Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Well, his employment is still a joy to him.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

News flash.. we had world wide great recession when President Obama took office..

We should be darn thankful, or some should, we had the food stamp net in law at the time.

As you should know, economic events, like the season of the year, have a fly wheel nature.

It takes a bit of time for the forces of the moment to show up in the level of food stamp applicants and usage..

A short delay both in starting and ending any cycle of usage.. Econ 101..

the crash was in 2008, President Obama took office in 2009.. that is well withing the time line..

And states make stamps more available as time went on.. that also is a good thing and the way a safty net should work..

Last, the reduction started before the orange guy sat down.

Now, as the con man makes every effort to kick the remaining people off of snap, It is only the normal rate of reduction so far..

If he can, trump will make them do with out food while he enjoys fries and a cheeseburger for his lunch..
But we, the taxpayers will still pay for his burger..


7 years, yes much longer then it would have been without McConnell obstruction..

Just think how well thing would have worked, they worked for much of the nation even as it was..

If they did not work in your state, thank McConnell and the "never say yes" republicans..

JoyV

And will restricting semiautomatics from law abiding citizens reduce school shootings? And why do you not care about the kids killed in school mass killing done with other weapons than semiautomatics such as the explosive devices used in the San Bernadino school mass murder of kids?

Why do the gun control advocates not care about the lives of the kids when they want to prevent anyone on hand to be able to defend the lives of the kids as has happened in school shootings in NON gun free zones? How about DEFENDING the kids?

A few examples of armed citizens stopping armed shooters at schools and places of worship.
Townville Elementary School, Townville SC.
Prince Middle School, Atlanta GA.
Chabad of Poway, Dan Diego CA
Isaac Campbell Middle School, Titusville, FL
Sutherland Springs Church, Sutherland Springs, TX
Clearlake Oaks High School, Clearlake Oaks, CA
Burnette Chapel Church of Christ, Antioch, TN
Georgia State, Atlanta GA
Parker Middle School, Edinboro, PA
Pearl High School, Pearl River, MS

How many kids would have died or been injured if there were no armed civilian around?

JoyV

If you READ both the US Constitution, and the writings of the founders on the issue; you'll see only a little concern expressed about a standing army but a LOT of concern about about threats to American freedoms both without and within our nation. Those advocates for a federal army still wanted an armed militia (all American citizens).

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

The harm coming from the orange sodomite is uncountable.. but with less then 2 years of his EO and much of his promoted changes still unauthorized.. we can still look a the right now and right here..

My persons most vile is the attempt to allow the Chilean mining company to begin mining in the water shed of the Boundary waters canoe wilderness.. they have a 100% negative record on ever one of the sulfide mines they have operated and have no good intents for American environment..

>>>

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/us-greenhouse-gas-emissions-spiked-in-2018--and-it-couldnt-happen-at-a-worse-time/2019/01/07/68cff792-12d6-11e9-803c-4ef28312c8b9_story.html?utm_term=.59d4c521e346

Health & Science
U.S. greenhouse gas emissions spiked in 2018 — and it couldn’t happen at a worse time
By Chris Mooney and
Brady Dennis January 8
U.S. carbon dioxide emissions rose an estimated 3.4 percent in 2018, according to new research — a jarring increase that comes as scientists say the world needs to be aggressively cutting its emissions to avoid the most devastating effects of climate change.

The findings, published Tuesday by the independent economic research firm Rhodium Group, mean that the United States now has a diminishing chance of meeting its pledge under the 2015 Paris climate agreement to dramatically reduce its emissions by 2025.

The findings also underscore how the world’s second-largest emitter, once a global leader in pushing for climate action, has all but abandoned efforts to mitigate the effects of a warming world. President Trump has said he plans to officially withdraw the nation from the Paris climate agreement in 2020 and in the meantime has rolled back Obama-era regulations aimed at reducing the country’s carbon emissions.


Also good reading..


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/02/15-ways-trump-administration-impacted-environment/

JoyV

Where ever did you get your graph? It is not only off by a little, it is a fantasy. Yes Obama took office in the biggest recession since the great depression. But for most of his term, food stamp enrollment INCREASED!!!! I cannot access the SNAP official page as it is currently down for maintenance. But graph after graph from many sites which get their info from official sources show this trend.

This first one is from the Mercatus Center.
The next from the Wall Street Journal.
The next from the Food Stamp Research Center.
note the nearly vertical climb under Obama.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

I understand that news if very difficult to grasp when the only thing truthful to your mind must come from the orange mouth..

I did not post all the things I looked at.. but I think I was very clear that the delay in reduction lasted until 2016 or so..

You may have to reread in order to understand my complicated reply to your orange comments..

No fear, do it..

JoyV

Even if the emmissions weren't a small fluctuation predicted by environmentalists to soon drop again, my question was what harm has his policies done. Since worldwide emmissions have been increasing at a huge rate in the last decade, and the world wide climate has been in a cooling trend, is this cooling a harm?

Note also that the chart I've included which breaks down the emmission to source categories indicate that those emmissions which are effected by government policy are still either reducing or remaining level. It is mostly private sector transportation which has seen the rise.

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/data-shows-decrease-us-greenhouse-gas-emissions-during-trumps-first-year-office

Attached file:
(Download)

Mikeyavelli

Plus the advantage of penicillin in cheese. No worries about clap or gongo.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

So your position is that we must wait until real harm is done before we attempt anything?

Of all developing nations, only the United States has fallen back in the last two years..

as far as damage.. Intent when combined with allowing must be a concern of every one of us..

No sense at all to simply wait until the river are burning once more..

Sad to say, without looking at the chart.. the EPA has been decimated by trump and henchmen..
recall the work to preserve documents back in 2017?? gee, bet you do not..

And you think that the United State as the largest polluter on the planet can simply rest on the accomplishments made under President Obama and not worry about the foolish deed of the chair sitter at this time?

So as we are in a cooling cycle now, that is the sun not the earth, think how lucky we are, the earth would be a great deal hotter then the record heat we are having now..

and look for ward to more of the same, but hotter..

Conditions in 2017
According to the American Meteorological Society's State of the Climate in 2017, the year brought an end to the three-year streak of new record temperatures that were set each year from 2014­­­­­–2016. Depending on the data set used, 2017 came in second or third warmest, after 2016 (warmest) and 2015 (second or third warmest). The near-record temperatures occurred in the absence of El Niño, which is usually a factor in extreme global warmth. For much of 2017, El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) conditions were neutral, and October 2017 brought the start of La Niña, which typically drops global temperatures. Despite this, 2017 readings were 0.38­–0.48° Celsius (0.68–0.86° Fahrenheit) above the 1981–2010 average, depending on the dataset. It was the warmest non-El Niño year in the instrumental record.




Did you see all the information i included about guns with global warming data?

that is the subject of this Thread.. perhaps we should stick to it..

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

I kind of figure lil peter has got it going on.

Mikeyavelli

A thousand years ago if a Shaman told his tribe he would make it rain if he was paid you'd be the first to give him all your seashells.
Man has nothing to do with the climate or the weather. You kommiecrats are all Bullnadler.
Suckers cooperating with those who need to weaken America by cutting off their energy. Bullnadler.

John King

Why do you disregard all the evidence that climate change IS NOT a consequence of human actions? Until you address ALL the evidence . . . pro and con . . . your opinion is just that . . . YOUR OPINION!!!

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

In truth, we "fine Christian Conservatives" are very concerned about the safety of the children no matter where they are--at home, at play, in church, in school or in the womb.

We "fine Christian Conservatives" have continuously sought realistic approaches to improving the safety of our children, we have put forth many proposals, suggestion, ideas, and solutions, all of which seem to hit the solid walls of progressive politics and politically correct policies.

Regarding the killing of children in schools, we "fine Christian Conservatives" fully understand that dealing with the effect rather than the cause is entirely irrational and doomed to fail every time. Put simply, blaming the instrument or device used to kill the children is pure unrealistic nonsense. Banning a particular type of instrument or device can never solve the problem. IOW, banning a semi-auto firearm is no more effective in preventing a school shooting than banning a currette, a spinal syringe or a decapitator will stop abortions.

To put some perspective on this, in 2017, mass shootings took the lives of 461 people, 77 of whom died in school shootings, 43 of them were students.

In 2017, 72,000 people died of Opioid overdose, 4200 (approx) were under age 24.

In addition, medical professionals and health organizations are becoming increasingly alarmed at the rate of birth defects and infant addiction due to Opioids such as codeine, morphine and oxycodone, prescribed for pregnant women. These problems include miscarriages, preterm labor and premature birth, heart defects and spina bifida, fetal growth restriction, gastroschisis, and Neonatal abstinence syndrome (addiction), just to name a few. The number of babies suffering these defects is in the thousands.

For all your babbling about logical fallacies and irrational thinking, your demand for banning semi-auto firearms is about as illogical and irrational as it gets.

amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle

Unless the governor of Virginia is around.