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Jun 23, 2019 20:16:47   #
Hug
 
archie bunker wrote:
I've use John Lyon's methods as well. They work. I can trim the hooves on my old plug without any head gear. Horses are smart!
I won't go into my shoeing days. You guys are familiar with that.


I shod my own horses until I got too old.

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Jun 23, 2019 20:57:32   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Hug wrote:
I shod my own horses until I got too old.


Me too. And many others till I got hurt too bad to carry on.

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Jun 23, 2019 21:26:03   #
Idaho
 
I am hoping to train my first Oxen team next year. Learning to make shoes and shoe them should be a new experience.

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Jun 23, 2019 21:41:23   #
Hug
 
Idaho wrote:
I am hoping to train my first Oxen team next year. Learning to make shoes and shoe them should be a new experience.


What breed of cattle are you using?

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Jun 23, 2019 21:41:30   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Idaho wrote:
I am hoping to train my first Oxen team next year. Learning to make shoes and shoe them should be a new experience.


Keep me posted on that one.
I know it's a thing, and I have a book somewhere around here about it, but, I've never attempted it.

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Jun 23, 2019 21:46:12   #
Hug
 
archie bunker wrote:
Keep me posted on that one.
I know it's a thing, and I have a book somewhere around here about it, but, I've never attempted it.


I think working oxen could be a lost art.

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Jun 23, 2019 22:05:11   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Hug wrote:
I think working oxen could be a lost art.


Yes, you're right. I love watching the pulling contests with draft horses, and oxen!
A team working in tandem is a sight to see! And the trainer, or whatever you want to call him guiding them is amazing!

I've told my wife that before I die, I'll own a big ole draft horse, a Belgian, or Percheron.

I'd never get my legs back together after riding it, but.........I want one!

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Jun 24, 2019 07:49:48   #
Oldsalt
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
I'm glad you know what a cow is thinking. Many don't have that ability. I never said ranchers are cruel to their livestock. I said I consider rodeo cruel and inhumane. That what the animals go through can't be a pleasant experience. However, I would expect nothing less than the human element attempting to justify what they are doing, regardless of the obvious. And you're no exception.

By the way, have someone post a video of your first ride on the two-year-old. I wanna see your ass go flying. Bet ya won't post it though if things go south. Perhaps you have one of those no buck contraptions, or will have one of the horse's legs tied up when ya get on. Ha!
I'm glad you know what a cow is thinking. Many don... (show quote)


I broke my filly at three, dhe’s Now five and has fever bucked. I taught my wife how to ride on her. The colt is my wife’s, and for the next year she will be doing ground work with the horse. He was captured in October 2018 as a wild Mustang, we’ve had him for three weeks now and he comes when she calls him to dress (put on his halter). I’m very happy with his progress and no, I’ll not be getting bucked off and I will be the first one on him. You appear to be one of those bleeding hearts that know nothing of raising animals and have watched too many animated movies depicting animals that talk.

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Jun 24, 2019 08:48:18   #
Hug
 
Oldsalt wrote:
I broke my filly at three, dhe’s Now five and has fever bucked. I taught my wife how to ride on her. The colt is my wife’s, and for the next year she will be doing ground work with the horse. He was captured in October 2018 as a wild Mustang, we’ve had him for three weeks now and he comes when she calls him to dress (put on his halter). I’m very happy with his progress and no, I’ll not be getting bucked off and I will be the first one on him. You appear to be one of those bleeding hearts that know nothing of raising animals and have watched too many animated movies depicting animals that talk.
I broke my filly at three, dhe’s Now five and has ... (show quote)

We have handled a few mustang and they turned out good, except for one three year old mare. She was one of the most beautiful horses I have ever seen, but she never got over being scared.

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Jun 24, 2019 13:46:36   #
Hug
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
You dumb shit! I'll wager, I've started and owned more horses, have had more hands-on experience in a month, and with many types of domestic animals, than you've had in a lifetime. And, if you've never been bucked off that tells me, and anyone else who knows the game, that you're mostly blowin' hot air and have had little real experience starting a multitude of horses.

Now, I'll admit, the methods for starting a horse have changed from when guts and grit were requisite. Chasing a horse around in a corral till it's exhausted isn't, never has been, my style. Sooner or later, regardless of the method of trainin', ya gotta climb on. Might as well get right to it, rather than screw around.

By the way, I'm bettin' that two-year-old will send your happy ass flyin'. Wish I was there to see it.
I have a suggestion. Why don't ya invite some of us here on OPP to come and watch your aerial act? I'd be willing to invest in the price of a bus ticket.
You dumb shit! I'll wager, I've started and owned ... (show quote)

I have taken a lot of falls and been bucked off plenty of times and it is hard to believe someone can ride very many horses without being bucked off.

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Jun 30, 2019 16:06:22   #
johnsorrell7
 
Hug wrote:
Richard, you seem to be an all right guy, but please refrain from voicing opinions on subjects you know nothing about like rodeo. I coached rodeo in a past life and my son was a professional calf roper. I never saw a rodeo animal abused.


Is it also against the rules to kill them and eat them?????

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Jun 30, 2019 17:14:19   #
Idaho
 
johnsorrell7 wrote:
Is it also against the rules to kill them and eat them?????


I had heard that the really good bulls are used for breeding when their bucking days are over. Many of those bulls are worth as much as a decent racehorse.

But not counting the economics , yeah why not? Run them on good grass for a few months to lose some of their muscle tone and put them in the freezer. Many normal herd bulls go into the freezer after two or three seasons, unless another farm wants to take them over. Usually after two or three seasons, enough replacement heifers have been retained and dad is too closely related then to keep him in the herd.

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