Trump Guilty Of Felony If He Wasn't President, According To 450 Federal Prosecutors
Moldy, where were this prosecutors when Comey said that no prosecutor in this country would try Clinton, in her e-mail case. Sure sounds kinds one sided to me.!! How about you, Moldy?????????
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1969skoops wrote:
Moldy, where were this prosecutors when Comey said that no prosecutor in this country would try Clinton, in her e-mail case. Sure sounds kinds one sided to me.!! How about you, Moldy?????????
Well ya see moldy is the banner holder of the Democrat double standard party we the Demo's can do anything illegal and or immoral but all you Conservatives Republicans are not allowed to do anything that we the Demo's say you can't do !
In other words moldy and his Demo pals hypocrites !
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4430 wrote:
Well ya see moldy is the banner holder of the Democrat double standard party we the Demo's can do anything illegal and or immoral but all you Conservatives Republicans are not allowed to do anything that we the Demo's say you can't do !
In other words moldy and his Demo pals hypocrites !
Everyone knows, if it weren't for 'double standards'.. liberals would have no standards at all... Reagan also summed them up perfectly (many years ago) when he said... “It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”
moldyoldy wrote:
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-guilty-felony-if-he-wasnt-president-according-450-federal-prosecutors-2790238
If he weren’t a sitting president, Donald Trump will have been found guilty of obstruction of justice based on evidence laid out in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe, said a bipartisan letter signed by more than 450 former federal prosecutors and posted online Monday.
"Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice," said the lawyers in their letter posted on Medium.
The letter was signed by officials from various backgrounds, and included former lawyers and other top officials from the Democratic and Republican parties. Signatories to the letter included officials whose government service included every administration since President Dwight Eisenhower.
The redacted Mueller report released by the Department of Justice (DoJ) two weeks ago showed Mueller investigating if Trump committed obstruction. It laid out specific and unsuccessful attempts by Trump to obstruct Mueller himself. Despite the evidence he laid out, Mueller concluded he couldn’t affirm "no criminal conduct occurred.”
Attorney general William Barr said after the conclusion of Mueller's investigation that both he and former deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein determined Mueller's evidence was "not sufficient" to support prosecuting Trump for obstruction.
In the letter, former federal prosecutors said the Mueller report "describes multiple efforts by the president to curtail the scope of the Special Counsel’s investigation." They pointed to when Trump pressured then-attorney general Jeff Sessions to reverse his decision to recuse himself from overseeing Mueller's investigation.
The letter also pointed out Trump directed his former chief of staff Reince Priebus to fire Sessions, which Priebus refused.
"In our system, every accused person is presumed innocent and it is always the government’s burden to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt," wrote the former prosecutors. "But, to look at these facts and say that a prosecutor could not probably sustain a conviction for obstruction of justice -- the standard set out in Principles of Federal Prosecution -- runs counter to logic and our experience."
"We believe strongly that, but for the OLC (Office of Legal Counsel) memo, the overwhelming weight of professional judgment would come down in favor of prosecution for the conduct outlined in the Mueller Report," concludes the letter.
In his report, Mueller revealed 10 situations in which he investigated Trump's actions and motivations. These included the firing of former FBI Director James Comey and Trump's pressure on then-White House counsel Don McGahn to remove Mueller from his job.
Mueller found Trump had taken obstructive acts that could have hurt ongoing investigations. He also found Trump intended to disrupt the investigators at times because of his own personal motivations, like silencing questions about his 2016 presidential election victory.
Instead of deciding whether to prosecute Trump, Mueller said he wouldn’t exonerate Trump and pointed to the DoJ guidance a President can’t be indicted while in office as a reason for not reaching a conclusion.
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it would be interesting to know how many of the prosecutors are affiliated with the left
1969skoops wrote:
Moldy, where were this prosecutors when Comey said that no prosecutor in this country would try Clinton, in her e-mail case. Sure sounds kinds one sided to me.!! How about you, Moldy?????????
That is the difference between obvious crime (trump) and wishful crime (Clinton)
badbobby wrote:
it would be interesting to know how many of the prosecutors are affiliated with the left
Both sides, and up to 650 now.
badbobby wrote:
fact or opinion?
There are some from both sides but how many of each no one knows.
moldyoldy wrote:
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-guilty-felony-if-he-wasnt-president-according-450-federal-prosecutors-2790238
If he weren’t a sitting president, Donald Trump will have been found guilty of obstruction of justice based on evidence laid out in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe, said a bipartisan letter signed by more than 450 former federal prosecutors and posted online Monday.
"Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice," said the lawyers in their letter posted on Medium.
The letter was signed by officials from various backgrounds, and included former lawyers and other top officials from the Democratic and Republican parties. Signatories to the letter included officials whose government service included every administration since President Dwight Eisenhower.
The redacted Mueller report released by the Department of Justice (DoJ) two weeks ago showed Mueller investigating if Trump committed obstruction. It laid out specific and unsuccessful attempts by Trump to obstruct Mueller himself. Despite the evidence he laid out, Mueller concluded he couldn’t affirm "no criminal conduct occurred.”
Attorney general William Barr said after the conclusion of Mueller's investigation that both he and former deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein determined Mueller's evidence was "not sufficient" to support prosecuting Trump for obstruction.
In the letter, former federal prosecutors said the Mueller report "describes multiple efforts by the president to curtail the scope of the Special Counsel’s investigation." They pointed to when Trump pressured then-attorney general Jeff Sessions to reverse his decision to recuse himself from overseeing Mueller's investigation.
The letter also pointed out Trump directed his former chief of staff Reince Priebus to fire Sessions, which Priebus refused.
"In our system, every accused person is presumed innocent and it is always the government’s burden to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt," wrote the former prosecutors. "But, to look at these facts and say that a prosecutor could not probably sustain a conviction for obstruction of justice -- the standard set out in Principles of Federal Prosecution -- runs counter to logic and our experience."
"We believe strongly that, but for the OLC (Office of Legal Counsel) memo, the overwhelming weight of professional judgment would come down in favor of prosecution for the conduct outlined in the Mueller Report," concludes the letter.
In his report, Mueller revealed 10 situations in which he investigated Trump's actions and motivations. These included the firing of former FBI Director James Comey and Trump's pressure on then-White House counsel Don McGahn to remove Mueller from his job.
Mueller found Trump had taken obstructive acts that could have hurt ongoing investigations. He also found Trump intended to disrupt the investigators at times because of his own personal motivations, like silencing questions about his 2016 presidential election victory.
Instead of deciding whether to prosecute Trump, Mueller said he wouldn’t exonerate Trump and pointed to the DoJ guidance a President can’t be indicted while in office as a reason for not reaching a conclusion.
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Here's the flip side; he can be charged and arrested immediately upon leaving office...............and he cannot pardon himself. Huh, maybe that's why Pelosi doesn't think he'll leave the white house willingly. On the bright side...................Trump will spend more time at the White House after leaving office, than he did while he was in office.
moldyoldy wrote:
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-guilty-felony-if-he-wasnt-president-according-450-federal-prosecutors-2790238
If he weren’t a sitting president, Donald Trump will have been found guilty of obstruction of justice based on evidence laid out in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe, said a bipartisan letter signed by more than 450 former federal prosecutors and posted online Monday.
"Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice," said the lawyers in their letter posted on Medium.
The letter was signed by officials from various backgrounds, and included former lawyers and other top officials from the Democratic and Republican parties. Signatories to the letter included officials whose government service included every administration since President Dwight Eisenhower.
The redacted Mueller report released by the Department of Justice (DoJ) two weeks ago showed Mueller investigating if Trump committed obstruction. It laid out specific and unsuccessful attempts by Trump to obstruct Mueller himself. Despite the evidence he laid out, Mueller concluded he couldn’t affirm "no criminal conduct occurred.”
Attorney general William Barr said after the conclusion of Mueller's investigation that both he and former deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein determined Mueller's evidence was "not sufficient" to support prosecuting Trump for obstruction.
In the letter, former federal prosecutors said the Mueller report "describes multiple efforts by the president to curtail the scope of the Special Counsel’s investigation." They pointed to when Trump pressured then-attorney general Jeff Sessions to reverse his decision to recuse himself from overseeing Mueller's investigation.
The letter also pointed out Trump directed his former chief of staff Reince Priebus to fire Sessions, which Priebus refused.
"In our system, every accused person is presumed innocent and it is always the government’s burden to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt," wrote the former prosecutors. "But, to look at these facts and say that a prosecutor could not probably sustain a conviction for obstruction of justice -- the standard set out in Principles of Federal Prosecution -- runs counter to logic and our experience."
"We believe strongly that, but for the OLC (Office of Legal Counsel) memo, the overwhelming weight of professional judgment would come down in favor of prosecution for the conduct outlined in the Mueller Report," concludes the letter.
In his report, Mueller revealed 10 situations in which he investigated Trump's actions and motivations. These included the firing of former FBI Director James Comey and Trump's pressure on then-White House counsel Don McGahn to remove Mueller from his job.
Mueller found Trump had taken obstructive acts that could have hurt ongoing investigations. He also found Trump intended to disrupt the investigators at times because of his own personal motivations, like silencing questions about his 2016 presidential election victory.
Instead of deciding whether to prosecute Trump, Mueller said he wouldn’t exonerate Trump and pointed to the DoJ guidance a President can’t be indicted while in office as a reason for not reaching a conclusion.
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450 UNNAMED FORMER prosecutors have no legal standing in this issue, their opinions are meaningless. If they are so intimate with federal laws regarding a Special Counsel, they would know that a SC has one job and only one job. To investigate an alleged crime and return a decision, based on evidence, to either refer the case to a grand jury or federal court for prosecution, or to decline from doing so if the evidence is insufficient.
IOW, for the braindead and mentally deficient lib progs who don't give a tinker's damn about the rule of law or our system of justice, a Special Counsel investigator cannot determine guilt or innocence, nor can he draw any conclusions regarding guilt or innocence.
Mueller's investigation is over, Kaput, fini, and regardless of leftist pipe dreams, wishful thinking, and sky screaming rhetoric, Mueller's investigation produced no sufficient evidence to issue indictments for any crime, and no further indictments are forthcoming.
lpnmajor wrote:
Here's the flip side; he can be charged and arrested immediately upon leaving office...............and he cannot pardon himself. Huh, maybe that's why Pelosi doesn't think he'll leave the white house willingly. On the bright side...................Trump will spend more time at the White House after leaving office, than he did while he was in office.
Charged with what? Mueller's two year investigation did not find sufficient evidence to prosecute criminal conduct.
TommyRadd wrote:
Haha! That’s like saying, I would be a thief for taking things out of my house if I wasn’t the owner of my house.”
Why, because Trump, as duly elected President, has the Constitutional authority to fire anyone in the justice department without reason. Take that fact away, and what evidence are you left with?
When will you leftists get a little integrity?
Maybe because he bragged about his reason for firing Comey, twice.
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