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May 7, 2019 09:14:56   #
moldyoldy
 
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-guilty-felony-if-he-wasnt-president-according-450-federal-prosecutors-2790238


If he weren’t a sitting president, Donald Trump will have been found guilty of obstruction of justice based on evidence laid out in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe, said a bipartisan letter signed by more than 450 former federal prosecutors and posted online Monday.
"Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice," said the lawyers in their letter posted on Medium.
The letter was signed by officials from various backgrounds, and included former lawyers and other top officials from the Democratic and Republican parties. Signatories to the letter included officials whose government service included every administration since President Dwight Eisenhower.


The redacted Mueller report released by the Department of Justice (DoJ) two weeks ago showed Mueller investigating if Trump committed obstruction. It laid out specific and unsuccessful attempts by Trump to obstruct Mueller himself. Despite the evidence he laid out, Mueller concluded he couldn’t affirm "no criminal conduct occurred.”


Attorney general William Barr said after the conclusion of Mueller's investigation that both he and former deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein determined Mueller's evidence was "not sufficient" to support prosecuting Trump for obstruction.
In the letter, former federal prosecutors said the Mueller report "describes multiple efforts by the president to curtail the scope of the Special Counsel’s investigation." They pointed to when Trump pressured then-attorney general Jeff Sessions to reverse his decision to recuse himself from overseeing Mueller's investigation.

The letter also pointed out Trump directed his former chief of staff Reince Priebus to fire Sessions, which Priebus refused.
"In our system, every accused person is presumed innocent and it is always the government’s burden to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt," wrote the former prosecutors. "But, to look at these facts and say that a prosecutor could not probably sustain a conviction for obstruction of justice -- the standard set out in Principles of Federal Prosecution -- runs counter to logic and our experience."
"We believe strongly that, but for the OLC (Office of Legal Counsel) memo, the overwhelming weight of professional judgment would come down in favor of prosecution for the conduct outlined in the Mueller Report," concludes the letter.
In his report, Mueller revealed 10 situations in which he investigated Trump's actions and motivations. These included the firing of former FBI Director James Comey and Trump's pressure on then-White House counsel Don McGahn to remove Mueller from his job.

Mueller found Trump had taken obstructive acts that could have hurt ongoing investigations. He also found Trump intended to disrupt the investigators at times because of his own personal motivations, like silencing questions about his 2016 p**********l e******n victory.
Instead of deciding whether to prosecute Trump, Mueller said he wouldn’t exonerate Trump and pointed to the DoJ guidance a President can’t be indicted while in office as a reason for not reaching a conclusion.

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May 7, 2019 09:19:20   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-guilty-felony-if-he-wasnt-president-according-450-federal-prosecutors-2790238


If he weren’t a sitting president, Donald Trump will have been found guilty of obstruction of justice based on evidence laid out in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe, said a bipartisan letter signed by more than 450 former federal prosecutors and posted online Monday.
"Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice," said the lawyers in their letter posted on Medium.
The letter was signed by officials from various backgrounds, and included former lawyers and other top officials from the Democratic and Republican parties. Signatories to the letter included officials whose government service included every administration since President Dwight Eisenhower.


The redacted Mueller report released by the Department of Justice (DoJ) two weeks ago showed Mueller investigating if Trump committed obstruction. It laid out specific and unsuccessful attempts by Trump to obstruct Mueller himself. Despite the evidence he laid out, Mueller concluded he couldn’t affirm "no criminal conduct occurred.”


Attorney general William Barr said after the conclusion of Mueller's investigation that both he and former deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein determined Mueller's evidence was "not sufficient" to support prosecuting Trump for obstruction.
In the letter, former federal prosecutors said the Mueller report "describes multiple efforts by the president to curtail the scope of the Special Counsel’s investigation." They pointed to when Trump pressured then-attorney general Jeff Sessions to reverse his decision to recuse himself from overseeing Mueller's investigation.

The letter also pointed out Trump directed his former chief of staff Reince Priebus to fire Sessions, which Priebus refused.
"In our system, every accused person is presumed innocent and it is always the government’s burden to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt," wrote the former prosecutors. "But, to look at these facts and say that a prosecutor could not probably sustain a conviction for obstruction of justice -- the standard set out in Principles of Federal Prosecution -- runs counter to logic and our experience."
"We believe strongly that, but for the OLC (Office of Legal Counsel) memo, the overwhelming weight of professional judgment would come down in favor of prosecution for the conduct outlined in the Mueller Report," concludes the letter.
In his report, Mueller revealed 10 situations in which he investigated Trump's actions and motivations. These included the firing of former FBI Director James Comey and Trump's pressure on then-White House counsel Don McGahn to remove Mueller from his job.

Mueller found Trump had taken obstructive acts that could have hurt ongoing investigations. He also found Trump intended to disrupt the investigators at times because of his own personal motivations, like silencing questions about his 2016 p**********l e******n victory.
Instead of deciding whether to prosecute Trump, Mueller said he wouldn’t exonerate Trump and pointed to the DoJ guidance a President can’t be indicted while in office as a reason for not reaching a conclusion.
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-guilty-felony-if-he-... (show quote)



Your Muslim boy Brennan said "the President committed treason" That liar had to eat his words too.

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May 7, 2019 09:20:28   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
He is the president so suck it! Ovomit should never have been and his atrocities will b known! The greatest h**x on the American people, the Manchuria candidate and Trojan horse!

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May 7, 2019 09:21:20   #
Liberty Tree
 
moldyoldy wrote:
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-guilty-felony-if-he-wasnt-president-according-450-federal-prosecutors-2790238


If he weren’t a sitting president, Donald Trump will have been found guilty of obstruction of justice based on evidence laid out in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe, said a bipartisan letter signed by more than 450 former federal prosecutors and posted online Monday.
"Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice," said the lawyers in their letter posted on Medium.
The letter was signed by officials from various backgrounds, and included former lawyers and other top officials from the Democratic and Republican parties. Signatories to the letter included officials whose government service included every administration since President Dwight Eisenhower.


The redacted Mueller report released by the Department of Justice (DoJ) two weeks ago showed Mueller investigating if Trump committed obstruction. It laid out specific and unsuccessful attempts by Trump to obstruct Mueller himself. Despite the evidence he laid out, Mueller concluded he couldn’t affirm "no criminal conduct occurred.”


Attorney general William Barr said after the conclusion of Mueller's investigation that both he and former deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein determined Mueller's evidence was "not sufficient" to support prosecuting Trump for obstruction.
In the letter, former federal prosecutors said the Mueller report "describes multiple efforts by the president to curtail the scope of the Special Counsel’s investigation." They pointed to when Trump pressured then-attorney general Jeff Sessions to reverse his decision to recuse himself from overseeing Mueller's investigation.

The letter also pointed out Trump directed his former chief of staff Reince Priebus to fire Sessions, which Priebus refused.
"In our system, every accused person is presumed innocent and it is always the government’s burden to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt," wrote the former prosecutors. "But, to look at these facts and say that a prosecutor could not probably sustain a conviction for obstruction of justice -- the standard set out in Principles of Federal Prosecution -- runs counter to logic and our experience."
"We believe strongly that, but for the OLC (Office of Legal Counsel) memo, the overwhelming weight of professional judgment would come down in favor of prosecution for the conduct outlined in the Mueller Report," concludes the letter.
In his report, Mueller revealed 10 situations in which he investigated Trump's actions and motivations. These included the firing of former FBI Director James Comey and Trump's pressure on then-White House counsel Don McGahn to remove Mueller from his job.

Mueller found Trump had taken obstructive acts that could have hurt ongoing investigations. He also found Trump intended to disrupt the investigators at times because of his own personal motivations, like silencing questions about his 2016 p**********l e******n victory.
Instead of deciding whether to prosecute Trump, Mueller said he wouldn’t exonerate Trump and pointed to the DoJ guidance a President can’t be indicted while in office as a reason for not reaching a conclusion.
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-guilty-felony-if-he-... (show quote)


One could search out 500 who do not agree with the Democrat and RINO former prosecutors.

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May 7, 2019 09:26:11   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
moldyoldy wrote:
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-guilty-felony-if-he-wasnt-president-according-450-federal-prosecutors-2790238


If he weren’t a sitting president, Donald Trump will have been found guilty of obstruction of justice based on evidence laid out in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe, said a bipartisan letter signed by more than 450 former federal prosecutors and posted online Monday.
"Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice," said the lawyers in their letter posted on Medium.
The letter was signed by officials from various backgrounds, and included former lawyers and other top officials from the Democratic and Republican parties. Signatories to the letter included officials whose government service included every administration since President Dwight Eisenhower.


The redacted Mueller report released by the Department of Justice (DoJ) two weeks ago showed Mueller investigating if Trump committed obstruction. It laid out specific and unsuccessful attempts by Trump to obstruct Mueller himself. Despite the evidence he laid out, Mueller concluded he couldn’t affirm "no criminal conduct occurred.”


Attorney general William Barr said after the conclusion of Mueller's investigation that both he and former deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein determined Mueller's evidence was "not sufficient" to support prosecuting Trump for obstruction.
In the letter, former federal prosecutors said the Mueller report "describes multiple efforts by the president to curtail the scope of the Special Counsel’s investigation." They pointed to when Trump pressured then-attorney general Jeff Sessions to reverse his decision to recuse himself from overseeing Mueller's investigation.

The letter also pointed out Trump directed his former chief of staff Reince Priebus to fire Sessions, which Priebus refused.
"In our system, every accused person is presumed innocent and it is always the government’s burden to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt," wrote the former prosecutors. "But, to look at these facts and say that a prosecutor could not probably sustain a conviction for obstruction of justice -- the standard set out in Principles of Federal Prosecution -- runs counter to logic and our experience."
"We believe strongly that, but for the OLC (Office of Legal Counsel) memo, the overwhelming weight of professional judgment would come down in favor of prosecution for the conduct outlined in the Mueller Report," concludes the letter.
In his report, Mueller revealed 10 situations in which he investigated Trump's actions and motivations. These included the firing of former FBI Director James Comey and Trump's pressure on then-White House counsel Don McGahn to remove Mueller from his job.

Mueller found Trump had taken obstructive acts that could have hurt ongoing investigations. He also found Trump intended to disrupt the investigators at times because of his own personal motivations, like silencing questions about his 2016 p**********l e******n victory.
Instead of deciding whether to prosecute Trump, Mueller said he wouldn’t exonerate Trump and pointed to the DoJ guidance a President can’t be indicted while in office as a reason for not reaching a conclusion.
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-guilty-felony-if-he-... (show quote)


Yes yes, moldy Trump is guilty of everything single thing he’s ever done his entire life and more so being president.

He’s guilty of enhancing our economy, our jobs, our standing of respect with world leaders or perhaps fear. He’s brought back or trying to bring back fair business trade. He’s against socialism is against arbitrarily giving up our constitutional rights to bear arms. He believes in God and the sanctity of life for babies. Yep he is. one bad ass do nothing. Pppffftttt

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May 7, 2019 09:29:51   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
byronglimish wrote:
Your Muslim boy Brennan said "the President committed treason" That liar had to eat his words too.


Not to mention ADAM SCHIFF saying he has plenty of evidence Trump colluded with Russia, soooo where is it?? Pppffttt

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May 7, 2019 09:40:07   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
One could search out 500 who do not agree with the Democrat and RINO former prosecutors.


The story is meaningless other than giving a bunch of impotent progs a litigious erection.

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May 7, 2019 09:44:15   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
byronglimish wrote:
The story is meaningless other than giving a bunch of impotent progs a litigious erection.


Lolololloll the visual of this is too damn pathetic, but funny!!!! Coffee spill!!!

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May 7, 2019 09:46:37   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
lindajoy wrote:
Not to mention ADAM SCHIFF saying he has plenty of evidence Trump colluded with Rusdis, soooo where is it?? Pppffttt


Exactly Linda, S**tf is the epitome of national s******n.

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May 7, 2019 09:47:15   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
moldyoldy wrote:
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-guilty-felony-if-he-wasnt-president-according-450-federal-prosecutors-2790238


If he weren’t a sitting president, Donald Trump will have been found guilty of obstruction of justice based on evidence laid out in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe, said a bipartisan letter signed by more than 450 former federal prosecutors and posted online Monday.
"Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice," said the lawyers in their letter posted on Medium.
The letter was signed by officials from various backgrounds, and included former lawyers and other top officials from the Democratic and Republican parties. Signatories to the letter included officials whose government service included every administration since President Dwight Eisenhower.


The redacted Mueller report released by the Department of Justice (DoJ) two weeks ago showed Mueller investigating if Trump committed obstruction. It laid out specific and unsuccessful attempts by Trump to obstruct Mueller himself. Despite the evidence he laid out, Mueller concluded he couldn’t affirm "no criminal conduct occurred.”


Attorney general William Barr said after the conclusion of Mueller's investigation that both he and former deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein determined Mueller's evidence was "not sufficient" to support prosecuting Trump for obstruction.
In the letter, former federal prosecutors said the Mueller report "describes multiple efforts by the president to curtail the scope of the Special Counsel’s investigation." They pointed to when Trump pressured then-attorney general Jeff Sessions to reverse his decision to recuse himself from overseeing Mueller's investigation.

The letter also pointed out Trump directed his former chief of staff Reince Priebus to fire Sessions, which Priebus refused.
"In our system, every accused person is presumed innocent and it is always the government’s burden to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt," wrote the former prosecutors. "But, to look at these facts and say that a prosecutor could not probably sustain a conviction for obstruction of justice -- the standard set out in Principles of Federal Prosecution -- runs counter to logic and our experience."
"We believe strongly that, but for the OLC (Office of Legal Counsel) memo, the overwhelming weight of professional judgment would come down in favor of prosecution for the conduct outlined in the Mueller Report," concludes the letter.
In his report, Mueller revealed 10 situations in which he investigated Trump's actions and motivations. These included the firing of former FBI Director James Comey and Trump's pressure on then-White House counsel Don McGahn to remove Mueller from his job.

Mueller found Trump had taken obstructive acts that could have hurt ongoing investigations. He also found Trump intended to disrupt the investigators at times because of his own personal motivations, like silencing questions about his 2016 p**********l e******n victory.
Instead of deciding whether to prosecute Trump, Mueller said he wouldn’t exonerate Trump and pointed to the DoJ guidance a President can’t be indicted while in office as a reason for not reaching a conclusion.
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-guilty-felony-if-he-... (show quote)


Haha! That’s like saying, I would be a thief for taking things out of my house if I wasn’t the owner of my house.”

Why, because Trump, as duly elected President, has the Constitutional authority to fire anyone in the justice department without reason. Take that fact away, and what evidence are you left with?

When will you l*****ts get a little integrity?

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May 7, 2019 10:03:57   #
waltmoreno
 
moldyoldy wrote:
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-guilty-felony-if-he-wasnt-president-according-450-federal-prosecutors-2790238


If he weren’t a sitting president, Donald Trump will have been found guilty of obstruction of justice based on evidence laid out in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe, said a bipartisan letter signed by more than 450 former federal prosecutors and posted online Monday.
"Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice," said the lawyers in their letter posted on Medium.
The letter was signed by officials from various backgrounds, and included former lawyers and other top officials from the Democratic and Republican parties. Signatories to the letter included officials whose government service included every administration since President Dwight Eisenhower.


The redacted Mueller report released by the Department of Justice (DoJ) two weeks ago showed Mueller investigating if Trump committed obstruction. It laid out specific and unsuccessful attempts by Trump to obstruct Mueller himself. Despite the evidence he laid out, Mueller concluded he couldn’t affirm "no criminal conduct occurred.”


Attorney general William Barr said after the conclusion of Mueller's investigation that both he and former deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein determined Mueller's evidence was "not sufficient" to support prosecuting Trump for obstruction.
In the letter, former federal prosecutors said the Mueller report "describes multiple efforts by the president to curtail the scope of the Special Counsel’s investigation." They pointed to when Trump pressured then-attorney general Jeff Sessions to reverse his decision to recuse himself from overseeing Mueller's investigation.

The letter also pointed out Trump directed his former chief of staff Reince Priebus to fire Sessions, which Priebus refused.
"In our system, every accused person is presumed innocent and it is always the government’s burden to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt," wrote the former prosecutors. "But, to look at these facts and say that a prosecutor could not probably sustain a conviction for obstruction of justice -- the standard set out in Principles of Federal Prosecution -- runs counter to logic and our experience."
"We believe strongly that, but for the OLC (Office of Legal Counsel) memo, the overwhelming weight of professional judgment would come down in favor of prosecution for the conduct outlined in the Mueller Report," concludes the letter.
In his report, Mueller revealed 10 situations in which he investigated Trump's actions and motivations. These included the firing of former FBI Director James Comey and Trump's pressure on then-White House counsel Don McGahn to remove Mueller from his job.

Mueller found Trump had taken obstructive acts that could have hurt ongoing investigations. He also found Trump intended to disrupt the investigators at times because of his own personal motivations, like silencing questions about his 2016 p**********l e******n victory.
Instead of deciding whether to prosecute Trump, Mueller said he wouldn’t exonerate Trump and pointed to the DoJ guidance a President can’t be indicted while in office as a reason for not reaching a conclusion.
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-guilty-felony-if-he-... (show quote)


Mark Levin has an excellent audio about this which he terms as a "non event". He points out that there are many thousands of former federal prosecutors. He points out that this "dime a dozen" small group of malcontents is not surprising, given their overall large numbers. And there's nothing about their position as "former" federal prosecutors, that makes them constitutional law experts. He guesses they're now probably slip and fall lawyers, or ambulance chasing lawyers.
He points out the idiocy of the statement that,"Donald Trump will have been found guilty of obstruction of justice but for the office he held."
This is the height of stupidity!
But for the fact that he is president, this wouldn't be an issue. But for the fact that he is president, there would have been no Robert Mueller, and no Mueller investigation, which incidentally, Trump allowed to proceed, declining to assert not only lawyer-client privilege but also executive privilege.
This non news concoction, fails to point out that Barr testified under oath that he specifically asked Mueller on multiple occasions whether he refused to bring obstruction of justice charges against Trump because of the 50 year DOJ memos prohibition against indicting a sitting president. And Mueller answered "No!"
End of story.
Nice try moldy. Go back to the drawing board and try something else. Maybe getting his tax returns will get you more milage.

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May 7, 2019 10:15:01   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
I guess the political experts of OPP are smarter than several hundred federal prosecuters.

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May 7, 2019 10:16:30   #
Rose42
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I guess the political experts of OPP are smarter than several hundred federal prosecuters.


Where is the fun in everyone agreeing?

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May 7, 2019 10:28:01   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Rose42 wrote:
Where is the fun in everyone agreeing?


You have a point there-- Doggone it I agree with you.

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May 7, 2019 10:41:09   #
waltmoreno
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I guess the political experts of OPP are smarter than several hundred federal prosecuters.


The “several hundred” FORMER federal prosecutors are eclipsed by the many thousands of former federal prosecutors who chose not to sign onto the memo.
More importantly, Robert Mueller himself told William Barr on multiple occasions that the DOJ prohibition against indicting a sitting president was NOT the reason he chose not to bring obstruction of justice charges against the president. That settles it!
Mueller was in the best position to know the law in that area given that he worked exclusively as special counsel for over 2 years and had all the information available to him to insure he made the correct decision. The signers of that memo didn’t have all the info needed to make the decision. And being former federal prosecutors doesn’t make them constitutional law experts on this area of law.

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