JoyV

A true Muslim naturalized US citizen married to a cousin of mine, told us if he was told to kill us, he would be sorry to do so but would carry out the order. The way he said it I almost expected him to add, "it's nothing personal." What made it even more scary is he was a quiet spoken man who showed every evidence of a deep love for my cousin.

Where have you been that you haven't seen mass murders from Muslims world wide?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

[quote=JediKnight][quote=maximus]God creates people. People make themselves who they are, like Hitler. I don't believe that all Muslims are bad, but I still say that they are the only major religion that has killed well over 10,000 Christians since 1995, just for being Christians.[/quot

Maximus: I am Christian, and I can tell you without a doubt that not all who claim to be Christians are. But since as a Christian, I understand that "God is the judge - not I" and that God holds the world in his hand, I choose not to pretend that I am in charge of the world. I am content at being the best individual example of God's love that I am able to be....Christ will set all things in order when He returns again.[/quote]

Good for you...I feel the same way. However, I don't believe that God ever intended for his children to sit back and wait on the return of Jesus while Christian heads are being loped off by the thousands. Luke 22:

35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.

36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.

38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

Even though they chop off Christian heads, I don't judge them. I only stated that they actually DO the head cutting off business, and they do. I wonder how you deal with this passage? Mathew 18:

15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

If Jesus said it, then it must NOT be judgemental. What I said is factual, not judgemental. So, pray tell me how I am pretending that I am in charge of the world. Because I stated a fact?

Mari Olsdatter

50 Muslims died in New Zealand, made much of, hijabs of "solidarity", Muslim prayers, reported in all legacy media even while jihadis tried to force their religion on 300+ Christians the same week killing them, no condolences, no legacy media, no crosses in "solidarity", no prayers & condolences.

You can keep your "non-war". Few Christians try to force their religion "down your throat" and yet such as you claim we do.

Mari Olsdatter

There was such a clause in the McCarran-Warner Act but several traitors in Congress very quietly eliminated it in 1990. Biden, Mitch McConnell among them. I don't recall the names of the others.

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

I can tell you that you are wrongto say that only America fears Islam. Every country that has had a major influx of Muslims are protesting their governments allowing that to happen, Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, all of them.

Here's proof of what I say from News Now, but I doubt if you'll read it;

With the rife security issues experienced across Europe due to mass Muslim migration, a poll conducted across all 28 nations in the European Union (EU) revealed that 78 percent of EU citizens see the influx as a problem and desire tighter control of Europe’s external borders.

Most of the 1,000 respondents to the Századvég Foundation’s Project 28 survey conducted in February indicated that they fear the problems incurred by Europe’s illegal immigration for several of reasons.

“Residents of the EU continue to believe that migration has a significant impact: the majority (62 percent) of people believe that immigration increases crime and the threat of terrorism, while changing European culture and posing a huge burden on receiving countries,” Project 28 reported from its poll. “The perception of migration has also changed, with more and more people (now 54 percent) believing that the majority of migrants come to Europe for economic reasons and state benefits.”

More Europeans terrified of terrorism

More and more Europeans are fearing for their lives in the wake of the continent’s increasingly frequent Islamic terrorist attacks – and they are becoming wary that the problem is only getting worse.

“Overall, 82 percent of people think there is a chance that a terrorist attack similar to what happened in Paris, in Brussels or in Berlin could happen in their country, [and] most of Europe is dissatisfied with Brussels’s handling of the immigration crisis,” Project 28 researchers divulged. “[M]ore than two-thirds (68 percent) of survey participants are afraid [‘strongly fear’ or ‘moderately fear’] that African immigrants will arrive to Europe in masses in the next decade.”

There are no exceptions throughout Europe when it comes to worrying about the Islamic invasion that is being pushed on Europeans by the EU and the United Nations under the politically correct veil of alleviating “the Muslim refugee crisis” to help the immigrants supposedly evade oppression and persecution in their native lands throughout Africa and the Middle East.

“[M]ore citizens in every singleEuropean country say that [Muslim migration] is a ‘serious problem’ than say it is not a problem or not a very serious problem,” Breitbart News reported from the survey. “The rapid population growth of Muslims in Europe is another area of particular concern among Europeans … with 70 percent of the people believing that a growing Muslim presence is a problem and a mere 8 percent saying it is no threat at all.”

In fact, more than six out of 10 of Europeans believe that the surge of Muslim immigrants into their countries will escalate the threat of terrorism, while the same proportion (62 percent) also see the influx as an indicator that their crime rate will increase.

Personal safety is not the only issue raising the concerns of most Europeans, who are apprehensive that their homeland’s allure will continue to attract more immigration problems.

“A majority of citizens (57 percent) said that the influx of immigrants will change the culture of their countries,” Breitbart’s Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D, gleaned from the Project 28 survey. “The perception of migration has also changed, as a majority of Europeans are now convinced that most migrants are attracted to Europe by ‘pull factors’ such as the EU’s economy and social benefits.”

As a result, many Europeans fear that their finances, comfort of living and lifestyles will suffer.

“Handling immigration, on the other hand, is also perceived as imposing a major economic burden on EU member states, with 73 percent of those interviewed saying that managing immigration will pose a ‘huge financial burden’ on receiving countries” Williams added. “Only 17 percent believe that the cost of handling immigration will not be ‘huge.’”

Migration quotas under fire

Migrant quotas have been a hot topic of debate in Europe as Muslims terrorist attacks and community takeovers continue to spread across the continent.

“Across the continent since the 2015 surge, the EU has been attempting to make each member state pay for a decision which was unilaterally decided upon by the German government,” the American Spectator reported. “Whether every other member state should help ameliorate Angela Merkel’s mistake is a heated issue – and not only in eastern Europe. At the height of the 2015 crisis, the British government refused to accept any migrant quotas enforced from Berlin or Brussels.”

Germany is already feeling the repercussions of its own lax and accommodating migrant policies from the past few years.

“Research commissioned by the German government and published in January found that there had been a large increase in crime in Germany in recent years and that more than 90 percent of that crime could be attributed to young male migrants,” American Spectator’s Douglas Murray pointed out. “How strange it is that something should be a majority public opinion – and a provable opinion at that – and still remain politically unsayable.”

In lieu of rising the Islamic terrorism and crime threats across Europe, the popularity of migrant quotas is plummeting – with Germany wanting other countries to take more of the burden.

“The proportion of EU citizens who approve of an EU quota plan has fallen from 53 percent in 2016 to 47 percent this year, [s]o quotas are even more unpopular now than they were two years ago,” Murray continued. “Naturally, the idea of quotas is most popular in Germany – which has most to gain by dispersing its migrants around the rest of Europe – with 67 percent of respondents approving of quotas.”

Not in my own backyard …

With the migrant threat reaching their own communities, Europeans are now more wary of welcoming Muslim refugees into their own countries – but they would still like to help … while they remain abroad.

“Fully 81 percent of the European public agree that immigrants should be helped in their own countries, with almost half (48 percent) saying that the EU should provide ‘substantial financial support’ to the countries where they are currently residing – like Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey,” Murray noted from the results. “The public are also supportive of temporary migration, with two-thirds of Europeans agreeing that immigrants should be sent back to their home countries after the war in Syria ends.”

A very slim minority of Europeans now believe that a continued mass Muslim migration to their continent is a good idea.

“Just 14 percent of the European public believe that the EU should accept a million asylum seekers a year, and only 9 percent of the European public think that immigrants should be accepted without any limitations,” Murray pointed out.

Most Europeans have posterity in mind when seeking to reform the EU’s liberal immigration policy that has already substantially changed their own way of life – for the worse.

“Crucially, the public are aware of something about which their politicians have been blithe – which is that migration on the scale Europe has seen in recent years is not just a problem for this generation, but for succeeding ones,” Murray continued. “A frightening 50 percent of Europeans believe that their children will have a worse life than them.”

Citizens of nations that receive a higher influx of Muslim migrants than the rest of Europe are much more likely to be wary of refugees flooding their borders – especially with their future generations in mind.

“This view is noticeably higher in countries like Austria, Greece and Germany, which have been at the forefront of the migration crises,” Murray concluded. “Specifically, 70 percent of the European public believe that the ‘rapid population growth of Muslims’ is either a ‘somewhat serious’ or ‘very serious’ threat to Europe.”

Radiance3

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This country was founded and owned by Christians:
Here are the following events how America was created.

* The United States was founded by Christians from the very beginning it was discovered.
* 1492 Christopher Columbus , a Christian Catholic sailed to the West.
* 1496 Amerigus Vispucci, another Christian Catholic continued Columbus journey.
* America was named from Americus Vispucci .
* America celebrate Colmbus Day every year.
* The Pilgrims from Europe who came first and settled were all Christians. They came to the New World with the "Holy Bible", the only precious asset they owned.
* They toiled the land under the harshest condition, no home to warm up, chased and killed by Indians.
* Many of them died working under the harshest condition, the Holy Bible was their precious source of comfort.
* 99.5% of the Founders were all Christians.
* The .5% later on became Christian in the full faith of Christ.
* The US Constitution was written under the Christian-Judeo principles and tenets.
* In God we trust written on our currency because God gave us the principle of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
* Thus our country was created a Constitutional Republic under the Christian principles.

The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (The McCarran-Walter Act) provided quota system for countries migrating to the US. It did mention from countries all over the world. It did not mention of Muslims allowed to immigrate.

But now Muslims are so radical and dangerous, because they live in violence and impose deaths to those who don't submit to their moon god. That all must be killed unless they submit. Thus the population of Christians all over the world is sinking because each month, hundreds of thousands of Christians are being killed by Muslims. There places of worships, and Churches are burned.

The order of their Islam god is to kill those infidels who don't submit to him.
How would you like that?

JediKnight

Joy - I still will not accept that ALL Muslims are mass murderers. I also know several of them. The ones I have met are peaceful and just want to enjoy their lives. I don't see much difference when I consider the large amount of mass murderers America has spawned -except our killers tend to do their deeds in the dark compared to these radical extremists who insist on trying to take everyone with them. Timothy McVeigh, Son of Sam, the country concert killer, etc. - are just as bad as the Muslims you fear. How can we cry and shout to others to clean up their yards when we need to clean up our own?

Mari Olsdatter

As far as I know, no one has claimed that there are not any Muslims that are bad Muslims from the *Islamic point of view*, good people from our point of view. It is Islam and those that are or may become true adherents that are the problem. Look around at all the lapsed Christians, Buddhists, etc. The wrongs they commit are directly against the teachings. Now look at Muslims that commit the same acts...they aren't lapsed, but are obedient to Islam. There are 108 direct commands in the Koran to kill in perpetuity every nonbeliever that doesn't convert. What do you suppose happens when one of the "good" Muslims decides he or she should get serious about their religion in order to be "saved" to heaven?

JediKnight

You overlook the power of the Cross as well as the fact that the Holy Bible predicted exactly what we are experiencing to the letter. When we as individuals try to play God is when we commit our greatest sin. "Judge not -lest ye be judged." Read Mark 7:6-9 to get a better perspective of how God views those who disobey His commands. To my knowledge, no where is there a law or decree that gives Americans the right to decide who is holy and who is not or even who's religion is good and who's is bad....especially when we have so many who are merely "playing or pretending" to be Christian.

JediKnight

Mari: if all Muslims believe they should kill all non-believers who don't convert - why aren't we hearing about more large scale killings by them? There are over 2.5 billion "Muslim" believers in the world...seems like if they truly believed as you say there would be a new mass killing every day.

johnsorrell7

I agree with you that God said" judge thee not lest you be judged".But what you have missed completely is I believe that God expects us to protect ourselves from the ones trying to kill us. God expects a little more from us than for us to sit idly and allow these musilims of a radical religion kill us off and rule the world. I do not believe and will not believe, that God sanctions what the musilims are doing to not only the Christions, but to the infidels. Not all of the Americans they have out right killed, were Christians. they have killed Americans. Do not defend them for what they do!!!!

JediKnight

John: unlike we humans, God does not make mistakes. God said the two greatest commandments are: 1) to love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, mind, body, and soul, and 2) to love thy neighbor as thyself. Where in all of the teachings of Jesus do you see anything that says "kill the Muslims' or "deport the Mexicans" or "suppress the minorities?" I have read the entire bible many times....I still haven't found any of what you're saying in it. You are missing the big picture - this life is only a temporary existence. What we should be striving for is eternal life -which is only available through the gift of Jesus Christ -and Jesus showed love and compassion to even the Roman soldiers who crucified Him....let that sink in for a minute.

Smedley_buzkill

By all means, show all the compassion to wetbacks that you wish to. Just use your own money.

JoyV

When did I say all were mass murderers? But all who practice their religion know that they might be called on to kill infidels. Unlike the Christians, whose Old Testament has plenty of atrocities, the New Testament they live under does not call for them to kill unbelievers. Individual Christians may have warped minds and become mass murderers. But it is not something their religion demands they do. I would think 99.99% of Christians if their religious leader (priest, pastor, minister, or what have you) were to call them and say they must kill; they'd either laugh or call the cops.

JoyV

Because most are working in the infiltration phase leading toward conversion. Look at what is happening in public schools with CAIR.