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Jul 14, 2019 23:33:24   #
debeda
 
Zemirah wrote:
Boyotting their products is a temporary solution, seeing them go bankrupt would be a just reward.

An enterprising young company here in the U.S. could replace any of these companies, if banks would work with them on preliminary financing.


Yes, true!! Penny Mustard furniture actually has ads out about the tariffs - that they're not bad for their company cuz their furniture is made in America from American goods

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Jul 14, 2019 23:53:50   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
debeda wrote:
I agree completely!!! I wonder if our President Trump had any idea how deep and dark the swamp is when he took this on.....


Yes!!!!!!!! That's why, in spite of all his faults (he is only human), he prevailed in the election because he is the President we needed at this time.

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Jul 14, 2019 23:55:20   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
debeda wrote:
Disgusting. President Trump made every effort to make the US a good place to manufacture. Maybe time to find out who these companies are and no longer purchase their products


Put the CEOs in prison for treason

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Jul 14, 2019 23:55:44   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
The more new American companies that can be created, like Penny Mustard, the less dependent we will be on potential enemies like China, making our country safer in the future.

If a war breaks out, we do not want to be dependent on other, possibly hostile nations for necessary supplies.

- and the more factories, to begin again to manufacture the thousands of products that are no longer manufactured here at present, the more jobs for our own citizens.


debeda wrote:
Yes, true!! Penny Mustard furniture actually has ads out about the tariffs - that they're not bad for their company cuz their furniture is made in America from American goods

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Jul 15, 2019 00:01:30   #
debeda
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Yes!!!!!!!! That's why, in spite of all his faults (he is only human), he prevailed in the election because he is the President we needed at this time.



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Jul 15, 2019 00:02:15   #
debeda
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Put the CEOs in prison for treason


???? Hmmm. Not what I had in mind

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Jul 15, 2019 00:03:06   #
debeda
 
Zemirah wrote:
The more new American companies that can be created, like Penny Mustard, the less dependent we will be on potential enemies like China, making our country safer in the future.

If a war breaks out, we do not want to be dependent on other, possibly hostile nations for necessary supplies.

- and the more factories, to begin again to manufacture the thousands of products that are no longer manufactured here at present, the more jobs for our own citizens.



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Jul 15, 2019 00:19:06   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
debeda wrote:
???? Hmmm. Not what I had in mind


Just a thought anyway. These companies turned their backs on American workers and the country that made them great. They did it because they could. Where is the honor in leaving towns and people to die?

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Jul 15, 2019 00:23:36   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Zemirah wrote:
The more new American companies that can be created, like Penny Mustard, the less dependent we will be on potential enemies like China, making our country safer in the future.

If a war breaks out, we do not want to be dependent on other, possibly hostile nations for necessary supplies.

- and the more factories, to begin again to manufacture the thousands of products that are no longer manufactured here at present, the more jobs for our own citizens.


That's what bugs the socialists. They don't like a market system that encourages the entrepreneurial spirit. Get big government and bureaucracy out of the way and great things will happen. Trump understands this, as does any fifth grader who has a teacher that understands economics. Make the other countries dependent on us.

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Jul 15, 2019 03:42:00   #
Kevyn
 
debeda wrote:
Disgusting. President Trump made every effort to make the US a good place to manufacture. Maybe time to find out who these companies are and no longer purchase their products


That time was 30 years ago, it is water under the bridge. If you shop at Walmart you already sold out.

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Jul 15, 2019 07:47:37   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Zemirah wrote:
In reading this story, it is disappointing that more of these U.S. companies are not, at the present, anyway, considering a return to manufacturing in the United States, despite the recent substantial drop in the U.S. Corporate tax rate.

Unwilling to compromise the drastic savings in worker's salaries they found in China, they are relocating to India, to Vietnam and to Taiwan and Malaysia, resulting in no benefit to U.S. workers.


Manufacturers Move Supply Chains Out of China

BY DJ Business News| Asia-Pacific , China | 5:44 AM ET 07/14/2019

U.S. manufacturers are shifting production to countries outside of China as trade tensions between the world's two biggest economies stretch into a second year.

Companies that make Crocs shoes, Yeti beer coolers, Roomba vacuums and GoPro cameras are producing goods in other countries to avoid U.S. tariffs of up to 25% on some $250 billion worth of imports from China. Apple Inc. also is considering shifting final assembly of some of its devices out of China to avoid U.S. tariffs.

Furniture-maker Lovesac Co. is making about 60% of its furniture in China, down from 75% at the start of the year. "We have been shifting production to Vietnam very aggressively," said Shawn Nelson, chief executive of the Stamford, Conn., company. Mr. Nelson said he plans to have no production in China by the end of next year.

The moves by U.S. companies add up to a reordering of global manufacturing supply chains as they prepare for an extended period of uneven trade relations. Executives at companies that are moving operations outside China said they expect to keep them that way because of the time and money invested in setting up new facilities and shifting shipping arrangements. Companies said the shifts accelerated after the tariff on many Chinese imports rose to 25% from 10% in May.

"Once you move, you don't go back," Mr. Nelson said.

Yeti Holdings Inc. said it plans to move most production of soft-sided coolers out of China by the end of this year. iRobot Corp. said it would start producing Roombas in Malaysia this year, too. Crocs Inc. said it expects less than 10% of U.S.-bound products to be made in China by next year, down from 30% in June. And diesel-engine maker Cummins Inc. said it has avoided $50 million in tariff expenses by moving some production to the U.K. and other countries.

Imports from China fell 12% in the year through May compared with a year earlier, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, the biggest decline since the financial crisis a decade ago.

The biggest beneficiaries of that decline have been other countries in Asia where production costs are low, such as Vietnam, India, Taiwan and Malaysia. Many of those countries have seen sharp increases in exports, although there have been allegations that some of that added traffic was due to goods made in China that were routed through those countries without significantly altering them to avoid tariffs.

U.S. imports from Vietnam are expected to reach $64.8 billion this year, up 36% from 2018, according to consulting firm A.T. Kearney.

"We're moving production to other parts of the world," Marvin Edwards, chief executive of CommScope Holding Co., said in June. The Hickory, N.C., company is making antennas for sale in the U.S. at its plant in India instead of China.

There is little evidence, though, of U.S. manufacturers bringing production from China back to the U.S., a move the Trump administration hoped the tariffs would encourage.

While imports from other Asian countries have climbed, U.S. manufacturing output has declined 1.5% through May from a recent peak reached in December, according to the Federal Reserve. The Institute for Supply Management said earlier this month that its manufacturing index slipped again in June to the lowest level since 2016.

"If we were to try to do a factory in the U.S., it would be enormously expensive," said John Hoge, co-owner of Sea Eagle Boats Inc., which makes 85% of its inflatable kayaks, canoes and fishing boats through contract manufacturers in China. Mr. Hoge said the network of manufacturers and suppliers in China that makes boats for Sea Eagle and many of its competitors isn't as comprehensive in any other country.

"It took us 20 years to build up the supply chain in China," he said. Mr. Hoge estimated the 25% duty on his products that took effect in May would double the Port Jefferson, N.Y., company's tariff expenses to about $500,000 a year.

Crown Crafts Inc. analyzed manufacturing costs in a half-dozen countries before deciding to keep making its baby blankets in China despite the tariff costs.

"It's very difficult to find a country that can do it competitive with China," Randall Chestnut, chief executive of the Louisiana company, told analysts in June.

More than 100 companies have asked the Commerce Department to waive the latest 25% tariff on their imports because they say they can't find suppliers outside of China.

One is Zoom Telephonics Inc., which said it lost $1.1 million during the first quarter and likely more in the second as a result of the tariffs on the cable-TV modems it imports from China and sells through Amazon.com Inc., Best Buy and other retailers.

"I don't think anybody makes them in the U.S.," Frank Manning, chief executive of the Boston-based company, said in an interview. "We're bleeding."

Write to Austen Hufford at austen.hufford@wsj.com and Bob Tita at robert.tita@wsj.com
In reading this story, it is disappointing that mo... (show quote)


Corporations are less concerned about the tax rate than they are about the pay rate. Ask any corporate exec. what their largest expense is, and they'll say "payroll".

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Jul 15, 2019 08:32:30   #
debeda
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Just a thought anyway. These companies turned their backs on American workers and the country that made them great. They did it because they could. Where is the honor in leaving towns and people to die?


Well theres no idealism or patriotism for sure. Just chasing after "filthy lucre" just made me think, for all that a "victim mentality" has been pushed in our country for at least the past 40 years along with that comes fear. And I tell people this all the time - when you make decisions out of fear it's ALWAYS the wrong decision. In retrospect I see that in my own life.

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Jul 15, 2019 08:54:00   #
debeda
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Corporations are less concerned about the tax rate than they are about the pay rate. Ask any corporate exec. what their largest expense is, and they'll say "payroll".


That's cuz they're shortsighted and dumb. Payroll produces. There are many other places to pare expenses

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Jul 15, 2019 10:03:56   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
debeda wrote:
Well theres no idealism or patriotism for sure. Just chasing after "filthy lucre" just made me think, for all that a "victim mentality" has been pushed in our country for at least the past 40 years along with that comes fear. And I tell people this all the time - when you make decisions out of fear it's ALWAYS the wrong decision. In retrospect I see that in my own life.


You said a lot there---

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Jul 15, 2019 10:08:41   #
Dinty
 
dtucker300 wrote:
As long as we have people like AOC and Sanders spouting all of the socialism nonsense I wouldn't locate here. CA and Gov. Nuisance are dreaming up ways to tax Social Security benefits. Democrats have never met a tax they didn't like. As long as they stay to the left things will deteriorate.


The Feds are taxing me on part of my SS benefits. I just have my low pension and SS. My rent and insurance goes up and my income goes down. Soon I might have to move out of my apt. even out of state to stay within my income. If I could find a job, go back to work (age 92) the Feds would only tax me more.

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