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Feb 26, 2019 13:34:48   #
woodguru
 
buffalo wrote:
Military industrial corporations, their stockholders, and Wall Street banksters have been getting richer for years promoting this propaganda.


Deep state is real and this isn't? Why not, you have facts turned inside out anyway.

I had a compartmentalized top secret clearance in nuclear missile systems, and know a bit more about deployment and actuarial statistics than most. The very real threat that most needs to be talked about has been recently and openly disclosed by intelligence because it is falling on deaf ears with Trump...Trump doesn't seem to be paying anymore attention than anyone else. It is a focused and well targeted use of air burst nukes that is part of a combined country attack on the US. There is a difference between conspiracy theories and very credible threats that need to be taken seriously. We are vulnerable to cyber attacks, and a few strategic air bursts damages our infrastructure to where it is beyond catastrophic, most people have no idea of the vulnerability or the reality of the results.

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Feb 26, 2019 13:50:20   #
Rose42
 
woodguru wrote:
Deep state is real and this isn't? Why not, you have facts turned inside out anyway.

I had a compartmentalized top secret clearance in nuclear missile systems, and know a bit more about deployment and actuarial statistics than most. The very real threat that most needs to be talked about has been recently and openly disclosed by intelligence because it is falling on deaf ears with Trump...Trump doesn't seem to be paying anymore attention than anyone else. It is a focused and well targeted use of air burst nukes that is part of a combined country attack on the US. There is a difference between conspiracy theories and very credible threats that need to be taken seriously. We are vulnerable to cyber attacks, and a few strategic air bursts damages our infrastructure to where it is beyond catastrophic, most people have no idea of the vulnerability or the reality of the results.
Deep state is real and this isn't? Why not, you ha... (show quote)


You weren't in the military were you?

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Feb 26, 2019 14:16:34   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
zillaorange wrote:
As per James Shannon, Senior Chief U. S. Navy, there's confusion re: hyper sonic & cruise missiles (tomahawk). Both the Russians & Chinese developed these hypersonics to counter U. S. Carrier Groups Something both are sorely lacking ! You can check it yourself ! I gave you the name of the source of info.


I'm not confused. What is your point? They have little to nothing which we didn't have first except for nukes for an entire state. LOL!

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Feb 26, 2019 14:29:38   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
zillaorange wrote:
The Rusks broke the treaty by developing hypersonic missles ! We supposed to sit on our duffs, doing NOTHING, while they develpoe & deploy new weapons ??? Give me a break !!!


Z, when raygun and gorbi signed the 1987 INF Treaty, NATO "promised" not to expand into Eastern Europe. Of course NATO immediately started its eastward expansion. Russia complained when the United States deployed several Tomahawk-capable launchers at NATO bases in Romania and Poland. That was the first step that the USA made to violate the terms of the agreement. This was before trumpy's declaration.

The US under his oliness' reign instigated and finance a coupe in the Ukraine against its democratically elected president because he was pro-Russian and installed a US/western friendly puppet.

Now against all the the US and NATO have done in violation of the INF treaty of which there is irrefutable proof, the US has no such evidence of Russia actually violating the treaty, only accusations. However, the US has never worried much about the need to base its decisions on evidence - suffice it to recall the bombing of Yugoslavia or the invasion of Iraq and Libya.

Just as long as the military industrial corporations and their banksters are happy and making BILLIONS.

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Feb 26, 2019 14:37:44   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
buffalo wrote:
Z, when raygun and gorbi signed the 1987 INF Treaty, NATO "promised" not to expand into Eastern Europe. Of course NATO immediately started its eastward expansion. Russia complained when the United States deployed several Tomahawk-capable launchers at NATO bases in Romania and Poland. That was the first step that the USA made to violate the terms of the agreement. This was before trumpy's declaration.

The US under his oliness' reign instigated and finance a coupe in the Ukraine against its democratically elected president because he was pro-Russian and installed a US/western friendly puppet.

Now against all the the US and NATO have done in violation of the INF treaty of which there is irrefutable proof, the US has no such evidence of Russia actually violating the treaty, only accusations. However, the US has never worried much about the need to base its decisions on evidence - suffice it to recall the bombing of Yugoslavia or the invasion of Iraq and Libya.

Just as long as the military industrial corporations and their banksters are happy and making BILLIONS.
Z, when raygun and gorbi signed the 1987 INF Trea... (show quote)


Once again, these are truths which need to be made big time public. The deployment of treaty violating launchers was Bush's thing, if I am not mistaken.

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Feb 26, 2019 19:19:37   #
zillaorange
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Once again, these are truths which need to be made big time public. The deployment of treaty violating launchers was Bush's thing, if I am not mistaken.


What I'm trying to point out is we have Trump in the W.H. Not exactly a polit, but a slickster none the less. I like what he's saying but we'll have to wait & see what really happens ! When he decided to pull out of Afganistan, he did so without talking to the military hierarchy, which was a bad move ! Don't get me wrong, I want as many of our military home as we can get. As far as I'm concerned the C.I.C SHOULD HAVE A MILITARY BACKGROUND ! Not just N. Y. Military Academy !!! When Putin talks about a "New Cuban Missile Crisis" I think it's a good idea to pay attention !

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Feb 26, 2019 19:30:36   #
zillaorange
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Once again, these are truths which need to be made big time public. The deployment of treaty violating launchers was Bush's thing, if I am not mistaken.


If you're talking about W, he also signed off on the Patriot Act. Probably 1 of the biggest assaults on the Constitution ! As I've repeatedly said, the polits have created their own "class" & think WE, U.S. work for them !!! The s , is very shaky ! The markets a joke, the numbers are fudged ! Put it all together & see if you might also think the s is flaky ! There will be another economic bust !!!

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Feb 26, 2019 19:33:15   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
zillaorange wrote:
What I'm trying to point out is we have Trump in the W.H. Not exactly a polit, but a slickster none the less. I like what he's saying but we'll have to wait & see what really happens ! When he decided to pull out of Afganistan, he did so without talking to the military hierarchy, which was a bad move ! Don't get me wrong, I want as many of our military home as we can get. As far as I'm concerned the C.I.C SHOULD HAVE A MILITARY BACKGROUND ! Not just N. Y. Military Academy !!! When Putin talks about a "New Cuban Missile Crisis" I think it's a good idea to pay attention !
What I'm trying to point out is we have Trump in t... (show quote)


Absolutely. Putin is sending a message. Trump had better listen. I don't anticipate military action but Putin wants something, for sure.

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Feb 26, 2019 19:39:27   #
zillaorange
 
woodguru wrote:
Deep state is real and this isn't? Why not, you have facts turned inside out anyway.

I had a compartmentalized top secret clearance in nuclear missile systems, and know a bit more about deployment and actuarial statistics than most. The very real threat that most needs to be talked about has been recently and openly disclosed by intelligence because it is falling on deaf ears with Trump...Trump doesn't seem to be paying anymore attention than anyone else. It is a focused and well targeted use of air burst nukes that is part of a combined country attack on the US. There is a difference between conspiracy theories and very credible threats that need to be taken seriously. We are vulnerable to cyber attacks, and a few strategic air bursts damages our infrastructure to where it is beyond catastrophic, most people have no idea of the vulnerability or the reality of the results.
Deep state is real and this isn't? Why not, you ha... (show quote)


Thank you

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Feb 26, 2019 19:44:26   #
zillaorange
 
Yeah, Yahoo, Google, Brave are good starting points. Then you can start digging on your own !

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Feb 26, 2019 20:04:06   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
zillaorange wrote:
What I'm trying to point out is we have Trump in the W.H. Not exactly a polit, but a slickster none the less. I like what he's saying but we'll have to wait & see what really happens ! When he decided to pull out of Afganistan, he did so without talking to the military hierarchy, which was a bad move ! Don't get me wrong, I want as many of our military home as we can get. As far as I'm concerned the C.I.C SHOULD HAVE A MILITARY BACKGROUND ! Not just N. Y. Military Academy !!! When Putin talks about a "New Cuban Missile Crisis" I think it's a good idea to pay attention !
What I'm trying to point out is we have Trump in t... (show quote)


The last truly military POTUS was Eisenhower and I believe it was he that warned the American people of the dangers a too powerful and corrupt military industrial complex and to not waste America's vast resources on today at the expensive of the children. He said those things on TV in his 1961 farewell address to the nation. Talk about understanding and foresight...!

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Feb 26, 2019 20:13:18   #
zillaorange
 
buffalo wrote:
The last truly military POTUS was Eisenhower and I believe it was he that warned the American people of the dangers a too powerful and corrupt military industrial complex and to not waste America's vast resources on today at the expensive of the children. He said those things on TV in his 1961 farewell address to the nation. Talk about understanding and foresight...!


On the money ! Sadly almost nobody listened !

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Feb 26, 2019 20:18:54   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Absolutely. Putin is sending a message. Trump had better listen. I don't anticipate military action but Putin wants something, for sure.


It is not the "military action" so much as it is just the "military spending" of taxpayer money to perpetuate the false threat scenario and keep enough of the sheople convinced there is a real and eminent danger if the US doesn't keep arming itself and its allies and it enemies.

Are you trying to get trumpy accused of collusion with putin?...of trumpy being his puppet? I think putin would like it if the US/Nato would quit encroaching on Russia's border and interfering in the elections of sovereign countries just because they are anti-US or pro-ruskie or even neutral.

Or they wil just have their puppet potus and enough puppet legislators to lie the US sheople into a war. bushie's Iraq lies come to mind....his oliness' own's Libya...Syria?

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Feb 26, 2019 20:18:56   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
buffalo wrote:
The last truly military POTUS was Eisenhower and I believe it was he that warned the American people of the dangers a too powerful and corrupt military industrial complex and to not waste America's vast resources on today at the expensive of the children. He said those things on TV in his 1961 farewell address to the nation. Talk about understanding and foresight...!



http://www.npr.org/2011/01/17/132942244/ikes-warning-of-military-expansion-50-years-later

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Feb 26, 2019 20:21:59   #
zillaorange
 
buffalo wrote:
It is not the "military action" so much as it is just the "military spending" of taxpayer money to perpetuate the false threat scenario and keep enough of the sheople convinced there is a real and eminent danger if the US doesn't keep arming itself and its allies and it enemies.

Are you trying to get trumpy accused of collusion with putin?...of trumpy being his puppet? I think putin would like it if the US/Nato would quit encroaching on Russia's border and interfering in the elections of sovereign countries just because they are anti-US or pro-ruskie or even neutral.

Or they wil just have their puppet potus and enough puppet legislators to lie the US sheople into a war. bushie's Iraq lies come to mind....his oliness' own's Libya...Syria?
It is not the "military action" so much ... (show quote)


hitlery is the 1 with Russian collusion !

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