Trump Hijacking The 4th Of July Celebration Is An Ill Conceived Train Wreck...It's Not A Political Event
Jun 6, 2019 17:24:57 #
woodguru wrote:
Why is it so painful for the right to simply express truthful opinions when they involve criticizing Trump?
Quit Trying To Convince Trump Supporters
You Need To Convince The Millions Of Viewers
The Left CNN, MSNBC, NYT Has Lost
Before They Get To The Polls In 2020
Layoffs In Left Media Are Wide-Spread
Jun 6, 2019 17:29:08 #
Rose42 wrote:
I've said I don't like him and didn't vote for him numerous times. That's never been painful for me to say.
Nor has it been painful for me to say we need to dump both parties and start fresh - get rid of ALL career politicians. They keep betraying us and people keep accepting it beyond all reason.
The democrat party of old that used to stand for liberty is long dead. Deal with it.
Nor has it been painful for me to say we need to dump both parties and start fresh - get rid of ALL career politicians. They keep betraying us and people keep accepting it beyond all reason.
The democrat party of old that used to stand for liberty is long dead. Deal with it.
Actually you are smack on to something I've thought, that we need to drop the multi party system and vote for people who can do the job without the trying to form two ways of accomplishing things.
The republican party has lost some good people due to primary challenges paid for by billionaires that put worthless nut jobs in office. Dems are quickly following suit and losing better options for establishment players.
Jun 6, 2019 17:31:10 #
karpenter wrote:
Because The 4th Of July Is A Month Away
It Hasn't Even Happened Yet ??
You've Told Us All About 'Russian Collusion'
Daily, For The Last Two Years
Your Thought Shapers Aren't Liars ??
It Hasn't Even Happened Yet ??
You've Told Us All About 'Russian Collusion'
Daily, For The Last Two Years
Your Thought Shapers Aren't Liars ??
Manafort and Flynn are proof, many others in the Mueller report
Jun 6, 2019 17:44:52 #
woodguru wrote:
Actually you are smack on to something I've thought, that we need to drop the multi party system and vote for people who can do the job without the trying to form two ways of accomplishing things.
The republican party has lost some good people due to primary challenges paid for by billionaires that put worthless nut jobs in office. Dems are quickly following suit and losing better options for establishment players.
The republican party has lost some good people due to primary challenges paid for by billionaires that put worthless nut jobs in office. Dems are quickly following suit and losing better options for establishment players.
Drop multi party altogether or go with a couple more? Are you thinking a free for all with no party attachments?
We need major election overhaul.
Jun 6, 2019 17:54:15 #
woodguru wrote:
Manafort and Flynn are proof, many others in the Mueller report
There Is No Proof
The Fantasy Is All In Your Un-Hinged Mind
Jun 6, 2019 23:32:07 #
John King wrote:
"...Trump Hijacking The 4th Of July Celebrati... (show quote)
I suppose your fingers are broke and so therefore you can't do any of your own research and see for yourself what Trump plans? Since it would seem that you may be a quadriplegic and can't type into a search engine (even though Stephen Hawkings never used to have any trouble with that), I will supply the "only real news" version for you, you are of the Trumpian party, correct?.
https://www.westernjournal.com/democrats-furious-trump-moves-take-d-c-fourth-july-celebration/
Jun 7, 2019 00:51:46 #
woodguru wrote:
Which is my point, it is not a day or celebration that has anything to do with Trump, and people should not have to make that choice. Trump does not need to make a huge event about him. For once he can let events be what they are. Not to mention it turns a well integrated day where people from both sides can let be about independence day versus a trump rally.
Of all I left in that comment, you pick one slice of it . . . and take it out of context in the process! I wasn't agreeing with you AT ALL! I was saying simply . . . if YOU don't want to hear him speak, THEN DON'T GO! There are plenty of people that do!!!
It may not be a day about Donald Trump . . . but it is a day about which is perfectly appropriate for the President to speak on! Regardless of who is the President, the President is perhaps the most appropriate person to speak on the 4th of July! Perhaps it would be wise to wait and see what he has to say . . . INSTEAD OF MAKING ALL YOUR ACCUSATIONS THAT COULD TURN OUT TO BE NOTHING!!!
Jun 7, 2019 09:40:47 #
woodguru wrote:
Of course he bills it as making it the biggest 4th... (show quote)
"Stumping" on Independence Day is in Fact a Centuries old Tradition in this nation.
But if President Trump honors this Centuries old Tradition, you consider it an impeachable offense.
Your Desperation is showing, again.
Jun 7, 2019 14:22:34 #
Gatsby wrote:
"Stumping" on Independence Day is in Fact a Centuries old Tradition in this nation.
But if President Trump honors this Centuries old Tradition, you consider it an impeachable offense.
Your Desperation is showing, again.
But if President Trump honors this Centuries old Tradition, you consider it an impeachable offense.
Your Desperation is showing, again.
You are correct, a simple search showed 4 presidents BESIDES Trump giving a fourth of July address, 3 real presidents and one fake one (Bill Pullman as President Thomas J. Whitmore) all gave Independence day addresses besides Trump. The real presidents that my simple search showed that gave one were, Franklin D. Roosevelt, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Ronald Reagan and Barrack Obama.
Of course the difference is the content of such speeches. I was unable to locate either Roosevelt's or Kennedy's speeches, but I was able to locate a sampling (a transcript of one speech given by Reagan) of a Reagan independence day address, a sampling of an Obama address on the 4th and one by Trump. Reagan and Obama were quite presidential in their speeches, as I am sure Roosevelt and Kennedy likely were as well, even President Thomas J. Whitmore's (the fictional president played by Bill Pullman in Independence Day) address was very presidential, Trump, not so much. Of course we all know Trump isn't usually presidential in his speeches or in anything else for that matter, with some rare and very welcome exceptions. I anticipate this upcoming 4th bash will not likely be one of those rare exceptions. I expect that Trump will take the opportunity to do a bit more chest Thumping, opposition and media bashing and who knows what else he has in store for us but I do not intend to attend it all the same.
Reagan: https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/research/speeches/70486c
Obama: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/07/04/remarks-president-fourth-july-celebration
Whitmore: https://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/moviespeechindependenceday.html
Trump: https://factba.se/transcript/donald-trump-speech-celebrate-freedom-rally-july-1-2017 (Broken down into segments with positive/negative ratings, includes the transcript and sound bites of each segment.)
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https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/340404-trump-hits-media-honors-veterans-in-first-4th-of-july-speech-as-president (Article by a conservative media source, does not include transcript of entire address)
https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/340404-trump-hits-media-honors-veterans-in-first-4th-of-july-speech-as-president
P.S. Trumps' address did not fall directly on the 4th of July, it was on 7/1/2017.
Edit: Roosevelt: https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/franklin-d-roosevelts-fourth-of-july-address-video (No transcript but audio over a still)
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