A sincere question to believers in a creator God…
Jun 2, 2019 20:58:46 #
Rose42 wrote:
But you have been proven wrong numerous times - you just deny it. Especially for many of your memes.
Being proven wrong doesn't make one guilty of a fallacy... Sigh...
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You don’t even know why you lash out. Christ is offensive to many. The most loving, forgiving and merciful God and you hate him. So you pick a target for your hatred and that’s Blade. You’re far from the first to ever do this. CD has also done it as he’s had some holes poked in his claims.
Peter has clearly explained why he lashes out... Critical reading...
Peter doesn't yell fallacy...
He provides the fallacy and shows how it applies to the argument...
What holes have I had poked into my claims?
(note: you disagreeing is not poking a hole in a claim...)
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If you don’t even know the subject of what you’re arguing about always yelling ‘fallacy’ has no merit
There is much truth in this... Ironically....
Jun 2, 2019 21:08:48 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Then provide examples of where Peter used a fallac... (show quote)
A lot of his memes are easy examples of him using fallacies. I don’t bother reading a lot of his posts anymore.
His arguments reflect blind partisanship and a hatred for God. Nothing more. No matter if at times well articulated, blind is blind.
Jun 2, 2019 21:39:21 #
Rose42 wrote:
A lot of his memes are easy examples of him using fallacies. I don’t bother reading a lot of his posts anymore.
We are agreed on this...
His arguments reflect blind partisanship and a hatred for God. Nothing more. No matter if at times well articulated, blind is blind.[/quote]
Yet you choose to engage him?
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Jun 2, 2019 21:40:17 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
How would one prove that prayer is answered by God and not Satan?
By this reasoning we should disregard all prayer based miracles as possible SatanIc influences....
By this reasoning we should disregard all prayer based miracles as possible SatanIc influences....
That reminds me of the time Jesus was accused of throwing out demons by the power of demons . . . not sure how that applies but . . . . just a thought.
Jun 2, 2019 21:46:21 #
John King wrote:
That reminds me of the time Jesus was accused of throwing out demons by the power of demons . . . not sure how that applies but . . . . just a thought.
Ah.. But Jesus had the Lord to Witness for him...
A most excellent source for verification...
Not too mention the demons recognized him for who he was... More verification...
Jun 2, 2019 21:46:36 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
According to Muslims, Allah does not answer personal prayers nor does Allah perform healing miracles.Apologies... I didn't comment on the story...
I am familiar with it...
Beautiful the power of prayer...
Did you know that it works equally for Muslims, Buddhists and Hindus?
Wonder what that means?
I am familiar with it...
Beautiful the power of prayer...
Did you know that it works equally for Muslims, Buddhists and Hindus?
Wonder what that means?
Buddhists do not believe in a god or Creator.
Hindus have 33 million deities (gods and goddesses) to choose from, none of whom answer prayers or perform miracles.
The real miracle is the number of Muslims now converting to Christianity and the number of Christians who refuse to convert to Islam at the cost of their lives.
Jun 2, 2019 21:48:22 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Yet you choose to engage him?
Once in a while. It is a forum. Lol
I sometimes read to see if he’s softened his heart for God. There’s always hope
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Jun 2, 2019 22:09:01 #
Rose42 wrote:
Once in a while. It is a forum. Lol
I sometimes read to see if he’s softened his heart for God. There’s always hope
I sometimes read to see if he’s softened his heart for God. There’s always hope
Cheers to that
Jun 2, 2019 22:13:49 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
According to Muslims, Allah does not answer personal prayers nor does Allah perform healing miracles.
Not sure where you get this from...
Many Muslims pray and believe that God answers their prayers...
And of course they believe that God performs healing miracles...
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Buddhists do not believe in a god or Creator.
Some do.. Depends on the denomination...
And what is your point?
Their prayers are still valid...
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Hindus have 33 million deities (gods and goddesses) to choose from, none of whom answer prayers or perform miracles.
So you have never met a Hindu?
Read up a bit on Hinduism...
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The real miracle is the number of Muslims now converting to Christianity and the number of Christians who refuse to convert to Islam at the cost of their lives.
How is that a miracle?
I have met Christians who willing converted to Islam ...And there are many Muslims who refuse to give up their faith and are murdered for it... Often by fundamentalIst Muslims...
What is your point?
Jun 2, 2019 23:44:32 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Always the contentious one, aren't you? Doesn't matter what someone posts, you always come back to contradict.How is that a miracle?
I have met Christians who willing converted to Islam ...And there are many Muslims who refuse to give up their faith and are murdered for it... Often by fundamentalIst Muslims...
What is your point?
I have met Christians who willing converted to Islam ...And there are many Muslims who refuse to give up their faith and are murdered for it... Often by fundamentalIst Muslims...
What is your point?
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So you have never met a Hindu?
Yes, not only have I met a Hindu, I've known a number of them. Classmates and one was a professor. Took an elective titled "Archetype, Myth, and Scripture". The Holy Bible, the Bhagavad Gita, and the Rigvedas (which included the 9th and 10th Mandalas) were our primary texts, along with five or six ancillary books on criticism, archetype, and myths.
Jun 3, 2019 01:00:37 #
Rose42 wrote:
Yes everyone does at times. Including those who accuse others of using them. And they are often wrong when claiming them when not knowledgeable of the subject matter. Its their fallback position.
Rose, logical fallacies are not just opinions expressed by someone in an argument. Logical fallacies are errors in logic as defined by international debate societies.
One you hear frequently mentioned is "begging the question". However, people who use the phrase almost always use it incorrectly. It is used as if it meant 'the question surely arises and needs to be responded to'. That is not the logical fallacy definition of begging the question. The usual way you hear the fallacy referred to is as "circular reasoning". The actual name given to circular reasoning is 'begging the question'.
Referring to a logical fallacy is very different from calling an argument fallacious.
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Jun 3, 2019 01:46:06 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yes, not only have I met a Hindu, I've known a number of them. Classmates and one was a professor. Took an elective titled "Archetype, Myth, and Scripture". The Holy Bible, the Bhagavad Gita, and the Rigvedas (which included the 9th and 10th Mandalas) were our primary texts, along with five or six ancillary books on criticism, archetype, and myths.
I just spoke with six of my Indian friends... Five Hindus and a Christian... They are all stunned by the ignorance of your statement...
They absolutely pray to their gods and expect miracles... Two claimed to have personally witnessed miracles of healing...
You'll excuse me if I take their word over yours... Not that I don't think you know their faith better than they do... It's just that I tend to take the word of practioners a bit more seriously than the word of those who have never practiced a faith....
Jun 3, 2019 03:01:14 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Do your Hindu friends practice a daily Nitya? I just spoke with six of my Indian friends... Five... (show quote)
What images or icons do they worship?
Unlike Yahweh, Brahma is an impersonal god, do they pray to Brahma or one of the other deities? Krishna? Vishnu?
How often do they perform or participate in a puja?
What scripture do they read?
What sort of healing did your Hindu friends witness, and what deity provided it?
Ask your Hindu friends if they know who Brahmacharya Nandkishor is. If they know, they may wonder how I know him.
I don't care what your Hindu friends think about my statement. Although I am not nor ever will be a Hindu, I spent 6 years in close association with Hindus and their traditions. I am not ignorant of Hinduism.
I figured you'd come up with some way to try to discredit me, you do it every time I post something.
Jun 3, 2019 03:55:45 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Do your Hindu friends practice a daily Nitya? br ... (show quote)
I truly am not seeking to discredit you...
But the idea that Hindus don't pray with the expectation of their gods answering the prayers is absurd...
Why make such a statement?
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Hindus have 33 million deities (gods and goddesses) to choose from, none of whom answer prayers or perform miracles.
Though I did not closely question my friends as to their exact beliefs I did have a fairly lengthy conversation with one woman... Her aunt was healed of stomach cancer... She attributed it to prayer... The only name I was familiar with that she mentioned was Vishnu... Though I don't recall that she attributed the healing directly to Vishnu...
I am certainly not familiar with the name Brahmacharya Nandkishor, but I will certainly ask...
If you are familiar with a practice Why would you make such a claim about it?
Jun 3, 2019 04:51:42 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Do your Hindu friends practice a daily Nitya? br ... (show quote)
Several of my friends are familiar with the name... Claim he wrote vetas... And that you must be fairly old to have known him in person...
Having known him, how is it you came to make your claim concerning Hinduism? (their question... Not mine)
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