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Jun 2, 2019 21:16:58   #
moldyoldy
 
byronglimish wrote:
Thank you moldy, we need more Arpaio types at our border.


They should have made him wear pink panties and live in a sweat box.

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Jun 2, 2019 21:40:33   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
They should have made him wear pink panties and live in a sweat box.


He could have borrowed the panties from Baaraak Obama

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Jun 3, 2019 01:52:43   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
moldyoldy wrote:
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2017/07/31/maricopa-county-sheriff-joe-arpaio-found-guilty-criminal-contempt-court/486278001/


Over his nearly 24 years as sheriff, Arpaio had racked up a legacy of lawsuits, inmate deaths, and allegations of rights abuses and constitutional violations.
In an interview with The Crime Report Tuesday, former Mesa Police Chief George Gascón, who now serves as San Francisco District Attorney, said Arpaio's fixation with arresting undocumented immigrants left the sheriff's office drained of resources that were necessary to investigate crimes.
Gascónon also said that during his tenure at the Mesa police department between 2006 and 2009, his city saw a reduction in both violent and property crime. Yet just across the city lines, in the areas of Maricopa County that were policed by Sheriff Joe Arpaio, "crime consistently went up," Gascón said.
A report by the conservative, Arizona-based Goldwater Institute partly confirmed Gascón's analysis, determining that reported violent crimes in Maricopa County rose by 69% and homicides leapt 166% between 2004 and 2007, meanwhile Mesa's violent crime rate dropped by 11% and its homicide rate remained stable. Over the entire span of Arpaio's tenure, however, crime overall tended to fluctuate year by year, with property crime dropping significantly, while violent crime remained stable or dropped slightly in certain years.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ex-sheriff-joe-arpaios-obsession-with-arresting-immigrants-spiked-crime-2017-8
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix... (show quote)


Who is right? I don't know! As usual, there are two sides to every story. And his is troubling.

I do know that if Obama's Administration and ICE had done their job, Arpaio would not have needed to bother with illegal aliens. Now, this entire article is a case of "According to Gascón,...", "Gascón attributed,...", Gascón's analysis...", "Gascón also said..." Gascon is the guy who is now the San Fiasco District Attorney, and he will not cooperate with federal authorities, essentially turning the city into a sanctuary city. This is the city that taxes residents extra for homelessness programs that don't work, attracts more homeless, allows drug users to shoot-up in the hallways of city building, lets the mentally ill and homeless wander the streets to defecate anywhere they like, allows gay fetish festivals with nudity and sex acts in public that would make Sodom and Gomorrah blush if they could. Yeah, I put a lot of credence in what Gascon says. I am sure the family of Kate Steinle has nothing but the utmost respect for Gascon (sarcasm). Remember Kate Steinle? I would say Gascon is no choirboy himself.

If you want to read all about Arpaio here is a link to his Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio
Of Course, we all know that Wikipedia is the unvarnished truth and 100% accurate all the time and is free of any bias.

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Jun 3, 2019 01:55:05   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
moldyoldy wrote:
They should have made him wear pink panties and live in a sweat box.


LOL

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Jun 3, 2019 02:51:55   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Who is right? I don't know! As usual, there are two sides to every story. And his is troubling.

I do know that if Obama's Administration and ICE had done their job, Arpaio would not have needed to bother with illegal aliens. Now, this entire article is a case of "According to Gascón,...", "Gascón attributed,...", Gascón's analysis...", "Gascón also said..." Gascon is the guy who is now the San Fiasco District Attorney, and he will not cooperate with federal authorities, essentially turning the city into a sanctuary city. This is the city that taxes residents extra for homelessness programs that don't work, attracts more homeless, allows drug users to shoot-up in the hallways of city building, lets the mentally ill and homeless wander the streets to defecate anywhere they like, allows gay fetish festivals with nudity and sex acts in public that would make Sodom and Gomorrah blush if they could. Yeah, I put a lot of credence in what Gascon says. I am sure the family of Kate Steinle has nothing but the utmost respect for Gascon (sarcasm). Remember Kate Steinle? I would say Gascon is no choirboy himself.

If you want to read all about Arpaio here is a link to his Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio
Of Course, we all know that Wikipedia is the unvarnished truth and 100% accurate all the time and is free of any bias.
Who is right? I don't know! As usual, there are ... (show quote)


The sherriff was put in an unfair position...

Regardless of the policies of an administration, the law of the land is still the law of the land...

He chose to make a stand and serve the people who elected him...

I have always been torn by the case... I believe that lae enforcement officers have a duty to obeY the federal government.. But the federal government has a duty to obey the laws put there by the federal government...

In my opinion he did the right thing...

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Jun 3, 2019 07:05:16   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The sherriff was put in an unfair position...

Regardless of the policies of an administration, the law of the land is still the law of the land...

He chose to make a stand and serve the people who elected him...

I have always been torn by the case... I believe that lae enforcement officers have a duty to obeY the federal government.. But the federal government has a duty to obey the laws put there by the federal government...

In my opinion he did the right thing...
The sherriff was put in an unfair position... br ... (show quote)
I have relatives in Arizona and I was told of horror stories where Arpaio 's deputys would show up in a neighborhood in a bus and start breaking in doors and collecting people up. They would not leave till the bus was full. Two of my relatives keep their birth certificates and their mothers phone number with them at all times.

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Jun 3, 2019 08:15:25   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I have relatives in Arizona and I was told of horror stories where Arpaio 's deputys would show up in a neighborhood in a bus and start breaking in doors and collecting people up. They would not leave till the bus was full. Two of my relatives keep their birth certificates and their mothers phone number with them at all times.


That is horrid...

Is that even legal?

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Jun 3, 2019 09:43:04   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
That is horrid...

Is that even legal?


It was not and that is why Arpaio was ordered to cease enforcing immigration law. That is why he was facing jail before trump pardoned him.

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Jun 3, 2019 10:17:53   #
SchneckenFresser
 
byronglimish wrote:
He could have borrowed the panties from Baaraak Obama


What a coarse, stupid post. You are so typical of the smug and hateful Righties who spill their prejudices across these pages which were meant for rational political discussion. You are the type of creep who maintains that Michelle Obama is a transsexual but still has a penis which you so gleefully claim to discern in some photos. It is scary to realize that you are not a rare manifestation of your breed, but one of millions of benighted losers taken in by Drumpfelthinskin.

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Jun 3, 2019 10:38:25   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
SchneckenFresser wrote:
What a coarse, stupid post. You are so typical of the smug and hateful Righties who spill their prejudices across these pages which were meant for rational political discussion. You are the type of creep who maintains that Michelle Obama is a transsexual but still has a penis which you so gleefully claim to discern in some photos. It is scary to realize that you are not a rare manifestation of your breed, but one of millions of benighted losers taken in by Drumpfelthinskin.




Man Schlicklegrooven, did you wake up with a bit of sand in your vagima this morning?

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Jun 3, 2019 11:44:04   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I have relatives in Arizona and I was told of horror stories where Arpaio 's deputys would show up in a neighborhood in a bus and start breaking in doors and collecting people up. They would not leave till the bus was full. Two of my relatives keep their birth certificates and their mothers phone number with them at all times.


Hell, Tom I keep my drivers license and a copy of my BC with me all the time. I've done so for years, and there is no way I could ever be mistaken for Hispanic. (Por supuesto, podría comenzar a hablar solo para tirar de sus cadenas.)

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Jun 3, 2019 11:57:34   #
moldyoldy
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The sherriff was put in an unfair position...

Regardless of the policies of an administration, the law of the land is still the law of the land...

He chose to make a stand and serve the people who elected him...

I have always been torn by the case... I believe that lae enforcement officers have a duty to obeY the federal government.. But the federal government has a duty to obey the laws put there by the federal government...

In my opinion he did the right thing...
The sherriff was put in an unfair position... br ... (show quote)


There are distinct divisions in law enforcement, sheriffs are not supposed to be immigration enforcers.

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Jun 3, 2019 17:38:30   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
There are distinct divisions in law enforcement, sheriffs are not supposed to be immigration enforcers.


Then, I guess that would apply to all other Federal laws? You know, drugs, guns, etc....

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Jun 4, 2019 01:30:47   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Hell, Tom I keep my drivers license and a copy of my BC with me all the time. I've done so for years, and there is no way I could ever be mistaken for Hispanic. (Por supuesto, podría comenzar a hablar solo para tirar de sus cadenas.)



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Jun 4, 2019 07:53:27   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Hell, Tom I keep my drivers license and a copy of my BC with me all the time. I've done so for years, and there is no way I could ever be mistaken for Hispanic. (Por supuesto, podría comenzar a hablar solo para tirar de sus cadenas.)

Clearly, based on appearance and disposition, you are a Visigoth.

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