eagleye13 Loc: Fl

No.
I need a book to respond to that. I am not in the mood.
BUT;
Who do you think should have control of all of the planets natural resources.
C*******ts?
Elitists?

Airforceone

Yes he did fine dealing with Putin and laundering Putin money. If the Accusations are false why is he hiding everything. all I want is the complete Muellar report released and due to the fact you can’t indict a sitting president, so Muellar could even accuse Trump. Congress has to review all the evidence. You have to impeach then indict, so it’s congresses responsibility to review the Muellar report summary and all the evidence used to compile that summary and determine if impeachable offenses were committed.

Muellar just laid out the evidence and he found at least 10 areas where Trump himself tried to obstruct. So let’s look at all the evidence and let Congress do it’s job.

The problem with Trump supporters they refuse to read the report and they listen to Fox News and Trump. The Muellar report by no means ever 100% exonerated Trump.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

'Why do people support Trump'

Because of the alternatives given by the Democrats.


So now we go to the next stage;
The liberal Ducks are lined up, plucked and ready to hang. LOLOL
Peking Duck anyone?
The deep state's dirty secret
https://youtu.be/FKq-AxZS8UA
Attorney General Barr says he has not gotten 'satisfactory' answers about Russia probe origins.
Act 1 is over.
Act 2 now begins!
Stay tuned

JohnCorrespondent

I'd have the entire population permanently owning the planet's natural resources, and there would be landholders with tenure dependent on payment of a tax. Usually that's called a "land tax" but my intention is that it's a tax on occupying or using up or spoiling a natural resource.

We already have landholders and they pay land taxes. I would greatly increase the land tax while greatly decreasing all other kinds of taxes (preferably to zero).

So, for example, if you labor (e.g., invent a gadget or repair barrels or shovel snow or build a building or raise a crop or improve the land), all of what you did with your own labor rightfully belongs to you and should not be taxed; but if you occupy land and prohibit others from using it, then you would reimburse the whole population of people for that value by paying the tax on the site value of the raw land.

So, back to your specific question, the whole population should control of all of the planet's natural resources, but as a practical matter there has to be some administrative system, such as land tenure in which the landholder reimburses the population for the natural resource he or she is using up, restricting from their use, or spoiling.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"We already have landholders and they pay land taxes. I would greatly increase the land tax while greatly decreasing all other kinds of taxes (preferably to zero)....
So, back to your specific question, the whole population should control of all of the planet's natural resources, but as a practical matter there has to be some administrative system, such as land tenure in which the landholder reimburses the population for the natural resource he or she is using up, restricting from their use, or spoiling." - JohnCorrespondent
John;
Have you not figured this out.
There will always be those that want it all, and arrange to get most of it.
Especially under socialist/c*******t domination.
It is people that don't figure this out, that gives those people power.

son of witless

Sounds like Socialism and Socialism means no private property rights and that means tyranny.

JohnCorrespondent

I agree that there will always be those who want it all. Whether they can arrange to get most of it depends in part on what kind of system they live in.

And some of the people who manage to get "most of it" are freeloading too much. Some other people who manage to get "most of it" are more productive and may be giving back to society in some way.

When you say "Especially under socialist/c*******t domination" you are not solving the problem. All systems: capitalist, socialist, c*******t, and probably wh**ever other systems there are, have the problem of some people taking much more than their rightful share and freeloading too much.

In the U.S., that problem occurs in more than one way, and the worst of it is some of the rich people and corporate welfare. And, it involves very large wealth and large consequences to many people.

There are solutions to such problems. To just say "There will always be those that want it all, and arrange to get most of it" is like throwing up your hands and giving up on making a better system.

As a person lucky enough to have been born into the middle class in the U.S., I feel that the U.S. has evolved into a better system than what existed in past centuries in Europe. But it still has a ways to go.

A radical restructuring of the tax system, as I have suggested, is intended to make a more fair system. Earnings from labor should either not be taxed at all or be taxed a lot less than what they are now. Taking large amounts of natural resources should be taxed a lot. One way to reason out what is a fair system is to begin with the concept of ownership, who owns what (or who should own what), and why that makes sense.

Whether the improvements happen fast or slow, we need to aim toward improvements, and not just give up.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"Earnings from labor should either not be taxed at all or be taxed a lot less than what they are now."
Labor is not taxable under the Constitution, unless it is equally apportioned.
The graduated income tax is a c*******tic/socialistic tax.
A subject unto itself. I have studied it since the 60's.
The taxers/elitists found a way around the Constitution.
Legalese mumbo jumbo.
The income tax does not apply to 98 % of the population, but Joe Q Sixpack is tricked into signing "under penalty of perjury" that he owes it.

The best book on that is Cracking the Code by Hendrickson

BTW; The IRS/Department of Treasury is no more then the Accounts Receivable Department of The Federal Reserve private corporation.

JohnCorrespondent

I agree that the income tax is not the legal obligation that most people think it is. (Not that I really know, but I had read it somewhere.) I do continue to pay it anyway.

I agree that "taxers" are a kind of "elite". However, in this and an earlier reply you have used the term "elitist" in a way that leaves me guessing at who _you_ mean and why you call them "elitist".

Well anyway taxation (or something equivalent) is necessary but it should be a much different kind of taxation system than the one we have now. And it is not just a practical matter of how to get money; there should be some principles involved, such as, for example, "fairness" and/or "rights" and/or ethics. Or an examination of the concept of "ownership" and what's right or wrong about it.

Airforceone

Have you ever read a piece of legislation. I would like to see you read Obama’s comprehensive immigration reform bill that got blocked by Boehner and was pasted on bi-Partisan v**e in the Senate then read the legislation proposed by Republicans that was passed in Jan. when Trump shutdown the government all they did was change the name and that legislation could have been passed 7 years ago.

Have you ever read the American jobs act, or the comprehensive tax reform bill, and the Bring the jobs back to America Act. Proposed by Obama. What bothers me is you read a lot of articles and the only reason is because it falls along your ideology and that’s what you believe. (PERCEPTION IS NOT REALITY) (ACTUAL LEGISLATION IS REALITY) But you refuse to read exactly what is being proposed before congress.

Then when MSM reports on actual legislation it’s called f**e news.

But there is no changing a Trump supporter I still have not found a Trump supporter on OPP that actually read the Muellar report, because if they had there is no way that report 100% exonerated Trump. So for Trump to spin the report he starts an investigation to investigate the investigators.

A few months back I took actual legislation proposed by Republicans used there exact words and I was attacked as a liar.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

AF1
I have fought BOTH parties for over 40 years.
Both are bought off by the Money powers.
Trump is the first president in decades to do something about it.
Trump was NOT the choice of the RNC.
The Dems are still in the pockets of the Money powers.

So I will attempt to get some more people to really think this out:


September 23, 2018
Party politics - “The Fix” was always in;
Until Trump and American v**ers overcame "The Fix"
Were we going to be served more of the same from these "two" parties?
The MSM was touting Bush III and Clinton II in the beginning of the primary season.
(I wrote "The Fix" in 1992; GHW Bush was running against Bill Clinton. The 2012, 2015, and 2018 updates are in brackets)

Party politics: “The Fix” (was) in:
The majority of Americans are disgusted with our government “representatives”, and what is happening in America. The frustration has been spreading, this time, Americans did not fall for “The Fix”. It is obvious something had to change; but what? To solve any problem, “the root cause” must be discovered, understood, exposed, and eliminated.
In the realm of politics; exposing “the root cause” of America’s decline on any significant scale, has been unattainable. Almost all major media is directed and controlled by “the root cause” which sets “The Fix”.
Decade after decade, and e******n after e******n; too many v**ers have fallen for “The Fix”. They either didn’t v**e out of disgust; or they v**ed for “the lesser of two evils”. This syndrome has put America where it is today, and evil continues to prosper. Give thought to “The Fix”. The Democratic Party promotes a variety of liberals/socialists, (“progressives”), and the Republican Party promotes a variety of “Conservatives” (old line conservatives, and covert global socialists/NeoCONS; The Bushes and their “New World Order” are two examples). Under both parties, our Constitutional Republic (not democracy), has been decimated. The Constitution and the principles that made our country the most prosperous, and the envy of the world, has been replaced with a semi-covert agenda for global socialism. Few Americans understand the purpose of the g*******t agenda; but most politicians believe in it, or have sold out to it. That is why their oaths to uphold and defend the Constitution have been meaningless to most of them.
“The Root Cause” of our country’s decline; is the privately owned Federal Reserve System (banks), and their control of our money and economy. The perpetrators are the Internationalist Banking Cabal, whose policy it is, to create a global socialist “New World Order”.
With their vast wealth, media control (ownership), control of (“public”) education, and control of the party apparatus; they have been able to ensure that both parties nominated candidates that would carry out their agenda. With this control, the people fell for “The Fix”; out of disgust they either didn’t v**e, or they felt compelled to v**e for “the lesser of two evils”, – banker backed “A” or “B”. all other parties were ignored.
The v**ers are told, “no one else can win”, “don’t Waste your v**e”; now the s**m was to convince the v**ers “who was the most electable against (Hillary)”. It had to be someone the Bankers knew they could control, to ensure that their agenda was carried out.). That agenda is a One World totalitarian socialist dictatorship, administered by their front men. I will as concisely as possible back this statement up with their own writings, and try to stir the readers to give this letter thought and thus, renounce the NWO agenda.
Both parties executive cabinets (national security advisors) are filled with members of “the Council on Foreign Relations” (CFR) and “the Trilateral Commission” (TC)). John D. Rockefeller formed the (CFR) in early 1920’s, and David Rockefeller formed the TC in 1973. David Rockefeller’s chief foreign policy advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, put the organization together for his boss. Jimmy Carter was made a TC founding member. After Carter was elected president, he filled his cabinet with CFR/TC members, with Zbigniew Brzezinski as his chief foreign policy “advisor”. Reagan’s cabinet began with fewer (CFR) members, but many non (CFR) members were drummed out of office. (with the help of the liberal MSM). When Reagan finished office, most were again CFR/TC members. Bush senior is a Trilateralist and 9 of 11 of his national security council are (CFR) members. Bill Clinton is a CFR/TC member, and attended the Bilderberg meeting the year before. P. Volker, A. Greenspan, H. Kissinger, Robert Strange McNamara are but a few of the high officials that belong to the CFR, TC, and the Bilderberg Group.
To show where these people and organizations are coming from I quote: TC report #23, 1982 – “… actions at the multinational level will be needed if the process of international relocation of industries is to be accelerated in an organized fashion …” (a policy to deindustrialize America) Now; please really reflect on what has happened under both parties CFR/TC administrations and Congresses. (Until Trump was elected)
Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote in his book, “between two ages” p. 72 (1970) - “Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external active man over the inner passive man, and a victory of reason over belief.” This man, a Democrat and Henry Kissinger, a Republican; both employed by David Rockefeller, and both CFR/TC /Bilderberger members. Both are one world g*******ts (pro Marxist/F*****t, per their own writings). Think about it! Can you see how “The Fix” is ensuring a one world dictatorship, to be ruled by these parasitic elitists?
(Zbigniew Brzezinski (ZB) ( http://www.wanttoknow.info/brzezinskigrandchessboard.shtml )

In “Foreign Affairs ”(a CFR publication), April 1974, Richard Gardener, Ambassador to Italy, writes “an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal attack.”

******* BELOW ARE A FEW QUOTED WARNINGS ON BANKING *******

“If Congress has the right to issue paper money, it was given to them to be used by themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations.” - President Andrew Jackson (he revoked the U. S. Banking Charter in 1832. (A double misfire at point blank range of an attempted assassination saved his life.)
The Federal Reserve (privately owned banks) is one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen.” - Senator Louis T. McFadden, 1934, chairman of the U. S. Banking and Currency Commission for over 10 years. There were several attempts on his life before his suspicious death.

“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs.” - President Thomas Jefferson
“All the perplexities, confusion, and distress in America arise, not from defects in the Constitution or confederation, not from a lack of honor or virtue, so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation.” - President John Adams
This ignorance still exists by design. A magnificent cover up, (made possible by both political parties, the LSM, and “public education”. Nothing had changed except the sophistication and advancement of their one world agenda; made possible with the increased corruption, ignorance, and/or cowardice of our “leaders” (politicians). The internationalist bankers and their comrades, promote and fund any government that does their bidding; be it “democracy”, socialistic, c*******tic, dictatorship, or monarchy. For example: Bush senior, just pushed for, and Congress passed extension of “most favored nation status” to C*******t China.
The above forms of government promote the separation of a worker from his earnings through taxation and/or extortion. The Constitution would not have allowed this, but it has been covertly circumvented. Understand that the banker’s (and politician’s) trusts and foundations are exempt from the income and inheritance taxes that they impose on American citizens. Also remember that the abolition of private property, a heavy progressive income tax, and abolition of inheritance, are the first three planks of the C*******t Manifesto.
There is not enough space to cover the Bankster’s (and politician’s) political subterfuge with the interconnections of the Bilderberg Group, CFR, TC, CIA, IRS , and tax exempt foundations. Nor their use of their world government apparatus; United Nations, International Monetary Fund, World Bank, NAFTA, WTO, GATA and etc. All used to establish and fund their NEW WORLD ORDER.
(The taxpayers have been held liable for TRILLIONS of “dollars” of the International Banking Cabal’s bad debts. European banks were bailed out via IMF US funding,under Bush Jr. The exact numbers , and too exactly who, is hidden from Congress. Another reason the Fed must be audited and fired)

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Here is the bottom line;
The Federal Reserve corporation is a private corporation owned by the banking families, that put it together and got it passed in CONgress on December 23, 1913, when a lot of Congressman had already left DC to be home for Christmas.

Woodrow, the banker's pimp, signed it into law.
Our government should be creating US notes instead of Federal Reserve notes borrowed with interest attached.
JFK had US noted printed, and was promptly assassinated.

Those parasites are still running their s**m.

Radiance3

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AF1, your dumb Obama for 8 years had left China took advantage of the greatest trade imbalance with the United States. Obama could not understand the adverse effects of the trade imbalance with China.

China had taken advantage of the US via low-price low-quality products dumped to our soil. And the LIBS and DEMOCRATS thought oh, that was fantastic cheap price. On the contrary China is laughing at the US for being so dumb to realize that China has been adversely taking advantage of us.

HOW? Every year under Obama, China created average of $600 billion trade deficits wih the US. Every year that trade deficit was added to our National Debts. He started with a National Debts of $9 trillion. After 8 years the National Debts became $ 19,997 trillion. He added $10.7 trillion more than double the National Debts of all prior presidents combined.

The rapid growth of the National Debts was due to the huge yearly imbalance of trade with China. And the LIBS and DEMS are so stupid to understand that.

Now president Trump is so smart about business, and he took bold steps to correct that imbalance, the only way possible since DEMS in Congress are always blocking him.
DEMS and some rhinos are hating him for doing that.
Tariffs are the only possible solution considering that the Democrat Congress are always blocking him on all the successful jobs he has done for our country.

Statistics for US in 2017.
S19.39 trillion Gross Domestic Product (2017)
US GDP per Capita. $53,019 at 3.5 GDP=estimate
US Population in 2017 =326 million
$19,390,000,000,000.
325,700,000.
US GDP per Capita $59,478.53 =actual
Difference due to rounding of figures.
US National Debts in 2017 was $19.9 trillion.
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China's Statistics in 2017
$12,24 trillion Gross Domestic Product for China
Population of 1.386 billion
China's GDP per Capita $8,827=estimate
$12,240,000,000,000
1,386,000,000
China's GDP per Capita =$8,831=actual.
A slight variance due to rounding of figures.

Based on Statistics, we must realize that US has the highest standard of living compared to China. But still US population complains so much. But US has also the highest national Debts of $19,9 trillion.

The GAP between the rich and poor is so much. US has the most number of multi-billionaires.
The World Government was rumored to be prepared to take over later for One World Government.

How soon, who knows.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

It is the NWO perps/pimps that are putting China ahead of the US.

The Red Chinese were put into their position by design.
The world will pay big time misery for that, until this age comes to a close.

Radiance3

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So they could have 1.3 billion people to ens***e and worship Lucifer.
Almost all elites in the US are members of that.

No Donald Trump's name there yet.