shouldn't someone be entitled to keep the fruit of their labor rather than share it with those unwilling to earn for themselves? I have no problem sharing with the people who can't help or do for themselves through no fault of their own. And naturally, we need a government to carry out certain functions. But we don't need a bloated bureaucracy and a bigger than necessary government that thinks all wealth flows through and from it.

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Aug 6, 2019 17:51:54   #
acknowledgeurma
 
flash wrote:
Do you care to do the comparison by percentage.

I'm not sure what that would prove other than that the percentage of people of color who live in poverty in America is higher than that of "w****s". I don't doubt that. Receiving public assistance is probably a very good indicator of poverty. Do you really think that doing away with public assistance will end poverty? But then, you don't want to do away with poverty; you just want to make sure the poor cannot rely on government for help (regardless of ethnicity).

How about a comparison of generational wealth and income?

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Aug 6, 2019 17:58:27   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
I'm not sure what that would prove other than that the percentage of people of color who live in poverty in America is higher than that of "w****s". I don't doubt that. Receiving public assistance is probably a very good indicator of poverty. Do you really think that doing away with public assistance will end poverty? But then, you don't want to do away with poverty; you just want to make sure the poor cannot rely on government for help (regardless of ethnicity).

How about a comparison of generational wealth and income?
I'm not sure what that would prove other than that... (show quote)


How did you make a leap to that conclusion about not wanting to do away with poverty? There are different kinds of poverty and different reasons for poverty. One size does not fit all. We have been helping the impoverished since the Great Society, yet the numbers remain about the same. There will always be poor among us.

Yes, how about Generational wealth and Income? It is very difficult to accumulate any wealth if you are not earning money and fail to save or invest. A distinct disadvantage. But opportunity is there and that is why we attract so many immigrants. However, the income brackets are not static, People move up and down them throughout their lives.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:00:27   #
flash
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
I'm not sure what that would prove other than that the percentage of people of color who live in poverty in America is higher than that of "w****s". I don't doubt that. Receiving public assistance is probably a very good indicator of poverty. Do you really think that doing away with public assistance will end poverty? But then, you don't want to do away with poverty; you just want to make sure the poor cannot rely on government for help (regardless of ethnicity).

How about a comparison of generational wealth and income?
I'm not sure what that would prove other than that... (show quote)


Government give a ways help prevent working and thinking for yourselves.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:03:10   #
Mikeyavelli
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Independents v**e in more e******ns than Democratic faithful. Democrats just v**e early and often, even the dead ones.


Yep, all my relatives were Republican until they died. Now they v**e kommiecrat.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:04:52   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Yep, all my relatives were Republican until they died. Now they v**e kommiecrat.


LOL Yes, but how many times in each e******n?

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Aug 6, 2019 18:18:56   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
flash wrote:
You must be an Einstein.


I am.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:21:03   #
flash
 
Then figure this. What's 90% of 1000 and what's 40% of 100.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:22:36   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Where is the fraud? They own (until the patent expires (if ever)) the delivery system. Are you suggesting that their should be some regulation of the price they're allowed to charge for the use of their property. What are you, a c****e?


It's called price gouging. It shouldn't occur in healthcare. Just my opinion. It is certainly not allowed in banking. What is surprising to me is that the insurance companies were paying it, especially in light of how the gamed the system through her father, the congressman.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:23:00   #
Mikeyavelli
 
dtucker300 wrote:
LOL. If Corporations could only v**e as we do, what a mess we would have on our hands. After all, the SCOTUS said they were people. That's a sticky wicket. I was thinking more like Cell phones and health care, welfare, and such that that is given to the individual citizens.

You sound like you come from a place where the government thinks and acts as though it owns everything and the rest of us are here to serve the government (That vaguely sounds like the utopian dream the progressives and socialist have for America). The government gives away what isn't theirs to give. It's called redistribution. There is no such thing as free stuff. Tax credits are incentives to change our behavior just as taxes are. To begin with, it is already our or their money. Why shouldn't someone be entitled to keep the fruit of their labor rather than share it with those unwilling to earn for themselves? I have no problem sharing with the people who can't help or do for themselves through no fault of their own. And naturally, we need a government to carry out certain functions. But we don't need a bloated bureaucracy and a bigger than necessary government that thinks all wealth flows through and from it.
LOL. If Corporations could only v**e as we do, wh... (show quote)

The government is not a charity or a hospital. In America, the constitution enumerates the duties of the federal government, and there aren't many.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:25:14   #
Mikeyavelli
 
dtucker300 wrote:
LOL Yes, but how many times in each e******n?


They are among the most active dead people in America.
Tirelessly k*****g themselves to v**e early, often, and kommiecrat.

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