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May 27, 2019 13:31:23   #
Airforceone
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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President Trump's father worked hard., just as Donald Trump. and children did. President Trump had engaged on various business in the past, and he earned what he has now. That is why he does not receive salary for being a US president. Unlike the democrats, they steal taxpayers' money. E.g Hillary Clinton.

Some of Donald's businesses lost. E.g. the one in New Jersey. But most of them made profits. That is how business operates. You lose but gains exceed the losses.

You people don't understand because all you do are spending the taxpayers' money via hand outing until nothing is left. Now, how has your Food Stamps, gone down? How are you doing? Learn to be honest and accept what is right. You'll be thankful later.

I hope you learn more AF1, so as not to depend on taxpayers. You'll be a lot happier and fulfilled. Don't listen to FAKE NEWS.
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What the hell is wrong with you the financials released to date show in lost $1.7 billion in 8 years. The only thing missing now is where did that scam get the funds to bail him out. If we ever get hold of his tax returns it will show he was using a scam with Russian laundering scam. Same thing with Jared Kushner and the $845 million he received from the Saudis.

Damm do any of you people ever listened since 2005 there was no major bank that would do any kind of business with Trump.

You people ignore everything. His father left him $450 million and it didn’t take him long to loose that. How can he be successful and never paid a dime in taxes.

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May 27, 2019 16:17:37   #
Jean Deaux
 
prowdmonky wrote:
You seem to provide lots of blame and opinions of drug use but as I see you have no points of your own. Must mean your brain is only used for cobb-web housing. You and your people of the backwoods belief of Trump being truthful and providing transparency is probably as believable as you having a girlfriend with teeth and without full body hair. Take a walk out side your cave and spread your theory of conspiracy and corruption of the democrats and I am pretty sure you will be laughed at like a clown at a circus. Just remember fool when you try to defend a liar your word no longer can be relied upon so this is just another reminder to you that your word means shit to most americans so my word of advice to you is to go brush your teeth to get that shit out of your mouth. All I can think of you now comes from an old quote from that show "Sanford and Sons" YOU BIG DUMMY!! Good luck defending this dumb ass president.
You seem to provide lots of blame and opinions of ... (show quote)


Congratulations sir. You have just won the award for "Most stupid remark of the decade". Your future is obviously golden with remarks of this quality, your talent is immediately recognizable but obviously little sought after. Your advice is cleverly posed, no one could ever believe it was delivered by a mind so simple. And your humor is devastatingly funny. The hoots, whistles and accolades surely attest to a finely tuned sense of humor. I suggest you go to NYC and get on stage with the hopes of being able to show the current crowd of ineffective political critics "how to do it". That would certainly be humorous!! You are obviously an ignoramus of the 1st order.

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May 27, 2019 16:58:16   #
Airforceone
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
Congratulations sir. You have just won the award for "Most stupid remark of the decade". Your future is obviously golden with remarks of this quality, your talent is immediately recognizable but obviously little sought after. Your advice is cleverly posed, no one could ever believe it was delivered by a mind so simple. And your humor is devastatingly funny. The hoots, whistles and accolades surely attest to a finely tuned sense of humor. I suggest you go to NYC and get on stage with the hopes of being able to show the current crowd of ineffective political critics "how to do it". That would certainly be humorous!! You are obviously an ignoramus of the 1st order.
Congratulations sir. You have just won the award ... (show quote)


No I believe his remarks are right on target. You can’t justify spreading the lies of a pathological lying POS and you actually know he is lying every time he opens his mouth. That’s what makes people like you dangerous to our democracy.

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May 27, 2019 18:15:11   #
Jean Deaux
 
Airforceone wrote:
What the hell is wrong with you the financials released to date show in lost $1.7 billion in 8 years. The only thing missing now is where did that scam get the funds to bail him out. If we ever get hold of his tax returns it will show he was using a scam with Russian laundering scam. Same thing with Jared Kushner and the $845 million he received from the Saudis.

Damm do any of you people ever listened since 2005 there was no major bank that would do any kind of business with Trump.

You people ignore everything. His father left him $450 million and it didn’t take him long to loose that. How can he be successful and never paid a dime in taxes.
What the hell is wrong with you the financials rel... (show quote)



How do YOU know what he paid in taxes? Quick, run tell Nadler. Last I had heard he had no idea what Trump had paid and was about to have a nervous breakdown. As far as no banks doing business with him, he seems to have done fine for himself. I suspect one of the big reasons he is reluctant to release his tax returns are because of the myriad of pseudo tax experts anxious to jump on them and claim great prowess in pointing out thousands of filing errors his team of accountants have made, true or not.

Your entire game is to make accusations, false of not, i.e., throw it on the wall and see if it will stick. After a 98% failure rate, I'd think you would give up in disgust.

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May 27, 2019 18:21:07   #
Jean Deaux
 
Airforceone wrote:
No I believe his remarks are right on target. You can’t justify spreading the lies of a pathological lying POS and you actually know he is lying every time he opens his mouth. That’s what makes people like you dangerous to our democracy.


I know only that you are a chronic liar, completely untrustworthy due to your incredibly toxic hatred of our President, which is why I get such a delight in correcting the inaccuracies you continually blather. Your facade is failing you, better get a new ghillie suit.

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May 28, 2019 00:05:34   #
DogLover99
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
How do YOU know what he paid in taxes? Quick, run tell Nadler. Last I had heard he had no idea what Trump had paid and was about to have a nervous breakdown. As far as no banks doing business with him, he seems to have done fine for himself. I suspect one of the big reasons he is reluctant to release his tax returns are because of the myriad of pseudo tax experts anxious to jump on them and claim great prowess in pointing out thousands of filing errors his team of accountants have made, true or not.

Your entire game is to make accusations, false of not, i.e., throw it on the wall and see if it will stick. After a 98% failure rate, I'd think you would give up in disgust.
How do YOU know what he paid in taxes? Quick, run... (show quote)


Why don't you suggest EVERY PERSON running for public office must provide 10 years of tax returns? Lets see if the Dummycrats will agree with me.

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May 28, 2019 15:16:55   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
DogLover99 wrote:
Why don't you suggest EVERY PERSON running for public office must provide 10 years of tax returns? Lets see if the Dummycrats will agree with me.


I just want to know where the Clinton's $400 Milllions came from while being politicians.

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May 28, 2019 19:27:52   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
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"Gives a deeper meaning to hills comment” If I lose, we all go down”.. More to that comment but not worth reiterating here..."

Yep Linda;

The HildaBeast was referring to her accomplices in the Deep State.


You know it!!! And she went down for starters!!!

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May 29, 2019 11:15:52   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Airforceone wrote:
No I believe his remarks are right on target. You can’t justify spreading the lies of a pathological lying POS and you actually know he is lying every time he opens his mouth. That’s what makes people like you dangerous to our democracy.


This is what Trump saved America from.
Four more years of the Obama agenda.

Hillary the Scandals
http://youtu.be/BYKAzJcU-DA

Hillary Clinton: A Lying Compilation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI

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May 29, 2019 12:08:50   #
waltmoreno
 
Airforceone wrote:
No I believe his remarks are right on target. You can’t justify spreading the lies of a pathological lying POS and you actually know he is lying every time he opens his mouth. That’s what makes people like you dangerous to our democracy.


Airfarceone, Saul Alinsky would be proud of you. You embody exactly what he teaches in his book, Rules for Radicals, dedicated to Satan.
In keeping with his rules you accuse Trump of doing what you and your progressive, loony, lib friends do daily - lying. You’re the one who can’t make a single utterance w/o it being a blatant lie. You accuse Trump of being pathological about lying but it’s actually you and your ilk who are the pathological liars.
Even Satan would be proud of you!

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May 29, 2019 12:12:31   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Airfarceone, Saul Alinsky would be proud of you. You embody exactly what he teaches in his book, Rules for Radicals, dedicated to Satan.
In keeping with his rules you accuse Trump of doing what you and your progressive, loony, lib friends do daily - lying. You’re the one who can’t make a single utterance w/o it being a blatant lie. You accuse Trump of being pathological about lying but it’s actually you and your ilk who are the pathological liars.
Even Satan would be proud of you!


Satan will be sharing the heat with them in the not to distant future.

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May 29, 2019 17:42:54   #
promilitary
 
son of witless wrote:
Why do people support Trump ? Easy. PEOPLE do not like the scum who are against Trump. The more Trump is attacked, the more they support him.




Because of Hillary.

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May 29, 2019 18:09:27   #
JohnCorrespondent
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
But you have failed to recognize his bonafide accomplishments. He has restored our business acumen to the level we expect, reduced our unemployment to record levels, raised our stock market to new heights, reduced our taxes and myriads of ineffective regulations and restrictions, dumped NAFTA, GATT, TPP and other deleterious organizations. If he can only do the same with the UN, the world will be much improved. He is rebuilding our military, reducing welfare, trying to block the invasion from the South and build a wall. He has attempted to scuttle obama's unconstitutional "obamacare", appointed two superlative SC justices: The list goes on for over 100 improvements. And you are right! Americans are proud to be affiliated and led by a truly accomplished President and leader. I pray he continues to MAGA!!
But you have failed to recognize his bonafide acco... (show quote)


Some people consider those good accomplishments. I don't.

"business acumen": I see him bolstering a coal industry. To me that's not a good thing, because as a source of energy it pollutes a lot more than other sources of energy. I'd a lot rather see him support other kinds of less-polluting work for those coal workers. When the same president withdraws from the Paris Accord (which also has to do with pollution), I just see him as hopelessly ignorant or worse.

"business acumen" (part 2): I see him proclaiming a "deal of the century" and sending one of his sons to encourage other countries' business investments in Palestine, but leaving the political problems and original causes of problems to be addressed "later". I've nothing against promoting business in Palestine; however, I think it's the wrong emphasis for that area. There's a human rights tragedy going on there and he and his son appear to treat it as a business opportunity. It doesn't sit well with me. And I don't think either one of them is a good candidate for solving problems for Palestine nor more generally for the Middle East; they don't know much about it. What they can do productively is listen to people who do know about the Middle East, especially Palestinians, Iraqis, and Iranians (three of the groups the U.S. doesn't respect enough), but instead they rely too much on Israel (oppressors) and the House of Saud (who I believe are also oppressors) to give them their news and perspectives.

"reduced our taxes": I don't think so. What I've been reading is that his Administration merely shifted the default withholding to make it look like people are saving money soon, when really they'll just have to pay it back later. And the significant tax cuts are for corporations and wealthy people, not common folk. It's typical Republican Conservative "trickle-down" philosophy but the benefits don't "trickle down", the rich just take the extra money (essentially our money that Trump gives to them) and that's all.

"reduced" "myriad of ineffective regulations and restrictions": I recall that under the Trump Administration the EPA is being gutted. To me that's a bad thing. I see the Trump Administration making it easier for corporations to pollute and harder for women to make their own decisions about abortions. But corporations pollute too much. As for abortions, that's a difficult decision for a lot of people, but the people I trust least to do it responsibly are the Republican Conservatives and the churches. Churches have some wonderful responsible people but when they make rules for other people they (the churches) become more clumsy and ignorant.

"UN": I'm sure the UN sometimes fails and disappoints. But it's still the right idea, generally. An example of how the UN is the right idea is that it often shows us many dozens of countries on one side of an issue and only 2 or 3 countries (typically Israel, the U.S., and sometimes Britain) on the opposite side. This is an indicator that Israel and the U.S. may be on the wrong side of the issue (so we should seriously consider that possibility every time such a disparate vote happens in the UN). When the issue has anything to do with Palestine, then Israel and the U.S. really are on the wrong side of the issue. The votes in the UN serve to express world opinion and to illustrate that maybe we should examine the issue in a different way (not just the way Israel and the U.S. have typically been doing).

"rebuilding our military": The easiest thing to see about the military is that it has a huge budget, much larger than the military budgets of any other countries. It looks to me like the Trump Administration just tries to give it even more money. I think the money would be better spent elsewhere. We already had plenty of money being spent on the military even before Trump came along.

"trying to block the invasion from the South and building a wall": I don't see those as good things. I see him falsely labeling illegal immigrants from the south as "our worst violent criminals" but they're not. Our worst violent criminals are the ones doing the mass shootings, and they aren't illegal immigrants. Trump was just spouting off as usual without regard for the truth. And his carelessness in what he says leads to serious problems, in this case, for example, a spreading disdain for asylum seekers, a willful ignorance about them, and taking children from parents and losing them. It's tragic what happened to those children, and it's the Trump Administration's fault. As competency it's laughable but more importantly the results are tragic in human terms.

And in other cases, Trump's carelessness (or perhaps sometimes even pettiness and vengefulness) leads to other serious problems. Some of the things he tweets or says have (indirectly) encouraged people to make death threats (which have increased against the people Trump is against, such as A. Ocasio-Cortez).

What effect do you think Trump has on the phenomenon of mass shootings in the U.S.?

"obamacare" (which is sometimes more respectfully called the Affordable Care Act, or ACA): The way I look at the ACA is that it is an attempt to get us closer to universal single-payor health care, which is a lot better than the peculiarly U.S.-American method of giving enormous amounts of money to insurance corporations and letting them dictate voluminous small-print to the people who need health care.

I feel sure that the difference between your perspective and my perspective stems from something so deep that it might be called philosophy or theology. I cannot be sure what your core beliefs are, and it's hard to articulate these things because they don't get discussed much at the deep level. I'm guessing that you and most Trump supporters believe, for example, that powerful people usually got that way through virtue, so that we should support them and trust that they in turn will support the rest of us. And that most poor people naturally have poor characters and are undeserving. I think differently from that.

One of the things I believe, for example, is that the higher the public position, the more the public should scrutinize how the person in that position is wielding its power. This is one of the reasons why the Democratic House investigations into the Trump Administration are the right thing to do.

I also believe that the general population of this country have comparatively little power to hold corporations accountable, but they do have comparatively more power (and more explicit, systematically designed power, such as voting) to hold the government accountable. And this is why it is important for government to regulate corporations: it is how the people can, at least indirectly via their government, stop the corporations from just walking all over them, polluting the air they have to breathe, for example. This is why the EPA is the right idea. Trump and the people he typically appoints don't feel the same way as I do about this.

Maybe they think it's an "accomplishment" to get rid of restrictions and just trust corporations to do the right things for us. For me, it's not an accomplishment, rather it's a step backward away from accomplishment.

The natural resources of the planet rightfully belong to the people at large and in general. They are primarily for the common people to enjoy. The rights of corporations (or large landholders) to make profits off of them is a very distant second right in importance.

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May 29, 2019 19:29:12   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
JohnCorrespondent wrote:
Some people consider those good accomplishments. I don't.

"business acumen": I see him bolstering a coal industry. To me that's not a good thing, because as a source of energy it pollutes a lot more than other sources of energy. I'd a lot rather see him support other kinds of less-polluting work for those coal workers. When the same president withdraws from the Paris Accord (which also has to do with pollution), I just see him as hopelessly ignorant or worse.

"business acumen" (part 2): I see him proclaiming a "deal of the century" and sending one of his sons to encourage other countries' business investments in Palestine, but leaving the political problems and original causes of problems to be addressed "later". I've nothing against promoting business in Palestine; however, I think it's the wrong emphasis for that area. There's a human rights tragedy going on there and he and his son appear to treat it as a business opportunity. It doesn't sit well with me. And I don't think either one of them is a good candidate for solving problems for Palestine nor more generally for the Middle East; they don't know much about it. What they can do productively is listen to people who do know about the Middle East, especially Palestinians, Iraqis, and Iranians (three of the groups the U.S. doesn't respect enough), but instead they rely too much on Israel (oppressors) and the House of Saud (who I believe are also oppressors) to give them their news and perspectives.

"reduced our taxes": I don't think so. What I've been reading is that his Administration merely shifted the default withholding to make it look like people are saving money soon, when really they'll just have to pay it back later. And the significant tax cuts are for corporations and wealthy people, not common folk. It's typical Republican Conservative "trickle-down" philosophy but the benefits don't "trickle down", the rich just take the extra money (essentially our money that Trump gives to them) and that's all.

"reduced" "myriad of ineffective regulations and restrictions": I recall that under the Trump Administration the EPA is being gutted. To me that's a bad thing. I see the Trump Administration making it easier for corporations to pollute and harder for women to make their own decisions about abortions. But corporations pollute too much. As for abortions, that's a difficult decision for a lot of people, but the people I trust least to do it responsibly are the Republican Conservatives and the churches. Churches have some wonderful responsible people but when they make rules for other people they (the churches) become more clumsy and ignorant.

"UN": I'm sure the UN sometimes fails and disappoints. But it's still the right idea, generally. An example of how the UN is the right idea is that it often shows us many dozens of countries on one side of an issue and only 2 or 3 countries (typically Israel, the U.S., and sometimes Britain) on the opposite side. This is an indicator that Israel and the U.S. may be on the wrong side of the issue (so we should seriously consider that possibility every time such a disparate vote happens in the UN). When the issue has anything to do with Palestine, then Israel and the U.S. really are on the wrong side of the issue. The votes in the UN serve to express world opinion and to illustrate that maybe we should examine the issue in a different way (not just the way Israel and the U.S. have typically been doing).

"rebuilding our military": The easiest thing to see about the military is that it has a huge budget, much larger than the military budgets of any other countries. It looks to me like the Trump Administration just tries to give it even more money. I think the money would be better spent elsewhere. We already had plenty of money being spent on the military even before Trump came along.

"trying to block the invasion from the South and building a wall": I don't see those as good things. I see him falsely labeling illegal immigrants from the south as "our worst violent criminals" but they're not. Our worst violent criminals are the ones doing the mass shootings, and they aren't illegal immigrants. Trump was just spouting off as usual without regard for the truth. And his carelessness in what he says leads to serious problems, in this case, for example, a spreading disdain for asylum seekers, a willful ignorance about them, and taking children from parents and losing them. It's tragic what happened to those children, and it's the Trump Administration's fault. As competency it's laughable but more importantly the results are tragic in human terms.

And in other cases, Trump's carelessness (or perhaps sometimes even pettiness and vengefulness) leads to other serious problems. Some of the things he tweets or says have (indirectly) encouraged people to make death threats (which have increased against the people Trump is against, such as A. Ocasio-Cortez).

What effect do you think Trump has on the phenomenon of mass shootings in the U.S.?

"obamacare" (which is sometimes more respectfully called the Affordable Care Act, or ACA): The way I look at the ACA is that it is an attempt to get us closer to universal single-payor health care, which is a lot better than the peculiarly U.S.-American method of giving enormous amounts of money to insurance corporations and letting them dictate voluminous small-print to the people who need health care.

I feel sure that the difference between your perspective and my perspective stems from something so deep that it might be called philosophy or theology. I cannot be sure what your core beliefs are, and it's hard to articulate these things because they don't get discussed much at the deep level. I'm guessing that you and most Trump supporters believe, for example, that powerful people usually got that way through virtue, so that we should support them and trust that they in turn will support the rest of us. And that most poor people naturally have poor characters and are undeserving. I think differently from that.

One of the things I believe, for example, is that the higher the public position, the more the public should scrutinize how the person in that position is wielding its power. This is one of the reasons why the Democratic House investigations into the Trump Administration are the right thing to do.

I also believe that the general population of this country have comparatively little power to hold corporations accountable, but they do have comparatively more power (and more explicit, systematically designed power, such as voting) to hold the government accountable. And this is why it is important for government to regulate corporations: it is how the people can, at least indirectly via their government, stop the corporations from just walking all over them, polluting the air they have to breathe, for example. This is why the EPA is the right idea. Trump and the people he typically appoints don't feel the same way as I do about this.

Maybe they think it's an "accomplishment" to get rid of restrictions and just trust corporations to do the right things for us. For me, it's not an accomplishment, rather it's a step backward away from accomplishment.

The natural resources of the planet rightfully belong to the people at large and in general. They are primarily for the common people to enjoy. The rights of corporations (or large landholders) to make profits off of them is a very distant second right in importance.
Some people consider those good accomplishments. ... (show quote)


"The natural resources of the planet rightfully belong to the people at large and in general. They are primarily for the common people to enjoy. The rights of corporations (or large landholders) to make profits off of them is a very distant second right in importance." - JohnCorrespondent

Well that does it.
When you figure out that CO2 is not a pollutant, get back with us.
CO2 does not create Man Made "global Warming".

The natural resources of the planet do not belong to the Left.
Ever see what Communism does to the planet as well as the countries they rule.

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May 31, 2019 22:08:12   #
JohnCorrespondent
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"The natural resources of the planet rightfully belong to the people at large and in general. They are primarily for the common people to enjoy. The rights of corporations (or large landholders) to make profits off of them is a very distant second right in importance." - JohnCorrespondent

Well that does it.
When you figure out that CO2 is not a pollutant, get back with us.
CO2 does not create Man Made "global Warming".

The natural resources of the planet do not belong to the Left.
Ever see what Communism does to the planet as well as the countries they rule.
"The natural resources of the planet rightful... (show quote)


You did not respond directly to what I wrote.

Do you agree or disagree with this statement: "The natural resources of the planet rightfully belong to the people at large and in general." ?

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