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Jul 15, 2019 10:11:06   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Zemirah wrote:
In reading this story, it is disappointing that more of these U.S. companies are not, at the present, anyway, considering a return to manufacturing in the United States, despite the recent substantial drop in the U.S. Corporate tax rate.

Unwilling to compromise the drastic savings in worker's salaries they found in China, they are relocating to India, to Vietnam and to Taiwan and Malaysia, resulting in no benefit to U.S. workers.


Manufacturers Move Supply Chains Out of China

BY DJ Business News| Asia-Pacific , China | 5:44 AM ET 07/14/2019

U.S. manufacturers are shifting production to countries outside of China as trade tensions between the world's two biggest economies stretch into a second year.

Companies that make Crocs shoes, Yeti beer coolers, Roomba vacuums and GoPro cameras are producing goods in other countries to avoid U.S. tariffs of up to 25% on some $250 billion worth of imports from China. Apple Inc. also is considering shifting final assembly of some of its devices out of China to avoid U.S. tariffs.

Furniture-maker Lovesac Co. is making about 60% of its furniture in China, down from 75% at the start of the year. "We have been shifting production to Vietnam very aggressively," said Shawn Nelson, chief executive of the Stamford, Conn., company. Mr. Nelson said he plans to have no production in China by the end of next year.

The moves by U.S. companies add up to a reordering of global manufacturing supply chains as they prepare for an extended period of uneven trade relations. Executives at companies that are moving operations outside China said they expect to keep them that way because of the time and money invested in setting up new facilities and shifting shipping arrangements. Companies said the shifts accelerated after the tariff on many Chinese imports rose to 25% from 10% in May.

"Once you move, you don't go back," Mr. Nelson said.

Yeti Holdings Inc. said it plans to move most production of soft-sided coolers out of China by the end of this year. iRobot Corp. said it would start producing Roombas in Malaysia this year, too. Crocs Inc. said it expects less than 10% of U.S.-bound products to be made in China by next year, down from 30% in June. And diesel-engine maker Cummins Inc. said it has avoided $50 million in tariff expenses by moving some production to the U.K. and other countries.

Imports from China fell 12% in the year through May compared with a year earlier, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, the biggest decline since the financial crisis a decade ago.

The biggest beneficiaries of that decline have been other countries in Asia where production costs are low, such as Vietnam, India, Taiwan and Malaysia. Many of those countries have seen sharp increases in exports, although there have been allegations that some of that added traffic was due to goods made in China that were routed through those countries without significantly altering them to avoid tariffs.

U.S. imports from Vietnam are expected to reach $64.8 billion this year, up 36% from 2018, according to consulting firm A.T. Kearney.

"We're moving production to other parts of the world," Marvin Edwards, chief executive of CommScope Holding Co., said in June. The Hickory, N.C., company is making antennas for sale in the U.S. at its plant in India instead of China.

There is little evidence, though, of U.S. manufacturers bringing production from China back to the U.S., a move the Trump administration hoped the tariffs would encourage.

While imports from other Asian countries have climbed, U.S. manufacturing output has declined 1.5% through May from a recent peak reached in December, according to the Federal Reserve. The Institute for Supply Management said earlier this month that its manufacturing index slipped again in June to the lowest level since 2016.

"If we were to try to do a factory in the U.S., it would be enormously expensive," said John Hoge, co-owner of Sea Eagle Boats Inc., which makes 85% of its inflatable kayaks, canoes and fishing boats through contract manufacturers in China. Mr. Hoge said the network of manufacturers and suppliers in China that makes boats for Sea Eagle and many of its competitors isn't as comprehensive in any other country.

"It took us 20 years to build up the supply chain in China," he said. Mr. Hoge estimated the 25% duty on his products that took effect in May would double the Port Jefferson, N.Y., company's tariff expenses to about $500,000 a year.

Crown Crafts Inc. analyzed manufacturing costs in a half-dozen countries before deciding to keep making its baby blankets in China despite the tariff costs.

"It's very difficult to find a country that can do it competitive with China," Randall Chestnut, chief executive of the Louisiana company, told analysts in June.

More than 100 companies have asked the Commerce Department to waive the latest 25% tariff on their imports because they say they can't find suppliers outside of China.

One is Zoom Telephonics Inc., which said it lost $1.1 million during the first quarter and likely more in the second as a result of the tariffs on the cable-TV modems it imports from China and sells through Amazon.com Inc., Best Buy and other retailers.

"I don't think anybody makes them in the U.S.," Frank Manning, chief executive of the Boston-based company, said in an interview. "We're bleeding."

Write to Austen Hufford at austen.hufford@wsj.com and Bob Tita at robert.tita@wsj.com
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C’est la vie, sometimes you just Gotta do what you Gotta do. Those manufacturers that want to stay offshore should be selling strictly in the offshore markets we don’t need them!

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Jul 15, 2019 10:14:34   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Put the CEOs in prison for treason


Naw, stupidity isn’t breaking the law~~ lolll

Good morning to you~

Know what it feels like when the running waters of the mountain stream over you??? Pure heaven!!!
Know what it feels like when the running waters of...

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Jul 15, 2019 10:14:36   #
debeda
 
Dinty wrote:
The Feds are taxing me on part of my SS benefits. I just have my low pension and SS. My rent and insurance goes up and my income goes down. Soon I might have to move out of my apt. even out of state to stay within my income. If I could find a job, go back to work (age 92) the Feds would only tax me more.


Disgusting, Dinty, so sorry you're in that spot. I'm gonna be 68 in November, still working. I honestly dont know what I'll do if/when I cant work anymore

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Jul 15, 2019 10:54:17   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
lindajoy wrote:
Naw, stupidity isn’t breaking the law~~ lolll

Good morning to you~


Very nice and thank you Lin.

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Jul 15, 2019 11:33:27   #
Carol Kelly
 
Zemirah wrote:
In reading this story, it is disappointing that more of these U.S. companies are not, at the present, anyway, considering a return to manufacturing in the United States, despite the recent substantial drop in the U.S. Corporate tax rate.

Unwilling to compromise the drastic savings in worker's salaries they found in China, they are relocating to India, to Vietnam and to Taiwan and Malaysia, resulting in no benefit to U.S. workers.


Manufacturers Move Supply Chains Out of China

BY DJ Business News| Asia-Pacific , China | 5:44 AM ET 07/14/2019

U.S. manufacturers are shifting production to countries outside of China as trade tensions between the world's two biggest economies stretch into a second year.

Companies that make Crocs shoes, Yeti beer coolers, Roomba vacuums and GoPro cameras are producing goods in other countries to avoid U.S. tariffs of up to 25% on some $250 billion worth of imports from China. Apple Inc. also is considering shifting final assembly of some of its devices out of China to avoid U.S. tariffs.

Furniture-maker Lovesac Co. is making about 60% of its furniture in China, down from 75% at the start of the year. "We have been shifting production to Vietnam very aggressively," said Shawn Nelson, chief executive of the Stamford, Conn., company. Mr. Nelson said he plans to have no production in China by the end of next year.

The moves by U.S. companies add up to a reordering of global manufacturing supply chains as they prepare for an extended period of uneven trade relations. Executives at companies that are moving operations outside China said they expect to keep them that way because of the time and money invested in setting up new facilities and shifting shipping arrangements. Companies said the shifts accelerated after the tariff on many Chinese imports rose to 25% from 10% in May.

"Once you move, you don't go back," Mr. Nelson said.

Yeti Holdings Inc. said it plans to move most production of soft-sided coolers out of China by the end of this year. iRobot Corp. said it would start producing Roombas in Malaysia this year, too. Crocs Inc. said it expects less than 10% of U.S.-bound products to be made in China by next year, down from 30% in June. And diesel-engine maker Cummins Inc. said it has avoided $50 million in tariff expenses by moving some production to the U.K. and other countries.

Imports from China fell 12% in the year through May compared with a year earlier, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, the biggest decline since the financial crisis a decade ago.

The biggest beneficiaries of that decline have been other countries in Asia where production costs are low, such as Vietnam, India, Taiwan and Malaysia. Many of those countries have seen sharp increases in exports, although there have been allegations that some of that added traffic was due to goods made in China that were routed through those countries without significantly altering them to avoid tariffs.

U.S. imports from Vietnam are expected to reach $64.8 billion this year, up 36% from 2018, according to consulting firm A.T. Kearney.

"We're moving production to other parts of the world," Marvin Edwards, chief executive of CommScope Holding Co., said in June. The Hickory, N.C., company is making antennas for sale in the U.S. at its plant in India instead of China.

There is little evidence, though, of U.S. manufacturers bringing production from China back to the U.S., a move the Trump administration hoped the tariffs would encourage.

While imports from other Asian countries have climbed, U.S. manufacturing output has declined 1.5% through May from a recent peak reached in December, according to the Federal Reserve. The Institute for Supply Management said earlier this month that its manufacturing index slipped again in June to the lowest level since 2016.

"If we were to try to do a factory in the U.S., it would be enormously expensive," said John Hoge, co-owner of Sea Eagle Boats Inc., which makes 85% of its inflatable kayaks, canoes and fishing boats through contract manufacturers in China. Mr. Hoge said the network of manufacturers and suppliers in China that makes boats for Sea Eagle and many of its competitors isn't as comprehensive in any other country.

"It took us 20 years to build up the supply chain in China," he said. Mr. Hoge estimated the 25% duty on his products that took effect in May would double the Port Jefferson, N.Y., company's tariff expenses to about $500,000 a year.

Crown Crafts Inc. analyzed manufacturing costs in a half-dozen countries before deciding to keep making its baby blankets in China despite the tariff costs.

"It's very difficult to find a country that can do it competitive with China," Randall Chestnut, chief executive of the Louisiana company, told analysts in June.

More than 100 companies have asked the Commerce Department to waive the latest 25% tariff on their imports because they say they can't find suppliers outside of China.

One is Zoom Telephonics Inc., which said it lost $1.1 million during the first quarter and likely more in the second as a result of the tariffs on the cable-TV modems it imports from China and sells through Amazon.com Inc., Best Buy and other retailers.

"I don't think anybody makes them in the U.S.," Frank Manning, chief executive of the Boston-based company, said in an interview. "We're bleeding."

Write to Austen Hufford at austen.hufford@wsj.com and Bob Tita at robert.tita@wsj.com
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Buy AMERICAN!!!! You can do without these products.

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Jul 15, 2019 11:34:37   #
Carol Kelly
 
lindajoy wrote:
C’est la vie, sometimes you just Gotta do what you Gotta do. Those manufacturers that want to stay offshore should be selling strictly in the offshore markets we don’t need them!


Quite precisely.

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Jul 15, 2019 22:16:07   #
teabag09
 
dtucker300 wrote:
As long as we have people like AOC and Sanders spouting all of the socialism nonsense I wouldn't locate here. CA and Gov. Nuisance are dreaming up ways to tax Social Security benefits. Democrats have never met a tax they didn't like. As long as they stay to the left things will deteriorate.


Heck, our SS is taxed here already. $135.00 is taken out for Medi-Care part B and is subject to go higher. Mike

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Jul 15, 2019 22:25:54   #
debeda
 
teabag09 wrote:
Heck, our SS is taxed here already. $135.00 is taken out for Medi-Care part B and is subject to go higher. Mike


True, Mike

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Jul 15, 2019 23:38:59   #
maryjane
 
debeda wrote:
Disgusting. President Trump made every effort to make the US a good place to manufacture. Maybe time to find out who these companies are and no longer purchase their products


Well, they are not loyal Anericans, just money grabbers with loyalty to no one but money. I'm with you, would love a list of each company and the products they sell in the USA. My not purchasing their products will make no difference but it will make me feel better. I need to purchase a new auto but have put it off for years now because I want an American auto made in the USA with American parts by Americans and that seems impossible to find today. Are any of our auto companies even still owned by Americans?

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Jul 15, 2019 23:42:58   #
maryjane
 
ImLogicallyRight wrote:
It's business. Many would have eventually moved anyway to cheaper countries. Some will return to America to avoid transportation costs. Others won't. We're at full employment and steaming along.


So often, I wish we had a totally different type of leadership, one that would prioritize helping Americans start new businesses to replace those disloyal companies that moved to foreign nations, businesses to make all the things we need for daily life so we are not dependent on another country for any of the necessities.

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Jul 16, 2019 00:17:40   #
debeda
 
maryjane wrote:
Well, they are not loyal Anericans, just money grabbers with loyalty to no one but money. I'm with you, would love a list of each company and the products they sell in the USA. My not purchasing their products will make no difference but it will make me feel better. I need to purchase a new auto but have put it off for years now because I want an American auto made in the USA with American parts by Americans and that seems impossible to find today. Are any of our auto companies even still owned by Americans?
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I dont even know. I've been buying Fords, but they are made all over, tho I think they're still American owned. Saturn was before it's time, were they in business now I think they'd make a killing.

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Jul 16, 2019 00:24:40   #
debeda
 
maryjane wrote:
So often, I wish we had a totally different type of leadership, one that would prioritize helping Americans start new businesses to replace those disloyal companies that moved to foreign nations, businesses to make all the things we need for daily life so we are not dependent on another country for any of the necessities.


That would be President Trump If the bought and paid for Congress (both sides) would just get out of his way. Illinois now has a democratic super majority. In the 5 months since they were all sworn in, they've legalized full term abortion, legalized marijuana for recreational use AND retail sale, doubled the gas tax, raised registration of vehicles by 50%, quadrupled gambling licenses in the state, and raised sales taxes. Done deal. And they have other lousy programs up for vote. Not ONE of these programs are good for the people of Illinois, but will gives lots and lots of our money to the state. People should think long and hard before putting these immoral, dirty thieves in charge of the whole country.

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Jul 16, 2019 00:42:36   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
maryjane wrote:
Well, they are not loyal Anericans, just money grabbers with loyalty to no one but money. I'm with you, would love a list of each company and the products they sell in the USA. My not purchasing their products will make no difference but it will make me feel better. I need to purchase a new auto but have put it off for years now because I want an American auto made in the USA with American parts by Americans and that seems impossible to find today. Are any of our auto companies even still owned by Americans?
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No, because the parts come from all over the world. A Honda Accord is now more American than a Chevrolet.

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Jul 16, 2019 00:46:12   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
maryjane wrote:
So often, I wish we had a totally different type of leadership, one that would prioritize helping Americans start new businesses to replace those disloyal companies that moved to foreign nations, businesses to make all the things we need for daily life so we are not dependent on another country for any of the necessities.


Go to L.A or Orange County and count how much of the money is part of the underground economy now where the recipients don't pay taxes and operate on a cash basis only in little Mom & Pop store or Street Vendors. Most are recent immigrants. It is estimated as much as 40%. And their attitude is "that's okay," we will make the big businesses pay for everything.

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Jul 16, 2019 01:36:34   #
teabag09
 
maryjane wrote:
Well, they are not loyal Anericans, just money grabbers with loyalty to no one but money. I'm with you, would love a list of each company and the products they sell in the USA. My not purchasing their products will make no difference but it will make me feel better. I need to purchase a new auto but have put it off for years now because I want an American auto made in the USA with American parts by Americans and that seems impossible to find today. Are any of our auto companies even still owned by Americans?
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Maryjane, make yourself feel even better. Send some of these companies a email explaining why YOU won't being making a purchase. Your one email won't make any difference but if you encourage your list to do the same thing and there are enough, maybe, just maybe, these companies will get the message. A journey starts with the first step. Mike

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