son of witless

You American Liberal-Progressives are in good company. I guess Maduro is betting on Bad Bob Mueller to take down Trump and save him.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/venezuelas-muduro-mocks-trump-opposition-leader-vows-to-never-surrender

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Not much of a video, but the word colonization stands out, that can't happen, for one reason, before 1998 Venezuela was a basket case a few X N**ies that were brought over by the Jesuites after the war, operation Odessa, (a good documentary "The Mystery of Odessa" Alexander 1V.

These people made an already very violent society much more violent.

That's who wants to replace the Gov. of Venezuela, Trump is the biggest mug on earth supporting these losers.

The millions of poor people many of them indigenous liberated from literal starvation before 1998 will not let the N**ies take over again.

You don't believe that watch and see Trump turn into a object of ridicule.

He like Obama in Syria just hasn't got a clue, but Trump hasn't go anyone to pass the baton to the buck stops at the fall guy and is buried with him.

son of witless

Chavez ran Venezuela into the ground. Maduro is his successor. So do you think we should not try to replace him ?

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Not true, all Latin America was like in Queen Victoria's days, - (she was also Empress of India) - Britain was the wealthiest Nation and the chimney sweeps were "not" repeat "not" singing the praises of the Queen, a Sweep was "not" as lucky as lucky can be, they were Church mice, pick pockets, wretched human beings hoping for anything that wasn't painful.

Next century, Argentina was the highest standard of living measured by GDP per Capita this was at the turn of the 19th. to 20 th. Century and to work as a Gaucho was a commitment to singing the praises of the boss who really was his Lord, and grovel they did and do.

What happened in South American Society was largely that the Conquistadors contempt for the indigenous people was t***sferred to European settler peasants, in the US and Australia it didn't pan out that way because we in Australia had the Eureka Stockade Ned Kelly and a hatred of aristocracy.

In the US it was, according to the pragmatist John Dewey - (a Democratic Socialist) - it was Darwinism as a logical expression of a cognitive society coupled with the Wild Wild West legends, and I think as a modest practicing Existentialist thinker myself it was Alphonse Gabriel Capone and others like him expressing a contempt for Authority and needing to be contained by Eliot Ness type characterisations with Hollywood plugging him up and everybody wanting to adopt similar opinions and identity.

Latin America never had the cult of the individual, it was always the Lord with infinite requirements needed to be met by orders given.

Venezuela before Chavez was a hell hole with only Lords and Minions.

I usually don't get emotional but this could turn out bad real bad, Guaido can't win, he's reflecting a narrow White Supremely that worked while the Oriental Slavic Nations were supporting US policy and divvying up State Property amongst themselves, while China was practicing soft power.

Also there was growth potential in the 1990's provided by cheap high quality products, now I think that growth, maybe, has to come from austerity and privatization, so, as if that would not be enough to cope with, on top of that, Trump wants to stay in Syria firing off the odd batch of missiles following the orders of a deeply flawed politician Netanyahu, Obama at least got that right, the Dems are now seemingly the alternative to total collapse.

But I'm not here to be confrontational I'm retired however the freedom I enjoy has a responsibility to be protected because of where it came from, the main media outlets in our Countries are going beyond all logica restraints put in place by what has recently been accepted as t***hfulness.

I went through the Cold War with my eyes open, the C****es were never treated with such disrespect as the media is treating Maduro who has enormous capabilities, furthermore no other i***t including Hitler and Mussolini "began" a war by declaring their mercantile Interests as paramount ; Bolton is criminally insane.

son of witless

" But I'm not here to be confrontational I'm retired "

I am semi retired and I am here to be confrontational, but I do observe rules. Your post is full of things I wish to rip apart. That is not a bad thing. I do not come here to speak to those I 100 % agree with. I come here to test my ideas against yours' and anyone else who will do me the honor of answering me.

This is one of the very few forums left where opposites can fight it out rhetorically without fighting it out literally. I do not care what your viewpoints are. I will listen to your ideas and where I disagree I will try to show you where you are wrong. If you will show me the same courtesies, we can try to solve the problems of the World.

You started out with a history of Latin America. I am a student of history and I do not disagree with your approach, except I question the relevance of mentioning Great Britain. Most of Latin America, including Venezuela was settled by Spain and Portugal. The only relevance would be to examine the differences in outcomes generally between the former colonies of Britain, Spain, and Portugal.

English speaking former colonies have a better track record than the former colonies of Spain and Portugal in developing into functioning Democracies and maintaining those freedoms.

Even this is not all that relevant because what is important is the difference between pre Chavez and post Chavez Venezuela. Chavez was a Marxist. Marxists are always a disaster. Maduro is a Marxist. Until the Marxists are expelled nothing good can happen in Venezuela.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

To me all rottenness begins with Britain, Sir Francis Drake was the beginning of the era of s***ery that dramatically changed America which was in 1502 when the first s***es arrived in South America, this was the greatest forced migration ever, Drake was the harbinger of terrorism attached to Empire, and the greatest ideological migration from Europe to the American Continent was National Socialism with its cultural attachments.

A possible metaphor, Drake Terror / Mussolini racial hatred.

Racial hatred as we know it today began overtly with Mussolini's Colonization of Ethiopia and Libya (Libya was started as a Italian colony a bit before Mussolini).

So National Socialism with its grotesque racial hatred attachments came with a vengeance after WW2, and we have the true stories uncovered by N**i H****rs that I began my post with, it's personal and I don't sell it as a view of history neither is OPP a history platform. But I see your point.

I think the British East India Company gave British Colonies a better perspective compared to Spanish and Portuguese Colonies because the idea of a great overwhelming force, that certainly was victorious, instilled a FORMALITY that wasn't possible in Spanish and Portuguese Colonies.

This was the same point I was making about Australia and the US being better because that Successful Formality t***slated culturally into stable proud social attributes.

Powerful people and organisations are by nature good things that can be used for bad, the bigger the good, the bigger the possible bad that can come from them, Britain and France was in my view are the MOAB, just change bomb for bad and that's what I think.

About Marxism becoming the Trump Bogeyman, hahahaha, there were 2 crazy leaders in the World Netanyahu and Modi now there are 3 what have they all got in common ?, Desperation.

Check out some Yale University Lectures on the topic of Marxism the Discipline and you see it can't be redefined as a red scare, because it's the economics of egalitarianism that has all other economic theories including Keynesian, Monetarism, Austrian School calibrated from.

The problum with Capitalism as Confucius pointed out is that there is no way to redistribute wealth that must concentrate and also Capitalism must have an inexhaustible growth capacity, so the ones at the top can by means, fair and foul, keep the second tier happy.

Marxism was the first ideology of the lower stratum of society having a justification for their influence on the system of wealth creation and distribution, C*******m is different, C*******m is the control of the system of wealth creation and distribution.

The s***e class rose up once or twice established coercion but had no means of creating a social fabric, this is historically true to Confucianism.

The US as can all wealthy Nations can by many means, - but I will mention one, which is the "continually deteriorating terms of trade", - pay the up-and-coming second tier capitalists if they can't get away with just telling them stupid stories.

Trump doesn't tell convincing stories, stupid ones yes.

However this is not universal as it requires great power exerted on weak Nations to accomplish, and to try to make it permanent even by a great power is a guaranteed failure, Obama to his credit was the first United States President to say, well, -- arrr, -- hummmmm, " there are just not enough resources in the World for everyone to live like us".

Now Trump's ideas are being interpreted as White Supremacism.

This means Obama's Cultural abysmal intellectual failures will rapidly expand.

Trump stand up and take a bow then take off the Red Light District for a pat on the back.

sbv0130

That's OK, we have no compassion for a dictator like Maduro, nor any other authoritarian figure for that matter. I'm surprised Trump did not support him like he does Kim, Putin, Erdogan, and Duterte.

son of witless

You and I are on opposite sides of nearly every point of discussion. I fail to see what the s***e trade has to do with modern day Venezuelan problems, but since you have gone there I wish to say that I believe you are mistaken in what you say about Great Britain and the s***e trade.

The early s***e trade to America was pioneered by the Portuguese and the Spanish. Great Britain was late to that party. They dominated the trade later on, but you have your facts wrong. You say that Drake and the British started the s***e trade in 1502. That is impossible. Sir Francis Drake was born in 1540 and was not active until around 1563.

Spain and Portugal had 97 % of the European s***e trade until 1640. After that the British, French and Dutch became much more involved.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Venezuelan problems are contemporary and so we both witness Donald Trump's strategy for self glorification taking on the history of cognition in Venezuela, I just made the relevant historical analogies that are pertinent to current events.

Mainly because I too want my name to go ringing down through the generations like Ned Kelly.

Now listen up, because the British Colonial era was the worst period of Human privations on the greatest scale, all deliberately inflicted by the greed of the British and French Aristocracy, I can achieve my aims simply by pointing stuff out..

We all know it was the Pope that granted the Portugese West Africa and also it was the Pope that decreed only the Portugese could sell S***es in the Spanish Colonies , but Drake from 1560 to 1568 was a part of that S***e Trade and it was Drake who claimed California for the British.

The current Spanish Socialist Government now supports the Venezuelan regime change but it didn't instigate it, so they won't have hardly anything to do with the failure of Venezuela, they just want to keep in good with Trump, and I don't think the Portugese are in any way interested at all.

The US hadn't begun when Drake was selling s***es on the Spanish Main, so for the vast majority of coloured Venezuelans the historical link is with Britain.

The Trump campaign got it all wrong, Venezuela is being unpacked by the Democrats as a white r****t supremacism, sure they will support Guaido till he's exposed as meaningless and then blame Trump for the fiasco, rightly so too.

This is also true in the Middle East, with Israel deporting Africans and ramping up Kushner's Ashken**i Jew dogmas against the Shefardi.

That's the narrative that Trump is now responsible for, the vast majority of Venezuelans are supporting Maduro and in the Miiddle East the Jews both European and Mediterranean are totally segregated from all their neighbours, with Israel becoming overtly identified as a White European interloper..

All this can be traced back to the British and French but mainly the British.

Drake was not able to pursue S***e Trading after 1568 because the Pope said no it was a Portuguese monopoly, so Drake and his business partner and cousin Hawkins split up, Hawkins took the diplomatic approach and Drake began State Sponsored Terrorism.

The Wealth of Nations changed because the State of the Military Naval Art downsized from Big Slow Ships to Smaller Fast Ships and Britain became the Unipolar Power.

The recent Venezuelan border demonstrations are almost mirror images of the final years of Papal dominance after which Drake began the Age of British Colonialism, encompassing the worst human privations ever witnessed on Earth.

The culture of British Colonial S***ery Era could easily be repeated in South America as White Supremacism tries to hold on to its privlige.

son of witless

You know for a guy who said " But I'm not here to be confrontational I'm retired " you are doing well.

What did the British do to you anyway ? Your hatred of them seems out of proportion to the historical facts. They sure were not angels, but compared to other great empires, I do not think they were all that bad.

You seemed to have hijacked my Venezuelan topic with your anti British rantings. However, since nobody else has joined the conversation, who am I to complain ? I will say that I am anti Marxist like you are anti British. I blame that v***s for most of the post WW2 evil in the World. From Alexandria Occasio-Cortez to Barak Insane Obama to Hugo Chavez to Nancy Pelosi, I see Marxist evil.

Oh but you wish to only British bash. Well other than those little tiffs in 1776 and 1812 I don't see what America has to complain about the British. They are our Mother Country. We were British until the Revolution. Our model for government came from British history. I mean thank God we weren't a Spanish colony, or else we would be Venezuela.

Oh, I just thought of more grist for your anti Brit mill. Forget about the Colombians, at least in the 19th century the biggest drug dealers were the British. However, once again the British were only followers. The Portuguese pioneered the opium trade in the early 1700s into China. The British took over that trade. Growing the evil stuff in India, they flooded China with it. They helped destroy Chinese culture.

Before we Americans get all high and mighty about British drug dealing, I need to point out that the United States also dealt Indian opium to China as well as Turkish Opium.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

I have a question, - Since reality was a departure from perfection and then existence always has tried to return, why didn't Great Britain become even greater ?.

That's like asking what role did Fate play in modern history, so why did the Soviet Union prevail until c***ted out of its existence by Fate who was actually Pope John Paul hoodwinking the Russian Orthodox that the West really wanted to be friends ?.

Don't hold back nobody is reading this thread.

Why did Hitler respond to Polish provocation when the whole world was backing him to invade the East, Hitler's policy of Lebensraum also known as eastern expansion erasing the need for German living space which was the fundamental of N**i racial policy established in the 1930's by the F*****ts and common to German folk-law and also a component of German Unification under Bismarck, Lebensraum was the broad German conviction that the resources of the East were being wasted on Slavs and Jews.

So why did Germany abandon the obvious Eastward migration? and an even better question, why did Churchill fight a war that no-one in the West wanted?.

Why did God support the Soviet Union, if not to create a threat to the Australian Government thereby forcing the Australian Government to build Housing Estates for low income workers, to give Free Health Care, Free Education, Subsidised Rail T***sport, Water, and Electricity and above all else a generous Retirement Pension, for me.

As I'm getting on in years and won't be needing the pension after not too long it's obvious God did it all for the making and breaking of the Soviet Union, so when the Soviet Union ended the threat to the Australian Government would also be gone, and then all the benefits Stalin bestowed on others in order to provide for me would come to an end, how sad, but not for me.

This is what I can't understand doesn't everybody wants to be as blessed as I am and if they do why aren't they Socialists?.

son of witless

You have made many more points than I wish to respond to. I am not sure if you are serious or whether you are playing an amazingly clever joke on lil ole me.

In other words, do you believe what you are writing ? Are you just messing with me ?

Well lets us assume that you are serious. " Since reality was a departure from perfection and then existence always has tried to return, why didn't Great Britain become even greater ?. "

The military, financial, and territorial Zenith of the British Empire would have occurred in the century from 1815 to 1914. Basically from the defeat of Napoleon until WW1. It did not become greater because it ran into competitors that also wished to become great. After the defeat of Napoleonic France, it's first serious competitor was an old ally, Russia. By the latter part of the 19th century Russia, like that other old enemy France, became a friend against the new enemy Imperial Germany.

WW1 was the beginning of the end of the British Empire. So much Blood and Treasure was expended that the British Empire would never be the top power or even the second top power in the World. WW2 was the end of the Empire. The US and the USSR took control of the globe.

China has replaced the USSR as America's only serious competitor for World Domination. The US Navy has replaced the Royal Navy as the Policeman of the high seas.

" so why did the Soviet Union prevail until c***ted out of its existence by Fate who was actually Pope John Paul hoodwinking the Russian Orthodox that the West really wanted to be friends ?. "

The Soviet Union collapsed of it's own corruption and central planning. I am totally amazed that it lasted 7 decades. Only the genius and natural vitality of the Russian People can explain how a nation burdened by the worst form of leadership and government could have risen to Superpower Status, defeated the N**i Juggernaut, and did not implode until the early nineties.

" Why did Hitler respond to Polish provocation when the whole world was backing him to invade the East, "

Hitler attacked Poland to conquer it.

" why did Churchill fight a war that no-one in the West wanted?."

Because Hitler wanted to destroy Great Britain.

I think that is enough fun for now.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Today is Clean up Australia Day so I can't reply just yet, but if you promise to keep it to yourself I'm "RT Loder" that's my real name also I'm also on Quora as Terry Loder, that's my second name Terence.

Maybe I'm cultivating you to perchance read one or two of my posts and possibly give me an up v**e on Quora, or even more secretive, if you read any of my millions of posts on Southfront, Russian Insider and al-Monitor, you might not want to continue the Historical Discussion, but I ask you this, is it my fault I was born Jesus Christ, it's a rhetorical question, arrrr well, I must go clean up Australia.

son of witless

Australia you say. Is that why you h**e the British ? Are you Aussies like the Scots of William Walace's time ? Did the English rape, pillage, and murder their way across your country ? Are you like the crazy Irishman in Braveheart ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrJCDhf5N7k

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Nothing like that. This is history, the history of Theology, Marx advocated a progress of emancipation but Theological reasoning he skipped, not that there were any rewards in them days, or frequent flyer points, so everyone missed out, anyhow Marx changed his mind so it's safe to assume he cottoned on in the end, and I give him the benefit of the doubt.

Never saw Brave Heart instead I studied what Marx though was beyond usefulness and low and behold what I came across the cognitive development of Theology.

To my surprise every new absolute stood out as the limelight projected by the shadows only to be replaced by a greater shadow projecting a lesser absolute with a brighter limelight.

The Epic of Gilgamesh brought the deluge that was preceded by the Aryian migration South to escape the ice age, so the fire of Prophet Zathushtra was quenched by Gilgamesh's flood narrative, then the Hindu and Greeks opted for absolute anything while Prophet Abraham was guided by the limelight projected by their mistakes.

However the shadows persisted and the Prophet King was impossible to replicate so the Messiah Event replaced what the British, - which includes the Scotts and Irish, - now assume to be what they can make happen disregarding everything else, they figure everything has a price including reality haha haha imbeciles.

So I re-introduced the after-life which preceded the Aryian migration, the after-life was the something Gilgamesh was looking for, if he did but know it.

However it didn't catch on making the second coming of Christ doomed from the start, otherwise I'd have to die and come back immediately to get any credibility, and who would want to associate with the living dead, could be that's why I'm a hermit.

Faced with this development God sent down the Qur'anic injunction written in plain Arabic which saved me from Satan.

But when you think about it the Mahdi could only come from a failed Christ otherwise the Christians wouldn't know that they are the shadows.


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