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May 6, 2019 08:53:30   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
bggamers wrote:



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May 6, 2019 09:03:36   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
lindajoy wrote:
Aw heck bg, carrying 400 billion in bond debt means nothing to them.. Why not add a bit for a truly good cause??


Wasn't that supersonic train or whatever they got the government loan for and then dropped due to cost overruns that was California wasn't it like I said they don't do much in the thinking department. Their common sense is shorter than my little toe

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May 6, 2019 09:24:01   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
bggamers wrote:
Wasn't that supersonic train or whatever they got the government loan for and then dropped due to cost overruns that was California wasn't it like I said they don't do much in the thinking department. Their common sense is shorter than my little toe
Wasn't that supersonic train or whatever they got ... (show quote)


Yes... Highspeed trains are excellent...
But they have a high initial investment...
I believe Hawaii had a similar debacle...
(Although I am not sure if they are a Liberal state...Seems like they should be... But am not overly familiar with them...)

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May 6, 2019 09:40:48   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
PeterS wrote:
If you were smart you would. The whole premise behind Climate Change is changing weather patterns but that doesn't mean that we won't have years that are hotter than normal and years that are colder than normal only that the running mean is getting progressively hotter overall. In states prone to drought they should be making plans for containing water during periods of heavy rainfall and snowfall. This would mean creating new lakes, deepening existing lakes, and maybe even storing it in underground aquifers.
If you were smart you would. The whole premise beh... (show quote)


THat would mean that the idiots in charge would have to do something to contain water for drought instead of taking our president off ballots and building bullshit trains for a few people!

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May 6, 2019 09:48:07   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
THat would mean that the idiots in charge would have to do something to contain water for drought instead of taking our president off ballots and building bullshit trains for a few people!



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May 6, 2019 11:35:19   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Yes... Highspeed trains are excellent...
But they have a high initial investment...
I believe Hawaii had a similar debacle...
(Although I am not sure if they are a Liberal state...Seems like they should be... But am not overly familiar with them...)


They are liberal, but reasonably liberal in my opinion. I got to spend a glorious two weeks in Hawaii right after Christmas and it was spectacular, countryside and people...

Both tour guides used while there had occasion to make reference to the solar panels they put in spending millions of dollars but doesn’t seem to work very well in Hawaii given their climate, storms etc. They weren’t pleased with that decision...

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May 6, 2019 11:39:02   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
bggamers wrote:
Wasn't that supersonic train or whatever they got the government loan for and then dropped due to cost overruns that was California wasn't it like I said they don't do much in the thinking department. Their common sense is shorter than my little toe
Wasn't that supersonic train or whatever they got ... (show quote)


Lololol your little toe~~ 🤣

Yes its hit more snags than you can imagine~~hit with lawsuits, engineering problems, geological obstacles, bureaucracy, swelling costs and delays. Its budget has ballooned from $33 billion to $77 billion, with no secure financing plan...

In other words BG, doing what they commonly due, Mess it up.. Likely to be scrubbed since its not gotten anywhere still....

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May 6, 2019 14:36:56   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
lindajoy wrote:
Lololol your little toe~~ 🤣

Yes its hit more snags than you can imagine~~hit with lawsuits, engineering problems, geological obstacles, bureaucracy, swelling costs and delays. Its budget has ballooned from $33 billion to $77 billion, with no secure financing plan...

In other words BG, doing what they commonly due, Mess it up.. Likely to be scrubbed since its not gotten anywhere still....


ouch, what a costly wast seems to be what they do a great deal of. They keep complaining of global warming YET they are about to be washed away seeing how they stupidly (didn't spend money to do damage control of their forest)so now have nothing but dirt. This happens every year fires then floods with mud and debris loss of life and they expect that the government fork over millions NO billion to pull they fat out of the fire which means you and I get insurance hikes up the wazoo then they talk about separating from the union who going to pay for their BS then RUSSIA

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May 6, 2019 14:43:06   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
SinnieK wrote:
https://www.newcaliforniastate.com/single-post/2019/05/03/Global-Cooling-California-Snowpack-at-188?utm_campaign=9d167620-5831-45c1-b8c4-45cc86e8531f&utm_source=so

The California Department of Water Resources (DWR) reported on May 2 that its Northern Sierra snowpack and water equivalent levels were 188 percent of average.

DWR conducted its fifth and final manual survey at Phillips Station near Sierra-Tahoe, recording a snow depth of 47 inches and a snow water equivalent (SWE) of 27.5 inches. The statewide average snowpack sits at 31 inches of SWE, which is 144 percent of average for this time of year.

The 2019 snowpack peaked on about March 31 and is the fifth largest on record, based on more than 250 manual snow surveys conducted each month. But there is a high probability for new snowfalls over the weekend and later next week.

California’s four northern reservoirs that include Trinity Lake, Lake Shasta, Lake Oroville and Folsom Lake are already at about 93 percent of capacity and rising fast. Hydrologists estimate the April through July snowpack melt and river runoff will be at 158 percent of normal this year.

All of this water should be excellent news to a state that suffered a series of droughts. But California has drastically under-invested in water infrastructure based on predictions that global climate temperature increase would cause the Sierra snowpack to permanently decline by between 48 to 65 percent.

The highly-questionable projections allowed former Gov. Jerry Brown to justify slashing billions of dollars in DWR maintenance funds. Despite campaigning for Californiavoters to approve the $7.5-billion Proposition 1 Water Bond in 2014 and $4-billion Prop 68 Water Bond in 2018, huge amounts of bond funds were siphoned off for environmental boondoggles and none has been spent on above-ground storage to address the state’s cycling between recurring droughts and floods.

The American Society of Civil Engineers awarded California its booby prize in each of the last 3 years as America’s worst state for infrastructure maintenance and improvements. ASCE gave its worst national grade of "D-" for California dams, waterways, and flood control system.

The lack of investment resulted in the 900-foot Oroville Dam almost collapsing during a series of early 2017 El Niño “Pineapple Express" storms that "walloped" the state with as much as five inches of warm rain in a single day. The costs to repair the dam’s main and emergency spillways passed $1.1 billion mark in February, with more work planned.

DWR chief of flood operations John Paasch previously advised, “Along with the water supply benefits of the heavy rain and snow, there is also increased flood risk.”

With the Oroville Dam water height level rising over a foot a day and just 15 feet from overflowing the dam again, DWR and the National Weather Service are closely monitoring weather, reservoir, river, and flood conditions to “help people and communities respond to flood events and stay safe.”
https://www.newcaliforniastate.com/single-post/201... (show quote)


So much for global warming. Prepare for times when water is needed and store it? Pretty cheap in thousands of rain barrels.

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May 6, 2019 14:49:13   #
woodguru
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sorry...

How does one determine an average in an open system?


The snow pack is higher than it's been in a decade or two, it's good news but perhaps a bit too much of a good thing.

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May 6, 2019 14:52:40   #
woodguru
 
lindajoy wrote:
Lololol your little toe~~ 🤣

Yes its hit more snags than you can imagine~~hit with lawsuits, engineering problems, geological obstacles, bureaucracy, swelling costs and delays. Its budget has ballooned from $33 billion to $77 billion, with no secure financing plan...

In other words BG, doing what they commonly due, Mess it up.. Likely to be scrubbed since its not gotten anywhere still....


BART had the same opposition and obstacles, it serves the whole San Francisco peninsula.

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May 6, 2019 15:21:24   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
So much for global warming. Prepare for times when water is needed and store it? Pretty cheap in thousands of rain barrels.


DO you know in Seattle I'm told they have made it illegal to use rain barrels because your stealing from (GET THIS) the water company apparently the rain belongs to THEM who knew right has anyone told GOD about this development HMMM

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May 6, 2019 15:42:45   #
JRuss
 
Yes we are in a period of Global Cooling. If the rate of cooling continues, by 2024 Canada and the Northern third of the United States may be in an Ice Age. This would result in a massive food shortage. Of course on God knows what the Global Temperature will be in 2024. The best we can do know is allow water from the Sacramento River to again flow to California's Central Valley. I know that when the water to the Central Valley was turned off, most of the trees died, but at least water can now be dumped down the wells to put water back in the Central Valley aquifer instead of sending most of the excess to the Pacific Ocean.



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May 6, 2019 17:37:03   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
woodguru wrote:
The snow pack is higher than it's been in a decade or two, it's good news but perhaps a bit too much of a good thing.


You got that right!! We had a busying snow season and so beautiful!!! Slopes stayed opened longer, still some still open too..

We just keep getting it.. Snow projected Wed Night ~Thursday this week .. 221cm so far with twi blizzards too..

Have had temps in the 60S and low 70s couple of days...

https://www.j2ski.com/snow_forecast/United_States/Steamboat_snow_history.html
Water table full too.. Of course some area’s still face water problems later in the summer....

https://www.j2ski.com/snow_forecast/United_States/Steamboat_snow_history.html

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May 6, 2019 22:18:10   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
bggamers wrote:
But lindajoy that cost money something the California government likes to collect but not spend because their broke and way over their heads in debt I hear and thinking ahead well they don't do that well from where I set their chasing more business away then pulling them in
But lindajoy that cost money something the Califor... (show quote)


$22 Billion surplus.

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