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Apr 12, 2019 21:11:13   #
Cuda2020
 
Trooper745 wrote:
Bullsh!t, ... illegals and dead people vote for democrats. Not propaganda, just fact!


What does it get you believing such ludicrous nonsense? How does this make you feel better?

Look at your attitude it has effected your cognitive reasoning.

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Apr 12, 2019 22:05:04   #
debeda
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Illegals and dead people don’t vote, if a few fraudulent votes slipped by it wouldn’t be enough to make any impact, your listening to propaganda misinformation hearsay and propganda, no offense.


I dunno. I'm from Chicago. We've had the tombstone vote here for years. Also, Illinois and some other states give illegals drivers licenses. When you get your license you're asked if you want to register to vote. If you say yes, you're ushered to another counter where you have to raise your right hand and say you're a citizen. Voila. Voters card comes in the mail. My brother's next door neighbor is not a citizen. My brother ran into him at the polls. My brother complained to the poll chief. He was told "You have to expect this". So I must disagree, as I have first hand knowledge that illegals do, indeed, vote. Texas also apparently has a huge problem with it. I'm sure California does too, but they don't seem to see it as a problem

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Apr 13, 2019 07:32:43   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Illegals don’t vote, that’s all propaganda.


No, it isn't. I remember a California woman bragging about voting and being undocumented. She got deported. So what, she's probably back in country by now and getting to vote come 2020.

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Apr 13, 2019 07:36:56   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
What does it get you believing such ludicrous nonsense? How does this make you feel better?

Look at your attitude it has effected your cognitive reasoning.


Trooper 745 is telling the truth...you are not. Where do you get bthe nerve to promote your relative truth. In case you don't know, that means to you, the truth is what you want it to be, not what it is. What Trooper745 said is EASY to look up. You ought to try it.

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Apr 13, 2019 10:09:39   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Illegals and dead people don’t vote, if a few fraudulent votes slipped by it wouldn’t be enough to make any impact, your listening to propaganda misinformation hearsay and propganda, no offense.


Not according to the Texas Secretary of State.
https://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article225094315.html

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2010/07/20/al-franken-may-have-won-his-senate-seat-through-voter-fraud
Most generally, on OPP, if you expect anyone to believe you, you post a link to a source to back up your opinion.
I included the Franken election because sometimes a couple of hundred votes are all it takes to turn an election.
While there were no accusations of fraud, a recent Washington State gubernatorial election was decided by less than 500 votes. There have been some very close elections.
It sometimes doesn't take widespread fraud.

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Apr 13, 2019 10:26:05   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
New York Assembly Democrats on Tuesday blocked a bill that proposed expanding college tuition aid for children of deceased and disabled military veterans after– having a week earlier– approved a state budget that set aside $27 million in college tuition aid for illegal immigrants.

The Assembly’s Higher Education Committee voted 15 to 11 on Tuesday to shelve the bill, effectively quashing its chances of going to the floor, the Post-Standard reported.

The article goes on to state the following:

The decision came after committee chair Deborah Glick, D-Manhattan, and Speaker Carl Heastie said $27 million from the state’s budget would go towards supporting the Jose Peralta New York State DREAM Act, which allows illegal immigrants to qualify for state aid for higher education, Newsweek reported.

Glick said any expansion of college tuition aid to Gold Star families was not within the state’s budget and pointed to an already-existing program that provides $2.7 million to 145 students who are dependents of vets who served in combat zones, the New York Post reported.

“Assemblywoman Glick should be ashamed of herself,” said State Sen. Robert Ortt, R-Niagara. “We set aside $27 million dollars for college for people that are here illegally… Apparently, $2.7 million is all that the families of soldiers who are killed, get. If you’re a child of a fallen soldier, you do not rank as high and you know that by the money.”

https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/senate-majority-passes-jose-peralta-new-york-state-dream-act

https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2019/04/ny-assembly-no-free-college-tuition-for-gold-star-families.html

https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2019/04/ny-assembly-democrats-defend-blocking-bill-to-help-gold-star-families.html
New York Assembly Democrats on Tuesday blocked a b... (show quote)
Ah, New York. Well, actually New York, New York, since there are plenty of people living in the state who think what goes on in the Big Apple puts the moron in oxymoron. When will they quit trying to out-Golden State California? If there was somehow a way to surgically remove NYC, SF, LA, Chicago, and a few other bastions of buffoonery, we could MAGA and have it last for decades.

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Apr 13, 2019 10:55:06   #
debeda
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
Ah, New York. Well, actually New York, New York, since there are plenty of people living the state who think what goes on in the Big Apple puts the moron in oxymoron. When will they quit trying to out-Golden State California? If there was somehow a way to surgically remove NYC, SF, LA, Chicago, and a few other bastions of buffoonery, we could MAGA and have it last for decades.



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Apr 13, 2019 11:01:27   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
Ah, New York. Well, actually New York, New York, since there are plenty of people living the state who think what goes on in the Big Apple puts the moron in oxymoron. When will they quit trying to out-Golden State California? If there was somehow a way to surgically remove NYC, SF, LA, Chicago, and a few other bastions of buffoonery, we could MAGA and have it last for decades.


You omitted DC. Was that an oversight?

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Apr 13, 2019 15:20:59   #
Auntie Lulu
 
Pennylynn wrote:
New York Assembly Democrats on Tuesday blocked a bill that proposed expanding college tuition aid for children of deceased and disabled military veterans after– having a week earlier– approved a state budget that set aside $27 million in college tuition aid for illegal immigrants.

The Assembly’s Higher Education Committee voted 15 to 11 on Tuesday to shelve the bill, effectively quashing its chances of going to the floor, the Post-Standard reported.

The article goes on to state the following:

The decision came after committee chair Deborah Glick, D-Manhattan, and Speaker Carl Heastie said $27 million from the state’s budget would go towards supporting the Jose Peralta New York State DREAM Act, which allows illegal immigrants to qualify for state aid for higher education, Newsweek reported.

Glick said any expansion of college tuition aid to Gold Star families was not within the state’s budget and pointed to an already-existing program that provides $2.7 million to 145 students who are dependents of vets who served in combat zones, the New York Post reported.

“Assemblywoman Glick should be ashamed of herself,” said State Sen. Robert Ortt, R-Niagara. “We set aside $27 million dollars for college for people that are here illegally… Apparently, $2.7 million is all that the families of soldiers who are killed, get. If you’re a child of a fallen soldier, you do not rank as high and you know that by the money.”

https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/senate-majority-passes-jose-peralta-new-york-state-dream-act

https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2019/04/ny-assembly-no-free-college-tuition-for-gold-star-families.html

https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2019/04/ny-assembly-democrats-defend-blocking-bill-to-help-gold-star-families.html
New York Assembly Democrats on Tuesday blocked a b... (show quote)


This is such a travesty, it is just unbelievable . . . taxpayer monies going to non-citizens, and the State of New York telling US citizens to hit the road.

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Apr 13, 2019 15:27:19   #
debeda
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
Ah, New York. Well, actually New York, New York, since there are plenty of people living in the state who think what goes on in the Big Apple puts the moron in oxymoron. When will they quit trying to out-Golden State California? If there was somehow a way to surgically remove NYC, SF, LA, Chicago, and a few other bastions of buffoonery, we could MAGA and have it last for decades.


Illinois is the same. You have Chicago, sprngfield and Lake county Democrat. The rest of the state thinks they're all nuts!

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Apr 13, 2019 17:05:01   #
jwrevagent
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The grants are for foreign Students who come legally... Not illegals...

I agree that it is disgusting to provide for illegals over the families of military veterans..


Remember this is New York, the home of Diblasio, Clinton, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Cuomo. Must be something in the water that sucks the brain out of them or something. If I lived in New York, I would be making plans to hastily move to a state that did not use my tax dollars to spit in the face of the people who fought for my freedom to be stupid. But, hey, they love their criminals and their scoff laws there. Egad!

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Apr 13, 2019 17:06:17   #
debeda
 
jwrevagent wrote:
Remember this is New York, the home of Diblasio, Clinton, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Cuomo. Must be something in the water that sucks the brain out of them or something. If I lived in New York, I would be making plans to hastily move to a state that did not use my tax dollars to spit in the face of the people who fought for my freedom to be stupid. But, hey, they love their criminals and their scoff laws there. Egad!



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Apr 14, 2019 04:43:32   #
Seth
 
Pennylynn wrote:
New York Assembly Democrats on Tuesday blocked a bill that proposed expanding college tuition aid for children of deceased and disabled military veterans after– having a week earlier– approved a state budget that set aside $27 million in college tuition aid for illegal immigrants.

The Assembly’s Higher Education Committee voted 15 to 11 on Tuesday to shelve the bill, effectively quashing its chances of going to the floor, the Post-Standard reported.

The article goes on to state the following:

The decision came after committee chair Deborah Glick, D-Manhattan, and Speaker Carl Heastie said $27 million from the state’s budget would go towards supporting the Jose Peralta New York State DREAM Act, which allows illegal immigrants to qualify for state aid for higher education, Newsweek reported.

Glick said any expansion of college tuition aid to Gold Star families was not within the state’s budget and pointed to an already-existing program that provides $2.7 million to 145 students who are dependents of vets who served in combat zones, the New York Post reported.

“Assemblywoman Glick should be ashamed of herself,” said State Sen. Robert Ortt, R-Niagara. “We set aside $27 million dollars for college for people that are here illegally… Apparently, $2.7 million is all that the families of soldiers who are killed, get. If you’re a child of a fallen soldier, you do not rank as high and you know that by the money.”

https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/senate-majority-passes-jose-peralta-new-york-state-dream-act

https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2019/04/ny-assembly-no-free-college-tuition-for-gold-star-families.html

https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2019/04/ny-assembly-democrats-defend-blocking-bill-to-help-gold-star-families.html
New York Assembly Democrats on Tuesday blocked a b... (show quote)


Have you thought of the distinct possibility that -- recall the other thread on the U.N. being behind sneaking in refugees to various parts of the country, think about the Dems with their sanctuary cities and their constant opposition to establishing any sound border and immigration policies, think about the Dems' "enthusiasm" for multiculturalism, think about the Dems' control of the education system and it's lack of teaching Civics or (with the exception of identity politics oriented revisionism) American History, and the tearing down of hundreds of our historic monuments -- all these things, in addition to this preference for educating illegals over educating gold star families' sons and daughters, are related?

I've been seeing and thinking about all this for some time and, seeing as every bit of all the above seems to originate or to be incorporated into the collective agendas of today's Democratic Party that a lot more is happening here than meets the proverbial eye, as in perhaps the Democrats' leadership has something in mind that their more moderate voters, along with swing voters and most others are clueless about.

If you take all the above and add such things as their devout anti-Christianity, their PC policies that label all dissenting opinion as "hate speech," their total disdain for the Constitution up to and including their constant drive to disarm the people, you have to ask yourself just whose side they're on. I mean, how far are they trying to go?

If I didn't know better (ahem!) I'd think they were actually trying to destroy this country altogether, that they were actually a bona fide enemy of the United States of America, not just a political party that represents the will of an American constituency.

Just saying...

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Apr 14, 2019 09:28:13   #
debeda
 
Seth wrote:
Have you thought of the distinct possibility that -- recall the other thread on the U.N. being behind sneaking in refugees to various parts of the country, think about the Dems with their sanctuary cities and their constant opposition to establishing any sound border and immigration policies, think about the Dems' "enthusiasm" for multiculturalism, think about the Dems' control of the education system and it's lack of teaching Civics or (with the exception of identity politics oriented revisionism) American History, and the tearing down of hundreds of our historic monuments -- all these things, in addition to this preference for educating illegals over educating gold star families' sons and daughters, are related?

I've been seeing and thinking about all this for some time and, seeing as every bit of all the above seems to originate or to be incorporated into the collective agendas of today's Democratic Party that a lot more is happening here than meets the proverbial eye, as in perhaps the Democrats' leadership has something in mind that their more moderate voters, along with swing voters and most others are clueless about.

If you take all the above and add such things as their devout anti-Christianity, their PC policies that label all dissenting opinion as "hate speech," their total disdain for the Constitution up to and including their constant drive to disarm the people, you have to ask yourself just whose side they're on. I mean, how far are they trying to go?

If I didn't know better (ahem!) I'd think they were actually trying to destroy this country altogether, that they were actually a bona fide enemy of the United States of America, not just a political party that represents the will of an American constituency.

Just saying...
Have you thought of the distinct possibility that ... (show quote)


VERY, VERY well said, Seth. And the MOST horrendous thing about it is American citizens cheerfully voting and protesting their way to oblivion

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Apr 14, 2019 09:29:33   #
debeda
 
Seth wrote:
Have you thought of the distinct possibility that -- recall the other thread on the U.N. being behind sneaking in refugees to various parts of the country, think about the Dems with their sanctuary cities and their constant opposition to establishing any sound border and immigration policies, think about the Dems' "enthusiasm" for multiculturalism, think about the Dems' control of the education system and it's lack of teaching Civics or (with the exception of identity politics oriented revisionism) American History, and the tearing down of hundreds of our historic monuments -- all these things, in addition to this preference for educating illegals over educating gold star families' sons and daughters, are related?

I've been seeing and thinking about all this for some time and, seeing as every bit of all the above seems to originate or to be incorporated into the collective agendas of today's Democratic Party that a lot more is happening here than meets the proverbial eye, as in perhaps the Democrats' leadership has something in mind that their more moderate voters, along with swing voters and most others are clueless about.

If you take all the above and add such things as their devout anti-Christianity, their PC policies that label all dissenting opinion as "hate speech," their total disdain for the Constitution up to and including their constant drive to disarm the people, you have to ask yourself just whose side they're on. I mean, how far are they trying to go?

If I didn't know better (ahem!) I'd think they were actually trying to destroy this country altogether, that they were actually a bona fide enemy of the United States of America, not just a political party that represents the will of an American constituency.

Just saying...
Have you thought of the distinct possibility that ... (show quote)


And ps WHY isn't civics a part of the curriculum any more? Was it deemed "racist" or something?

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