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Mar 2, 2019 14:46:11   #
son of witless
 
RT friend wrote:
Nothing like that. This is history, the history of Theology, Marx advocated a progress of emancipation but Theological reasoning he skipped, not that there were any rewards in them days, or frequent flyer points, so everyone missed out, anyhow Marx changed his mind so it's safe to assume he cottoned on in the end, and I give him the benefit of the doubt.

Never saw Brave Heart instead I studied what Marx though was beyond usefulness and low and behold what I came across the cognitive development of Theology.

To my surprise every new absolute stood out as the limelight projected by the shadows only to be replaced by a greater shadow projecting a lesser absolute with a brighter limelight.

The Epic of Gilgamesh brought the deluge that was preceded by the Aryian migration South to escape the ice age, so the fire of Prophet Zathushtra was quenched by Gilgamesh's flood narrative, then the Hindu and Greeks opted for absolute anything while Prophet Abraham was guided by the limelight projected by their mistakes.

However the shadows persisted and the Prophet King was impossible to replicate so the Messiah Event replaced what the British, - which includes the Scotts and Irish, - now assume to be what they can make happen disregarding everything else, they figure everything has a price including reality haha haha imbeciles.

So I re-introduced the after-life which preceded the Aryian migration, the after-life was the something Gilgamesh was looking for, if he did but know it.

However it didn't catch on making the second coming of Christ doomed from the start, otherwise I'd have to die and come back immediately to get any credibility, and who would want to associate with the living dead, could be that's why I'm a hermit.

Faced with this development God sent down the Qur'anic injunction written in plain Arabic which saved me from Satan.

But when you think about it the Mahdi could only come from a failed Christ otherwise the Christians wouldn't know that they are the shadows.


Cool .
Nothing like that. This is history, the history o... (show quote)


I never give Marx the benefit of the doubt. He preached a destructive ideology. You should watch Braveheart, it is a very anti English movie. Right up your alley.

" cognitive development of Theology " I am ignorant as to what that is.

" The Epic of Gilgamesh brought the deluge " A story brought a deluge ?

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Mar 2, 2019 15:28:49   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
son of witless wrote:
I never give Marx the benefit of the doubt. He preached a destructive ideology. You should watch Braveheart, it is a very anti English movie. Right up your alley.

" cognitive development of Theology " I am ignorant as to what that is.

" The Epic of Gilgamesh brought the deluge " A story brought a deluge ?


Brave Heart always put me off when the advertisement trailer had his army lined up and he starts screaming some rubbish with silly paint on his face it just seemed so fake, but I enjoyed the scene you put up, that was great.

I'll have a dichotomy for the rest of my life,
You know what they say, paradox began what monism took over from which and after that, loneliness cause monism to segeay by image being handed out, that's given away to us.

So as the story goes when we end its the monist we greet again through the window of opportunity.

So I will presume to know myself what cognition is all about concerning God and philosophy, and explain with the interaction between what is known by the individual and what he finds out is the same process as what began the beginning before understanding was deepened by the same process that began the beginning, all that's happening is a greater complexity that rules out superstition as it grows.

The further you trace back Religious Theology, whose literal meaning is the phenomenon of Religion, the more emphasis you find is given to superstition.

Karen Armstrong is a good Religious Historian I've read a few of her books.

Thanks for your commentary.



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Mar 3, 2019 13:43:21   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
After the death of Chavez in 2013, US-based special interests openly stepped up efforts to finally overturn the political order he built. Corporate financier policy think tank, the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) created a checklist of US foreign policy goals it sought to achieve in Venezuela. They included:

1. The ouster of narco-kingpins who now hold senior posts in government
2. The respect for a constitutional succession
3. The adoption of meaningful electoral reforms to ensure a fair campaign environment and a transparent vote count in expected presidential elections; and
4. The dismantling of Iranian and Hezbollah networks in Venezuela

In reality, AEI is talking about dismantling entirely the obstacles that have prevented the US and the corporate-financier interests that direct it, from installing a client regime and extracting entirely Venezuela’s wealth while obstructing, even dismantling the geopolitical independence and influence achieved by Chavez in Venezuela, throughout South America, and beyond.

The think tank continued by stating:

"Now is the time for US diplomats to begin a quiet dialogue with key regional powers to explain the high cost of Chávez’s criminal regime, including the impact of chavista complicity with narcotraffickers who sow mayhem in Colombia, Central America, and Mexico. Perhaps then we can convince regional leaders to show solidarity with Venezuelan democrats who want to restore a commitment to the rule of law and to rebuild an economy that can be an engine for growth in South America."

By “Venezuelan democrats,” AEI means proxies created, funded, and directed by Washington, including Primero Justicia and the street mobs and paramilitary units it commands.

More recently, another Wall Street-Washington policy think tank, the Brookings Institution, would publish in a paper titled, “Venezuela: A path out of crisis,” a 5-point plan toward escalating the crisis in Venezuela (emphasis added):

1. The United States could expand its assistance to countries that until now have been dependent on Venezuelan oil, as a means to decrease regional support for and dependence on the Maduro government.

2. The United States could increase monetary assistance to credible civil society organizations and nongovernmental organizations able to deliver food and medicines to Venezuelans. By doing so, the United States should make clear that international pressure aims to support democracy, not punish the Venezuelan people.

3. The United States could support efforts by the opposition in Venezuela to build an “off-ramp” that would split moderate elements of the government away from hardliners, encouraging the former to acquiesce to a transition to democracy by lowering their costs of exiting government.

4. The United States could coordinate with international institutions such as the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to offer financial incentives for holding free and fair elections in 2018, and for the opposition to unify and compete in those elections. Such coordination would also involve developing and publicizing a credible plan to restart Venezuela’s economy.

5. As a last resort, the United States could consider raising economic costs to the government through an expanded sanctions regime that aims to limit Venezuelan earnings from oil exports and block further financing. This policy is risky, given that the Maduro government would be able to more credibly shift blame for the economic crisis onto the United States, and should be accompanied by well-publicized efforts to deliver humanitarian aid through credible civil society and nongovernmental organizations.

While the Western media attempts to frame Venezuela’s crisis as a result of “socialism” and “dictatorship,” it is clear by reading the West’s own policy papers that it is owed instead to a systematic assault on Venezuela’s sociopolitical stability and economic viability, spanning decades.

Venezuela is not the first nation in South America that the US has sought to overturn by undermining its economy.

There is little doubt US and other nations sanctions have intentionally worsened humanitarian conditions. The main reason is that harsher sanctions imposed in mid-2017 severely curtailed Venezuela’s ability to incur debt, and in so doing decimated Venezuelan oil production. This has lessened the public resources available to an increasingly desperate population. Far from being an accidental side effect, this seems to be one of the intents of US policy: make Venezuelans so desperate that they turn against Maduro. The inhumanity of such a policy and the underlying objective is crystal clear. Control of Venezuela's oil and natural resources for corporate profits and control.

Considering America’s extensive list of illegal interventions, illegal wars, and illegal occupations it is currently involved in worldwide and the manner in which each was presented to the public – with ideology and humanitarian propaganda used to manipulate public perception, and considering Venezuela’s opposition is a documented recipient of US support, it is clear that yet another illegal intervention is under way, for the benefit of the corporate financiers.

Unipolar vs Multipolar

In a world moving toward multipolarism and greater decentralization on all levels, Venezuela’s collapse and a victory for Washington would undo an increasingly balanced distribution of geopolitical power – both in South and Central America, as well as across the world.

As a major oil producing nation, US control over its people and natural resources would further allow the US and its allies to manipulate energy prices toward achieving future goals – particularly in terms of encircling, isolating, and dismantling other centers of political power dependent on oil production for economic prosperity.

One needs not be a fan of “socialism” to understand that the ultimate outcome of Venezuela’s collapse will be a further concentration of power in Washington and Wall Street’s hands. Such power, regardless of whatever ideology it is superficially wielded behind, will always be abused. Regardless of the alleged form of government a nation may take, as long as it is a step away from unipolar globalization, it is a step in the right direction.

The crisis in Venezuela is not one of socialism versus capitalism or dictatorship versus democracy – it is one of hegemony versus national sovereignty, of centralized unipolar power versus an increasingly multipolar world.

A sovereign and independent Venezuela allowed to pursue its own destiny is one in which its own people will naturally seek to decentralize and distribute power. While the current government may not provide the ideal conditions to accomplish this, conditions under a US client regime – as US-wrecked Libya, Afghanistan, or Iraq prove – would be even worse.

For geopolitical analysts, moving away from ideological talking points and examining the actual government and opposition, their interests, associations, and funding, as well as their base motives reveals a much simpler and consistent narrative, one that any analyst could discern, and a discernment that will stand the test of scrutiny and time. Those entrenched in left/right ideology risk being betrayed by the government’s floundering desperation and the true nature of an opposition that most certainly is not “capitalist” or “pro-democracy.”

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Mar 3, 2019 16:00:19   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
buffalo wrote:
After the death of Chavez in 2013, US-based special interests openly stepped up efforts to finally overturn the political order he built. Corporate financier policy think tank, the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) created a checklist of US foreign policy goals it sought to achieve in Venezuela. They included:

1. The ouster of narco-kingpins who now hold senior posts in government
2. The respect for a constitutional succession
3. The adoption of meaningful electoral reforms to ensure a fair campaign environment and a transparent vote count in expected presidential elections; and
4. The dismantling of Iranian and Hezbollah networks in Venezuela

In reality, AEI is talking about dismantling entirely the obstacles that have prevented the US and the corporate-financier interests that direct it, from installing a client regime and extracting entirely Venezuela’s wealth while obstructing, even dismantling the geopolitical independence and influence achieved by Chavez in Venezuela, throughout South America, and beyond.

The think tank continued by stating:

"Now is the time for US diplomats to begin a quiet dialogue with key regional powers to explain the high cost of Chávez’s criminal regime, including the impact of chavista complicity with narcotraffickers who sow mayhem in Colombia, Central America, and Mexico. Perhaps then we can convince regional leaders to show solidarity with Venezuelan democrats who want to restore a commitment to the rule of law and to rebuild an economy that can be an engine for growth in South America."

By “Venezuelan democrats,” AEI means proxies created, funded, and directed by Washington, including Primero Justicia and the street mobs and paramilitary units it commands.

More recently, another Wall Street-Washington policy think tank, the Brookings Institution, would publish in a paper titled, “Venezuela: A path out of crisis,” a 5-point plan toward escalating the crisis in Venezuela (emphasis added):

1. The United States could expand its assistance to countries that until now have been dependent on Venezuelan oil, as a means to decrease regional support for and dependence on the Maduro government.

2. The United States could increase monetary assistance to credible civil society organizations and nongovernmental organizations able to deliver food and medicines to Venezuelans. By doing so, the United States should make clear that international pressure aims to support democracy, not punish the Venezuelan people.

3. The United States could support efforts by the opposition in Venezuela to build an “off-ramp” that would split moderate elements of the government away from hardliners, encouraging the former to acquiesce to a transition to democracy by lowering their costs of exiting government.

4. The United States could coordinate with international institutions such as the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to offer financial incentives for holding free and fair elections in 2018, and for the opposition to unify and compete in those elections. Such coordination would also involve developing and publicizing a credible plan to restart Venezuela’s economy.

5. As a last resort, the United States could consider raising economic costs to the government through an expanded sanctions regime that aims to limit Venezuelan earnings from oil exports and block further financing. This policy is risky, given that the Maduro government would be able to more credibly shift blame for the economic crisis onto the United States, and should be accompanied by well-publicized efforts to deliver humanitarian aid through credible civil society and nongovernmental organizations.

While the Western media attempts to frame Venezuela’s crisis as a result of “socialism” and “dictatorship,” it is clear by reading the West’s own policy papers that it is owed instead to a systematic assault on Venezuela’s sociopolitical stability and economic viability, spanning decades.

Venezuela is not the first nation in South America that the US has sought to overturn by undermining its economy.

There is little doubt US and other nations sanctions have intentionally worsened humanitarian conditions. The main reason is that harsher sanctions imposed in mid-2017 severely curtailed Venezuela’s ability to incur debt, and in so doing decimated Venezuelan oil production. This has lessened the public resources available to an increasingly desperate population. Far from being an accidental side effect, this seems to be one of the intents of US policy: make Venezuelans so desperate that they turn against Maduro. The inhumanity of such a policy and the underlying objective is crystal clear. Control of Venezuela's oil and natural resources for corporate profits and control.

Considering America’s extensive list of illegal interventions, illegal wars, and illegal occupations it is currently involved in worldwide and the manner in which each was presented to the public – with ideology and humanitarian propaganda used to manipulate public perception, and considering Venezuela’s opposition is a documented recipient of US support, it is clear that yet another illegal intervention is under way, for the benefit of the corporate financiers.

Unipolar vs Multipolar

In a world moving toward multipolarism and greater decentralization on all levels, Venezuela’s collapse and a victory for Washington would undo an increasingly balanced distribution of geopolitical power – both in South and Central America, as well as across the world.

As a major oil producing nation, US control over its people and natural resources would further allow the US and its allies to manipulate energy prices toward achieving future goals – particularly in terms of encircling, isolating, and dismantling other centers of political power dependent on oil production for economic prosperity.

One needs not be a fan of “socialism” to understand that the ultimate outcome of Venezuela’s collapse will be a further concentration of power in Washington and Wall Street’s hands. Such power, regardless of whatever ideology it is superficially wielded behind, will always be abused. Regardless of the alleged form of government a nation may take, as long as it is a step away from unipolar globalization, it is a step in the right direction.

The crisis in Venezuela is not one of socialism versus capitalism or dictatorship versus democracy – it is one of hegemony versus national sovereignty, of centralized unipolar power versus an increasingly multipolar world.

A sovereign and independent Venezuela allowed to pursue its own destiny is one in which its own people will naturally seek to decentralize and distribute power. While the current government may not provide the ideal conditions to accomplish this, conditions under a US client regime – as US-wrecked Libya, Afghanistan, or Iraq prove – would be even worse.

For geopolitical analysts, moving away from ideological talking points and examining the actual government and opposition, their interests, associations, and funding, as well as their base motives reveals a much simpler and consistent narrative, one that any analyst could discern, and a discernment that will stand the test of scrutiny and time. Those entrenched in left/right ideology risk being betrayed by the government’s floundering desperation and the true nature of an opposition that most certainly is not “capitalist” or “pro-democracy.”
After the death of Chavez in 2013, US-based specia... (show quote)

An excellent open description of current events concerning Venezuela seemingly behooving a climate change of attitude by affluent America on both sides of the equator.

When honey bees swarm it's because the queen bee has emerged, this is a true story, repeat, this is a true story.

The bee's don't go far at first, they cluster around their Queen in a tree only a few metres from the hive.

Queen Guaido moved out of his hive and history shows his followers swarmed and turfed Superman out of his telephone box, a displaced Clark Kent wrote about his indignation in the Main Stream Media.

Unfortunately he didn't have time to put his pants on, but rather than admit a mistake he wrote about a new fashion with lounge coat on top and tights underneath.

Naturally it wasn't easy to understand not even for a skilled pragmatic audience and it became clear that the emperor has no clothes and Clark Kent was covering is arse by hiding this fact and also that his telephone box was sequestered by the Guaido revolution.


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Mar 3, 2019 16:53:53   #
son of witless
 
buffalo wrote:
After the death of Chavez in 2013, US-based special interests openly stepped up efforts to finally overturn the political order he built. Corporate financier policy think tank, the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) created a checklist of US foreign policy goals it sought to achieve in Venezuela. They included:

1. The ouster of narco-kingpins who now hold senior posts in government
2. The respect for a constitutional succession
3. The adoption of meaningful electoral reforms to ensure a fair campaign environment and a transparent vote count in expected presidential elections; and
4. The dismantling of Iranian and Hezbollah networks in Venezuela

In reality, AEI is talking about dismantling entirely the obstacles that have prevented the US and the corporate-financier interests that direct it, from installing a client regime and extracting entirely Venezuela’s wealth while obstructing, even dismantling the geopolitical independence and influence achieved by Chavez in Venezuela, throughout South America, and beyond.

The think tank continued by stating:

"Now is the time for US diplomats to begin a quiet dialogue with key regional powers to explain the high cost of Chávez’s criminal regime, including the impact of chavista complicity with narcotraffickers who sow mayhem in Colombia, Central America, and Mexico. Perhaps then we can convince regional leaders to show solidarity with Venezuelan democrats who want to restore a commitment to the rule of law and to rebuild an economy that can be an engine for growth in South America."

By “Venezuelan democrats,” AEI means proxies created, funded, and directed by Washington, including Primero Justicia and the street mobs and paramilitary units it commands.

More recently, another Wall Street-Washington policy think tank, the Brookings Institution, would publish in a paper titled, “Venezuela: A path out of crisis,” a 5-point plan toward escalating the crisis in Venezuela (emphasis added):

1. The United States could expand its assistance to countries that until now have been dependent on Venezuelan oil, as a means to decrease regional support for and dependence on the Maduro government.

2. The United States could increase monetary assistance to credible civil society organizations and nongovernmental organizations able to deliver food and medicines to Venezuelans. By doing so, the United States should make clear that international pressure aims to support democracy, not punish the Venezuelan people.

3. The United States could support efforts by the opposition in Venezuela to build an “off-ramp” that would split moderate elements of the government away from hardliners, encouraging the former to acquiesce to a transition to democracy by lowering their costs of exiting government.

4. The United States could coordinate with international institutions such as the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to offer financial incentives for holding free and fair elections in 2018, and for the opposition to unify and compete in those elections. Such coordination would also involve developing and publicizing a credible plan to restart Venezuela’s economy.

5. As a last resort, the United States could consider raising economic costs to the government through an expanded sanctions regime that aims to limit Venezuelan earnings from oil exports and block further financing. This policy is risky, given that the Maduro government would be able to more credibly shift blame for the economic crisis onto the United States, and should be accompanied by well-publicized efforts to deliver humanitarian aid through credible civil society and nongovernmental organizations.

While the Western media attempts to frame Venezuela’s crisis as a result of “socialism” and “dictatorship,” it is clear by reading the West’s own policy papers that it is owed instead to a systematic assault on Venezuela’s sociopolitical stability and economic viability, spanning decades.

Venezuela is not the first nation in South America that the US has sought to overturn by undermining its economy.

There is little doubt US and other nations sanctions have intentionally worsened humanitarian conditions. The main reason is that harsher sanctions imposed in mid-2017 severely curtailed Venezuela’s ability to incur debt, and in so doing decimated Venezuelan oil production. This has lessened the public resources available to an increasingly desperate population. Far from being an accidental side effect, this seems to be one of the intents of US policy: make Venezuelans so desperate that they turn against Maduro. The inhumanity of such a policy and the underlying objective is crystal clear. Control of Venezuela's oil and natural resources for corporate profits and control.

Considering America’s extensive list of illegal interventions, illegal wars, and illegal occupations it is currently involved in worldwide and the manner in which each was presented to the public – with ideology and humanitarian propaganda used to manipulate public perception, and considering Venezuela’s opposition is a documented recipient of US support, it is clear that yet another illegal intervention is under way, for the benefit of the corporate financiers.

Unipolar vs Multipolar

In a world moving toward multipolarism and greater decentralization on all levels, Venezuela’s collapse and a victory for Washington would undo an increasingly balanced distribution of geopolitical power – both in South and Central America, as well as across the world.

As a major oil producing nation, US control over its people and natural resources would further allow the US and its allies to manipulate energy prices toward achieving future goals – particularly in terms of encircling, isolating, and dismantling other centers of political power dependent on oil production for economic prosperity.

One needs not be a fan of “socialism” to understand that the ultimate outcome of Venezuela’s collapse will be a further concentration of power in Washington and Wall Street’s hands. Such power, regardless of whatever ideology it is superficially wielded behind, will always be abused. Regardless of the alleged form of government a nation may take, as long as it is a step away from unipolar globalization, it is a step in the right direction.

The crisis in Venezuela is not one of socialism versus capitalism or dictatorship versus democracy – it is one of hegemony versus national sovereignty, of centralized unipolar power versus an increasingly multipolar world.

A sovereign and independent Venezuela allowed to pursue its own destiny is one in which its own people will naturally seek to decentralize and distribute power. While the current government may not provide the ideal conditions to accomplish this, conditions under a US client regime – as US-wrecked Libya, Afghanistan, or Iraq prove – would be even worse.

For geopolitical analysts, moving away from ideological talking points and examining the actual government and opposition, their interests, associations, and funding, as well as their base motives reveals a much simpler and consistent narrative, one that any analyst could discern, and a discernment that will stand the test of scrutiny and time. Those entrenched in left/right ideology risk being betrayed by the government’s floundering desperation and the true nature of an opposition that most certainly is not “capitalist” or “pro-democracy.”
After the death of Chavez in 2013, US-based specia... (show quote)


During the Cold War we supported Democracy in the Eastern Block. This is the same thing. Venezuela has a Dictatorship oppressing it's people and stealing it's wealth. That Dictatorship is supported by America's enemies Russia, China, and Iran. To not be involved in over throwing that regime would be foolish.

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Mar 3, 2019 16:55:24   #
son of witless
 
RT friend wrote:
An excellent open description of current events concerning Venezuela seemingly behooving a climate change of attitude by affluent America on both sides of the equator.

When honey bees swarm it's because the queen bee has emerged, this is a true story, repeat, this is a true story.

The bee's don't go far at first, they cluster around their Queen in a tree only a few metres from the hive.

Queen Guaido moved out of his hive and history shows his followers swarmed and turfed Superman out of his telephone box, a displaced Clark Kent wrote about his indignation in the Main Stream Media.

Unfortunately he didn't have time to put his pants on, but rather than admit a mistake he wrote about a new fashion with lounge coat on top and tights underneath.

Naturally it wasn't easy to understand not even for a skilled pragmatic audience and it became clear that the emperor has no clothes and Clark Kent was covering is arse by hiding this fact and also that his telephone box was sequestered by the Guaido revolution.

An excellent open description of current events co... (show quote)


Clarity.

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Mar 3, 2019 17:57:07   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
son of witless wrote:
Clarity.


US is alone in the World backing a Trojan horse overtly known to be empty, check out Chinese Trade with Brazil, China will strangle Bolsonaro and China is already enacting concrete measures to strangle Australia.

US has nothing but pseudo support coming from Europe, only Canada and Australia will commit for the sacrificial long haul, New Zealand's Socialist, Australia will be in a couple of months and Justin Trudeau is not popular, Trump is popular but probably not for long, Trump got popular by stealing Socialist anti-war thunder that Bernie Sanders is now reclaiming.

The extream right wing is polarised on both sides of the pro Global anti Global fence, check out Red Ice and Adam Green on Know More News and compare them to Murdock's Fox News (although 21st. Century Fox is publically traded), if you doubt that comparison, check out Italy thumbing their nose in the IMF's face this could be the future of identity politics.

China and North Korea spitting on Trump in Vietnam.

Rodrigo Duterte distancing himself even further from US Foreign Policy concerning China.

South Korea and Japan both approaching a Nuclear Free Peninsula in step with each other while the US has agreed to end annual war games having gained nothing in return, Japan wanting an end to US occupation, Germany doing the same.

Germany ignoring Trump's economic dictates treating them as a joke.

Polish anti-Iran conference a US embarrassment.

The Globalist International Establishment want Trump to press on, he is the only politician responsible for what will be a guaranteed catastrophe south of the border, the Globalists want to win they don't care how they can win with Democrats just as effectively as GOP.

However bloody miracles do happen in which case the Plutocrats will make Trump their expendable Champion but answer this, how can Trump be the Champion ?, Why everyone knows I am the Champion and I'm not expendable.

That's my assessment given in good Faith, a game changing war is not possible and a drawn out struggle will see China offer much much more than the US could ever hope to match, poor Nations want iPhones they can afford, also don't forget that I am the Representative of Fate and faith and fate are the same thing for a Solipsist, you can't win I'm worse than Trump. (Solipsism is the belief that only my self is able to be proven to exist, its the quality of being self centred or selfish)


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Mar 3, 2019 18:05:24   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
During the Cold War we supported Democracy in the Eastern Block. This is the same thing. Venezuela has a Dictatorship oppressing it's people and stealing it's wealth. That Dictatorship is supported by America's enemies Russia, China, and Iran. To not be involved in over throwing that regime would be foolish.


Another believer/victim of US ideological and humanitarian propaganda who can't see that it is the US who is engaging in illegal economic warfare against Venezuela causing the economic and humanitarian crisis. The illegal sanctions imposed by the US are what is preventing Venezuela from being able to borrow money, the US has seized billions of dollars in assets connected to Venezuelas's state-owned oil company, PDVSA, a primary source of income and foreign currency for the country and is funneling them to US puppet Guaido. And of course the US is threatening military action if Maduro (Venezuela's democratically elected President) doesn't step down and let the US install a friendly puppet regime, something the US is known for around the world.

All of this and more done intentionally by Washington and its corporate financiers to gain control of Venezuela's vast oil and resource reserves for their exploitation. It is NOT a matter of socialism vs capitalism or dictatorship vs democracy-- it is one of hegemony versus national sovereignty, of centralized unipolar power versus an increasingly multipolar world.

The US cares nothing of political ideologies or how brutal a dictator might be to hi own people as long as he follows in lock-step to the wishes of corporations and their oligarchs.

The EMPIRE strikes again!

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Mar 3, 2019 18:10:43   #
son of witless
 
buffalo wrote:
Another believer/victim of US ideological and humanitarian propaganda who can't see that it is the US who is engaging in illegal economic warfare against Venezuela causing the economic and humanitarian crisis. The illegal sanctions imposed by the US are what is preventing Venezuela from being able to borrow money, the US has seized billions of dollars in assets connected to Venezuelas's state-owned oil company, PDVSA, a primary source of income and foreign currency for the country and is funneling them to US puppet Guaido. And of course the US is threatening military action if Maduro (Venezuela's democratically elected President) doesn't step down and let the US install a friendly puppet regime, something the US is known for around the world.

All of this and more done intentionally by Washington and its corporate financiers to gain control of Venezuela's vast oil and resource reserves for their exploitation. It is NOT a matter of socialism vs capitalism or dictatorship vs democracy-- it is one of hegemony versus national sovereignty, of centralized unipolar power versus an increasingly multipolar world.

The US cares nothing of political ideologies or how brutal a dictator might be to hi own people as long as he follows in lock-step to the wishes of corporations and their oligarchs.

The EMPIRE strikes again!
Another believer/victim of US ideological and huma... (show quote)


Do you support leaving Maduro in charge of Venezuela ? Did you support Chavez ? If you are and were please send food and toilet paper to that country.

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Mar 3, 2019 21:27:08   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
Do you support leaving Maduro in charge of Venezuela ? Did you support Chavez ? If you are and were please send food and toilet paper to that country.


You do realize the US has been interfering in the internal affairs of Venezuela for years. In 2002 bushie instigated coup that, though it briefly deposed Chavez, ultimately failed. 10 years later, the US imperialist ruling class tried their hand at regime change in Venezuela again. The ruling elite in the US hated Chavez for numerous reasons. Chavez was the leading international voice of US anti-imperialism and resistance to US hegemony. He led the transformation of much of Latin America from little more than US markets for exploitation to independent nations capable of managing their own affairs. Because of Venezuela's vast (largest in the world) oil reserves Chavez had leverage over greedy western oil corporations and they hated that fact. Chavez represented was an example to other Latin American countries that desired to persue an independent, socialist path of development which of course was anathema to the ruling and corporate elite in the US. And yep, he developed political and economic relations with Russia, China\, Iran, Cuba and other countries the US perceived as their enemies.

Chavez related on several occasions he admired the people of the US, it was the ruling class of the US, the same ruling class that exploited and oppressed Venezuela and the rest of Latin America for decades, which he despised which dispelled the distortions and lies told by the mainstream media in the US. His successful socialist polices in combating poverty, illiteracy, racism, oppression of indigenous peoples, infant mortality and countless other indicators of social progress, of course, made him US' public enemy number one.

As Eric Draitser wrote in Stopimperialism.com in 2012:

"Hugo Chavez has come to symbolize everything that the US imperialist ruling class despises: independent economic development, independent foreign policy, and a deep commitment to social justice. He has openly challenged, not just the US Empire, but imperialism in all its forms. Moreover, Chavez represents a viable future for Latin America, one that is free of the chains of US bondage. For these reasons, the ruling class is set on trying for regime change once more. Anti-imperialists the world over must stand now and defend Chavez and the Bolivarian Revolution, not because we agree or disagree with all of its tenets, but because it stands in opposition to empire, colonialism, and domination."

Now the US, starting with his oliness, is at it again. The sanctions and confiscation of Venezuelan assets in the US and using them to support Guaido, who would be another US puppet, is causing devastating humanitarian suffering in Venezuela despite the lies of the corporate controlled US media. Maduro was democratically elected and the US should mind its own fv(k!n9 business and stop doing the bidding of greedy corporations and their oligarch!

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Mar 4, 2019 15:03:29   #
son of witless
 
buffalo wrote:
You do realize the US has been interfering in the internal affairs of Venezuela for years. In 2002 bushie instigated coup that, though it briefly deposed Chavez, ultimately failed. 10 years later, the US imperialist ruling class tried their hand at regime change in Venezuela again. The ruling elite in the US hated Chavez for numerous reasons. Chavez was the leading international voice of US anti-imperialism and resistance to US hegemony. He led the transformation of much of Latin America from little more than US markets for exploitation to independent nations capable of managing their own affairs. Because of Venezuela's vast (largest in the world) oil reserves Chavez had leverage over greedy western oil corporations and they hated that fact. Chavez represented was an example to other Latin American countries that desired to persue an independent, socialist path of development which of course was anathema to the ruling and corporate elite in the US. And yep, he developed political and economic relations with Russia, China\, Iran, Cuba and other countries the US perceived as their enemies.

Chavez related on several occasions he admired the people of the US, it was the ruling class of the US, the same ruling class that exploited and oppressed Venezuela and the rest of Latin America for decades, which he despised which dispelled the distortions and lies told by the mainstream media in the US. His successful socialist polices in combating poverty, illiteracy, racism, oppression of indigenous peoples, infant mortality and countless other indicators of social progress, of course, made him US' public enemy number one.

As Eric Draitser wrote in Stopimperialism.com in 2012:

"Hugo Chavez has come to symbolize everything that the US imperialist ruling class despises: independent economic development, independent foreign policy, and a deep commitment to social justice. He has openly challenged, not just the US Empire, but imperialism in all its forms. Moreover, Chavez represents a viable future for Latin America, one that is free of the chains of US bondage. For these reasons, the ruling class is set on trying for regime change once more. Anti-imperialists the world over must stand now and defend Chavez and the Bolivarian Revolution, not because we agree or disagree with all of its tenets, but because it stands in opposition to empire, colonialism, and domination."

Now the US, starting with his oliness, is at it again. The sanctions and confiscation of Venezuelan assets in the US and using them to support Guaido, who would be another US puppet, is causing devastating humanitarian suffering in Venezuela despite the lies of the corporate controlled US media. Maduro was democratically elected and the US should mind its own fv(k!n9 business and stop doing the bidding of greedy corporations and their oligarch!
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Do you even have a clue how bad things are in Venezuela ? Do you ? It is not the fault of the United States of America. Chavez and Maduro took over, ran sham elections, jailed their opponents, and ruined the Venezuelan economy.

As soon as you began talking American Imperialism, I tuned you out. You really really really need to research how bad life has been for citizens of Venezuela.

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Mar 4, 2019 15:07:54   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
Do you even have a clue how bad things are in Venezuela ? Do you ? It is not the fault of the United States of America. Chavez and Maduro took over, ran sham elections, jailed their opponents, and ruined the Venezuelan economy.

As soon as you began talking American Imperialism, I tuned you out. You really really really need to research how bad life has been for citizens of Venezuela.

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Mar 4, 2019 16:26:44   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
Do you even have a clue how bad things are in Venezuela ? Do you ? It is not the fault of the United States of America. Chavez and Maduro took over, ran sham elections, jailed their opponents, and ruined the Venezuelan economy.

As soon as you began talking American Imperialism, I tuned you out. You really really really need to research how bad life has been for citizens of Venezuela.


Yes, I have a clue and the "bad things" economically are in large part due to the actions of the US.
Inhumane sanctions, seizures and freezing of assets, then redirecting them to the self declared presidential usurper pro US and US backed Guaido.

What valid basis do you have that the elections of Chavez and Maduro were anything but peaceful, fair and transparent other than the propaganda and lies of the corporate controlled US lapdog media? Maduro was elected by 2/3 majority.

The US, which seems to be governed more and more by presidential executive orders, since his oliness and now trumpy, without any evidence to the contrary, declared them invalid and immediately forced more sanctions against Venezuela directed at curtailing crucial financial interactions with the Venezuelan State with the intention of “making the economy scream”, as famously stated in the case of Chile in the 1970s.

Oh, I see, rather than hear the truth about American Imperialism you just "stick your fingers in your ears and hum real loud", "stick your head in the sand", eh? The ugly reality behind the mirror is that the U.S. government has a long and unbroken record of working with fascists, dictators, druglords and state sponsors of terrorism in every region of the world in its elusive but relentless quest for unchallenged global hegemony and power and corporate exploitation.

The US government has no interest in protecting democracy or improving the humanitarian crisis, the US is responsible for, in Venezuela, and is mostly concerned with taking control of the oil market and maintaining US influence in Latin America. The sanctions on PDVSA freeze the company's assets in the US, as well as prohibits US firms and citizens from conducting business with PDVSA. According to the Treasury Department's guidance, purchases can be made from PDVSA or its entities until April 28 provided that the payments are made into a blocked account that Maduro's government cannot access.

In fact, you hide and watch, the illegal sanctions the US has levied against Venezuela's state oil company, PDVSA, will cause gasoline prices to rise for US consumers.

For years, the US has sought to overthrow the Venezuelan government partly because of the way Maduro and his predecessor Hugo Chavez have used oil as an "instrument of countering US hegemony" in the Western Hemisphere. It is also no secret that Chavez and Maduro have angered the US by seeking stronger economic relations with Iran, China and Russia.

The US' sole purpose is to make Venezuela's economy fail and force regime change to a more pro-US one. Of course, if that doesn't work the standard US response to effect regime change will be a military one.

The US political monkeys and their organ grinding corporations need to let Venezuela buy and sell like everyone else and mind it own fv(k!n9 business and maybe worry more about election interference and fraud here at home!

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Mar 4, 2019 16:41:40   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Breaking news Spain had swapped sides for all practical purposes Pedro Sanchez is now with Italy again for all practical purposes supporting Mudaro that will mean a lot in Latin America.

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Mar 4, 2019 16:43:40   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
Do you even have a clue how bad things are in Venezuela ? Do you ? It is not the fault of the United States of America. Chavez and Maduro took over, ran sham elections, jailed their opponents, and ruined the Venezuelan economy.

As soon as you began talking American Imperialism, I tuned you out. You really really really need to research how bad life has been for citizens of Venezuela.


How many humanitarian crisis around the world has the US ignored because there was no oil or other natural resources for US corporations to exploit?

How many humanitarian crisis has the US manufactured in order to expoit a country's oil or natural resources?

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