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Jun 17, 2019 10:03:49   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
Morgan wrote:
I agree suppression never helps. Suppression is the enemy of freedom.

Indeed.

It gives me great pleasure to find agreement with you, Morgan. Btw, I enjoyed your topic the other day about “democratic goals”- found myself more in agreement than not.

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Jun 17, 2019 10:49:46   #
Morgan
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Indeed.

It gives me great pleasure to find agreement with you, Morgan. Btw, I enjoyed your topic the other day about “democratic goals”- found myself more in agreement than not.


Thank you CC, do you recall the movie where Newman says "what we have here is a failure to communicate", might have been Cool Hand Luke, well that about sums it up in the US right now. This propaganda is undermining us, we need to nip it.

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Jun 17, 2019 11:04:31   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
Morgan wrote:
Thank you CC,

You’re welcome, ma’am... it’s just the facts.
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do you recall the movie where Newman says "what we have here is a failure to communicate", might have been Cool Hand Luke,

I do, and yes, it was.. https://youtu.be/452XjnaHr1A
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well that about sums it up in the US right now. This propaganda is undermining us, we need to nip it.

Agreed. A daunting task, which is sad considering the technology of today that makes communication almost instantaneous. Thinking the issue has more to do with comprehension, and finding agreement without conforming or temporarily suspending core beliefs and values.

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Jun 17, 2019 11:09:20   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
All I have seen on this thread is people bashing Liberals and people bashing conservatives. We can't win a war like that. Patriotism demands that we pay attention to who the real enemies are and band together as Americans and keep America forever free.


I support that statement

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Jun 17, 2019 11:50:11   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
rumitoid wrote:
The word patriotism or patriot should be forever banned as being anything more than a poor and shaky description of multiple and perhaps conflicting feelings regarding a nation.

That's right, keep trying to ban words and phrases until all ideas and their communication are controlled by an approved lexicon of political correctness and newspeak. What you propose is against the founding law of the land, but keep trying, you never know, right?

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Jun 17, 2019 12:44:23   #
waltmoreno
 
vernon wrote:
Im a conservative and dam proud of it.I was in the army before you were born so don't come on with your lying bullshit,your a commie freak.


Bingo. I joined the military at age 17, spent 18 months on tours to Vietnam as an ordnanceman. i'm a die hard patriot.
If anything it's the libs and dems who aren't patriots. They don't think America is anything exceptional. Or worth fighting for. We Republicans know better.

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Jun 17, 2019 13:01:46   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
I missed this earlier...
Just wanted to say you are absolutely right~< oh wait, left~~ lolol but right too..

Coos Bay Tom wrote:
To me Patriotism means defending the American way of life. Another thing is defending the constitutional rights of ALL Americans weather you agree with them or not.
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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Jun 17, 2019 13:38:09   #
Reality
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
All I have seen on this thread is people bashing Liberals and people bashing conservatives. We can't win a war like that. Patriotism demands that we pay attention to who the real enemies are and band together as Americans and keep America forever free.


Liberals are the real enemies. Sad but true.

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Jun 17, 2019 14:07:49   #
Big dog
 
Reality wrote:
Liberals are the real enemies. Sad but true.


👍

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Jun 17, 2019 15:23:22   #
woodguru
 
vernon wrote:
Im a conservative and dam proud of it.I was in the army before you were born so don't come on with your lying bullshit,your a commie freak.


Because you were in the army does not make you a patriot, because you support the 2nd amendment is not an automatic, I support reasonable gun laws and it does not mean I'm not, conservatives are not automatically patriots...far from it.

Those who supported the patriot act were not patriots, the liberals opposed to it were far more patriotic.

When you support someone who is tearing at the threads of democracy and our constitution you are not a patriot, you are an alt patriot just like everything about Trump is about alternative facts and fake news.

Believing you are a patriot means as much as believing you are a christian, you have to know what it is and be on the right side of acting like you know. The hard right is full of alt christians and patriots.

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Jun 17, 2019 15:36:41   #
Big dog
 
woodguru wrote:
Because you were in the army does not make you a patriot, because you support the 2nd amendment is not an automatic, I support reasonable gun laws and it does not mean I'm not, conservatives are not automatically patriots...far from it.

Those who supported the patriot act were not patriots, the liberals opposed to it were far more patriotic.

When you support someone who is tearing at the threads of democracy and our constitution you are not a patriot, you are an alt patriot just like everything about Trump is about alternative facts and fake news.

Believing you are a patriot means as much as believing you are a christian, you have to know what it is and be on the right side of acting like you know. The hard right is full of alt christians and patriots.
Because you were in the army does not make you a p... (show quote)


Judge not, lest yee be judged.
Let him without sin cast the first stone.

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Jun 17, 2019 16:14:54   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
woodguru wrote:
Because you were in the army does not make you a patriot, because you support the 2nd amendment is not an automatic, I support reasonable gun laws and it does not mean I'm not, conservatives are not automatically patriots...far from it.

Those who supported the patriot act were not patriots, the liberals opposed to it were far more patriotic.

When you support someone who is tearing at the threads of democracy and our constitution you are not a patriot, you are an alt patriot just like everything about Trump is about alternative facts and fake news.

Believing you are a patriot means as much as believing you are a christian, you have to know what it is and be on the right side of acting like you know. The hard right is full of alt christians and patriots.
Because you were in the army does not make you a p... (show quote)


Do you really feel that our service men from every war our country has waged were not patriots?
These patriots gave up their arms ,legs,their sight and even their very lives standing up for our country
I am a patriot
I believe in this nation
my country right or wrong
I am a patriot



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Jun 17, 2019 16:27:03   #
Big dog
 
badbobby wrote:
Do you really feel that our service men from every war our country has waged were not patriots?
These patriots gave up their arms ,legs,their sight and even their very lives standing up for our country
I am a patriot
I believe in this nation
my country right or wrong
I am a patriot


👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🍺🍺

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Jun 17, 2019 17:36:02   #
Rose42
 
woodguru wrote:
Because you were in the army does not make you a patriot, because you support the 2nd amendment is not an automatic, I support reasonable gun laws and it does not mean I'm not, conservatives are not automatically patriots...far from it.

Those who supported the patriot act were not patriots, the liberals opposed to it were far more patriotic.

When you support someone who is tearing at the threads of democracy and our constitution you are not a patriot, you are an alt patriot just like everything about Trump is about alternative facts and fake news.

Believing you are a patriot means as much as believing you are a christian, you have to know what it is and be on the right side of acting like you know. The hard right is full of alt christians and patriots.
Because you were in the army does not make you a p... (show quote)


You are in no position to determine who is and isn’t a patriot. No one here has any way of knowing if you are one either. You seldom talk like one. Who knows.

Many liberals supported the patriot act and many conservatives were against it. There was a cross section of each.

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Jun 17, 2019 17:55:00   #
Carol Kelly
 
rumitoid wrote:
Maybe not all....


Probably none.

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