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Jun 22, 2019 14:53:28   #
Richard Rowland
 
I don't care for rodeos. I find them cruel and inhumane. I happened to be watching a western TV channel that was featuring snippets of Baxter Black ( some on here may have heard of Baxter Black) reciting a combination of poetry and apocryphal cowboy tales when a short scene was shown of an attempt to milk a wild cow

The cow is roped to slow her down so three guys can catch her and wrestle the cow to a stop, or throw her down, in an attempt to get a bit of milk in a bottle.

The cow is terrified, not being able to decern the difference of these three guys from a wild animal attacking her. Thankfully, someone had the good sense to outlaw bullfighting.

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Jun 22, 2019 15:02:06   #
woodguru
 
Bull fighting is about as ridiculous as any "sport" involving animals as it gets...

equestrian disciplines can take it way to far with things like intentionally causing tender feet to make them step higher. Young two and three year old racehorses are pushed way too hard by some owners. I've known ethical horse breeders and they get disgusted by how the unethical side works.

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Jun 22, 2019 15:26:41   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
I don't care for rodeos. I find them cruel and inhumane. I happened to be watching a western TV channel that was featuring snippets of Baxter Black ( some on here may have heard of Baxter Black) reciting a combination of poetry and apocryphal cowboy tales when a short scene was shown of an attempt to milk a wild cow

The cow is roped to slow her down so three guys can catch her and wrestle the cow to a stop, or throw her down, in an attempt to get a bit of milk in a bottle.

The cow is terrified, not being able to decern the difference of these three guys from a wild animal attacking her. Thankfully, someone had the good sense to outlaw bullfighting.
I don't care for rodeos. I find them cruel and inh... (show quote)


Ever watch any bull riding? I can guarantee you the bull is not the one being abused.

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Jun 22, 2019 16:14:10   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
so now all the l*****ts want rodeo's n' calf ropin outlawed

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Jun 22, 2019 16:43:55   #
Hug
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
I don't care for rodeos. I find them cruel and inhumane. I happened to be watching a western TV channel that was featuring snippets of Baxter Black ( some on here may have heard of Baxter Black) reciting a combination of poetry and apocryphal cowboy tales when a short scene was shown of an attempt to milk a wild cow

The cow is roped to slow her down so three guys can catch her and wrestle the cow to a stop, or throw her down, in an attempt to get a bit of milk in a bottle.

The cow is terrified, not being able to decern the difference of these three guys from a wild animal attacking her. Thankfully, someone had the good sense to outlaw bullfighting.
I don't care for rodeos. I find them cruel and inh... (show quote)


Richard, you seem to be an all right guy, but please refrain from voicing opinions on subjects you know nothing about like rodeo. I coached rodeo in a past life and my son was a professional calf roper. I never saw a rodeo animal abused.

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Jun 22, 2019 16:47:29   #
Richard Rowland
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Ever watch any bull riding? I can guarantee you the bull is not the one being abused.


The bulls have no say in the matter, the guy riding does. And I have no idea how that strap or rope feels to the bull that causes it to buck. It must not be pleasant or they wouldn't buck as they do. It would be interesting to see how the bulls would react if one attempted to ride without the inducement of spurs or a tightened object applying pressure.

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Jun 22, 2019 18:27:31   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
The bulls have no say in the matter, the guy riding does. And I have no idea how that strap or rope feels to the bull that causes it to buck. It must not be pleasant or they wouldn't buck as they do. It would be interesting to see how the bulls would react if one attempted to ride without the inducement of spurs or a tightened object applying pressure.


You don't know much about bulls, do you?

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Jun 22, 2019 18:47:57   #
Gatsby
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Ever watch any bull riding? I can guarantee you the bull is not the one being abused.


I suspect that those bulls take great pleasure in pounding the crap out of the cowboys.

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Jun 22, 2019 19:39:57   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
The bulls have no say in the matter, the guy riding does. And I have no idea how that strap or rope feels to the bull that causes it to buck. It must not be pleasant or they wouldn't buck as they do. It would be interesting to see how the bulls would react if one attempted to ride without the inducement of spurs or a tightened object applying pressure.


Ever see a bull without any of that destroy a pickup, and damn near k**l a cowboy?

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Jun 22, 2019 19:45:07   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Gatsby wrote:
I suspect that those bulls take great pleasure in pounding the crap out of the cowboys.

umm-hmm I have a 4k plus lb watch bull...haven't put him on the portable ground scales lately-the kind the
Hwy Patrol uses...but this is what happens every evening...The donkey opens the latch to the gate to the pasture
closest to my command center right before dark-thirty...Blacky the Bull n' his harem of heifers and all
their calves camp around me all night laying in and slurpin the tall grass...If Anyone and I mean anyone
comes near this not so docile herd of angus besides me , they are headed for what I call a
"Texas Hoof Stompin Dance"

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Jun 22, 2019 19:45:26   #
Richard Rowland
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
You don't know much about bulls, do you?


I'm listening.

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Jun 22, 2019 20:25:27   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
I'm listening.


Some bulls, especially Brahmas, are just naturally mean as hell. They don't need much of an excuse to stomp something. Some of the cows are nearly as bad, for that matter.

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Jun 22, 2019 20:42:00   #
Hug
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Some bulls, especially Brahmas, are just naturally mean as hell. They don't need much of an excuse to stomp something. Some of the cows are nearly as bad, for that matter.


Speaking of cows, about three years back, my partner and I were going to treat an ordinary range cow for pink eye. We were putting her into the sweep when she returned on us and stomped us enough to put both of us in Mercy hospital to the tune of $35,000.

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Jun 22, 2019 21:15:50   #
Richard Rowland
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Some bulls, especially Brahmas, are just naturally mean as hell. They don't need much of an excuse to stomp something. Some of the cows are nearly as bad, for that matter.


That's nonsense! Some of the most docile cattle, I've encountered, are Brahmas. This spring, the guy who rents our Texas property changed out the Brahmas for beef master cattle, he has had mostly Brahmas throughout the prior winters we have spent there. They were like pets. They would come up, and I would hand feed 'em treats.

Unfortunately, the Brahma bull became sterile a year or-so-ago and was shipped, which was sad, for he too was as gentle as the cows. Often, however, due to weather conditions, the past winter, flies weren't a problem, as during past winters when flies were a menace, I would chase the flies off of his and the backs of the cows when the flies would be so thick they appeared as a carpet.

I have a picture among the zillions on my flip top phone, (I'm not sure, even if I could find it, that I can t***sfer it to the forum) where I'm sitting in a chair, enjoying the sun while reading the paper; the bull is standing behind me appearing to read over my shoulder.

In another picture, I have my arm around one of the cows. I was really disappointed to see them go.

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Jun 22, 2019 21:28:01   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
That's nonsense! Some of the most docile cattle, I've encountered, are Brahmas. This spring, the guy who rents our Texas property changed out the Brahmas for beef master cattle, he has had mostly Brahmas throughout the prior winters we have spent there. They were like pets. They would come up, and I would hand feed 'em treats.

Unfortunately, the Brahma bull became sterile a year or-so-ago and was shipped, which was sad, for he too was as gentle as the cows. Often, however, due to weather conditions, the past winter, flies weren't a problem, as during past winters when flies where a menace, I would chase the flies off of his and the backs of the cows when the flies would be so thick they appeared as a carpet.

I have a picture among the zillions on my flip top phone, (I'm not sure, even if I could find it, that I can t***sfer it to the forum) where I'm sitting in a chair, enjoying the sun while reading the paper; the bull is standing behind me appearing to read over my shoulder.

In another picture, I have my arm around one of the cows. I was really disappointed to see them go.
That's nonsense! Some of the most docile cattle, I... (show quote)


Many Brahmas have been interbred with milder mannered European strains. Maybe that's what you had. Most of the bulls I have seen don't take much prodding.

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