After every mass shooting, the same handwringing, lamenting, and finger pointing begin.
I personally don't think that future mass shootings can be prevented, any more than minor crime can be stopped.
But there are some deep thinking and well intentioned members who may have other ideas.
But please, be realistic, and keep in mind the freedoms and liberties everyone in this country has UNTIL they commit a crime.
factnotfiction wrote:
After every mass shooting, the sames handwringing, lamenting, and finger pointing begin.
I personally don't think that future mass shootings can be prevented, any more than minor crime can be stopped.
But there are some deep thinking and well intentioned members who may have other ideas.
But please, be realistic, and keep in mind the freedoms and liberties everyone in this country has UNTIL they commit a crime.
No way to prevent them all. Gun control laws only work on those who are willing to obey the law. Those who are not will find a way to obtain the weapons they desire. All it takes is enough money.
factnotfiction wrote:
After every mass shooting, the sames handwringing, lamenting, and finger pointing begin.
I personally don't think that future mass shootings can be prevented, any more than minor crime can be stopped.
But there are some deep thinking and well intentioned members who may have other ideas.
But please, be realistic, and keep in mind the freedoms and liberties everyone in this country has UNTIL they commit a crime.
Heres the thing. Everyone heard about London. Theres no guns. So terrorists used knives, cars and trucks. Bad people do bad things. People who were fed drugs as developing children do bad things (ADHD DRUGS, ETC) Personally I want to be able to defend myself if bad people are doing bad things. We have had tightened gun control laws for decades. Things continue to get worse. Because criminals, bad people and lunatics dont follow laws. Good people do. And are left defenseless. I dont know what the answer is, but its sure become glaringly obvious it's not gun laws. Maybe consequences might work. We have become a country of judicial disaster, where if you have a good enough excuse you can get away with anything.
Lot of people point to Australia as an example. Found this interesting
https://theconversation.com/usdebeda wrote:
Heres the thing. Everyone heard about London. Theres no guns. So terrorists used knives, cars and trucks. Bad people do bad things. People who were fed drugs as developing children do bad things (ADHD DRUGS, ETC) Personally I want to be able to defend myself if bad people are doing bad things. We have had tightened gun control laws for decades. Things continue to get worse. Because criminals, bad people and lunatics dont follow laws. Good people do. And are left defenseless. I dont know what the answer is, but its sure become glaringly obvious it's not gun laws. Maybe consequences might work. We have become a country of judicial disaster, where if you have a good enough excuse you can get away with anything.
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I didn't see anything about Australia in that link, sorry...
factnotfiction wrote:
After every mass shooting, the same handwringing, lamenting, and finger pointing begin.
I personally don't think that future mass shootings can be prevented, any more than minor crime can be stopped.
But there are some deep thinking and well intentioned members who may have other ideas.
But please, be realistic, and keep in mind the freedoms and liberties everyone in this country has UNTIL they commit a crime.
The issue is mass killing! When you label the issue as a gun issue, you take the wrong path,
and it will not lead you to the destination that you seek.
There are trucks, rocks thrown from overpasses, pipe bombs, pressure cooker bombs,
car bombs, and a thousand other forms of IED's that can, and do, produce mass killings.
The simple fact is that we have a few hundred very disturbed and dangerous psychopathic individuals
in this great nation of over 300 million individuals.
The problem is that we have to find a way to identify, and incarcerate, these individuals;
BEFORE they kill us.
factnotfiction wrote:
After every mass shooting, the same handwringing, lamenting, and finger pointing begin.
I personally don't think that future mass shootings can be prevented, any more than minor crime can be stopped.
But there are some deep thinking and well intentioned members who may have other ideas.
But please, be realistic, and keep in mind the freedoms and liberties everyone in this country has UNTIL they commit a crime.
Eliminate all semiautomatic weapons. It won't end mass shooting but they will be so few it will seem like it...
debeda wrote:
Heres the thing. Everyone heard about London. Theres no guns. So terrorists used knives, cars and trucks. Bad people do bad things. People who were fed drugs as developing children do bad things (ADHD DRUGS, ETC) Personally I want to be able to defend myself if bad people are doing bad things. We have had tightened gun control laws for decades. Things continue to get worse. Because criminals, bad people and lunatics dont follow laws. Good people do. And are left defenseless. I dont know what the answer is, but its sure become glaringly obvious it's not gun laws. Maybe consequences might work. We have become a country of judicial disaster, where if you have a good enough excuse you can get away with anything.
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We have mass shooting in the hundreds every year--so many that only the worst one make the news. Yes, bad people do bad things but it's ridiculous to hand them the instruments in which to make those bad things worse.
PeterS wrote:
Eliminate all semiautomatic weapons. It won't end mass shooting but they will be so few it will seem like it...
While you're at it, why don't you "Eliminate" illegal drugs too?
So you conservatives are up for being regulated? LOL, that's a good one!!
Yes. Get rid of gun control legislation in the urban areas. Criminals think twice if they know someone is "packing."
Gatsby wrote:
While you're at it, why don't you "Eliminate" illegal drugs too?
So you are equating guns to addictive drugs? Interesting comparison and you do act like people who are addicted.
How's this for a solution, a ten thousand dollar fine per semi-automatic weapon you are caught with. Catch you again and the fine will be twenty thousand dollars and three years in prison.
This won't eliminate semi-auto's but it will make them so cost-prohibitive and dangerous to keep that their sale will be but a trickle.
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